8inch,
You probably don't know this, so I'm giving you constructive criticism. Don't quote Mitt Romney to conservatives like you're trying to prove some point because he said it. Mitt is pretty much hated by conservatives, and much of the republican party. There's a recall effort underway in Utah to get rid of him.
"The firings of multiple Inspectors General is unprecedented; doing so without good cause chills the independence essential to their purpose. It is a threat to accountable democracy and a fissure in the constitutional balance of power."
DNLB ..Trump was impeached..for ever
What laws were broken? Trump said just the other day that everyone knew what crimes were committed.
Still not seeing it.
@2muchfun, I would compare what has happened the last two years closer to what happened to Dr Martin Luther King. The FBI was used as a weapon to destroy Dr King , spreading stories he was a. Communist stories he was having affairs , on and on.
This really divided the country on a great man and kept a lot of the civil rights problems burning.
Well Obamagate is a term trying to compare what has happened to Donald Trump as to what Richard Nixon did. Remember presidents out of office never get tried.
But Sally Yates Attorney. general under Barrack Obama was in a meeting with Obama, Comey And Biden. Yates is an attorney and is very good at constitutional law . Outgoing President Obama 5 days before President Trump was inaugurated ordered the FBI go up and find something on Trump. Now Obama according to Sally Yates said he did not want to know about it. If you read her testimony she said she could not believe what she was hearing to use the highest law in the land as a political weapon. Biden first said he wasn’t there but meeting documents showed he was . Now he is saying he don’t remember . Obama will not face charges as I said outgoing presidents never do . But there could be some FBI people go to jail.
Did anyone explain what the Obamagate crimes are yet or did we miss it?
TBR , never accept anything I say as malice . I am not that. Way . I used to stand up and yell OJ is guilty . Yes I just knew OJ was guilty . A very good friend of mine a lawyer stopped me one time . He asked me were you on the jury ? Of course not , but I knew he was guilty .... Then my friend proceeded to tell me that OJ was tried and investigated by a court of law and when you start believing a court of your peers is no longer needed the country will fail.
As a child one of my first memories involving politics was my dear mother wringing her hands telling my father ( We cannot vote for Kennedy , he is Catholic . The pope will run our country. ) funny isn’t it.
One of the saddest stories in American history to me is the story of what the Democrat party did to Henry Wallace. .....Henry Wallace was VP to FDR . Kind of sounds like a Bernie story . FDR’s last term at the Democrat convention everything was going well . It would be FDR and Wallace. The first vote gave Wallace the nod for VP then the Democratic power brokers tabled everything and ordered a caucus in the morning. The next evening everyone voted for Truman for VP . . Now Truman truthfully was a very weak person and owed his soul to the rich. To this point he did nothing i his life. One thing that Truman did questionably has determined the future of mankind . That was to begin the nuclear race , it will never stop . We build bigger and better so you won’t use yours . Originally we were first now what is there 9 countries that could end the world . Henry Wallace went onto establish the department of Agriculture spent his life helping farmers .
I find it hysterical that the same group that thought Trump should be impeached for trying to "get dirt" on Joe Biden also thinks that when Joe Biden was part of the team using the FBI to "get dirt" on the incoming administration it was perfectly fine.
We are a nation of laws. If it's misuse of power to ask for an investigation for political purposes, how the fuck is it OK to actually conduct an investigation for political purposes?
AMANDA——>PHX...... I'd be leary of too in-depth investigation into his family and business associates. Mostly because they are not running for office. But to see if there are conflicts of interest. Surely.
Then I contend you don’t support equal vetting, Trump v Biden. Me? I don’t support either political party using Government resources or the National Security apparatus to vet, spy, dig dirt (choose your own pc term). And yes that makes me naive because it’s always been done and will continue to be done.
The next four years are going to be miserable for some of you.
The jurors and appointed judges are tainted.
"Trump is a crook. He has been a crook his entire adult life. Not only is he a crook, he consorts with crooks"
Hires crooked attorneys....
One is currently serving time.
The jury is tainted.
JoeNAmanda , I appreciate your questions and interest. I am going to tell you a story of a local hero . During early in the virus the president said Hydroxychloroquine might work . CNN came out and called Donald Trump a fool and idiot , Rachel Maddox called him a drug peddler Fauchi even said it wasn’t good.
Now a doctor in Texas City a community south of Houston . A. Very good person , went to Lamarque HS , Texas A&M did his medical at UT . Became a Christian at A&M went on several missions to Central America .
This doctor Robin Armstrong went into an old folks home that had 53 patients test positive with covid 19.
He administered the Hydroxy. and saved 53 patients life’s He explained one died not from the virus. He explained on the news he has been working with doctors all over the world now how to use the Hydroxy properly. He said when he did his Christian missions he used Hydroxy every day.
Now him and his wife are both doctors , when the story first broke they had to get security because of threatening phone calls and angry people . He said he was called Trumps lackey and worse . Dr Armstrong is African American Sunday Dr Armstrong will be a grand Marshall at The Darlington 400 NASCAR race. His story will be told , but all America needs to know this he is not a villain he is a true hero.
Joe would you have did this .....I don’t know if I would have . Every news media in the world on record has said
It was wrong . The current news media does not define who we are , it is truth honesty and our actions that define who we are .
TBR...... Well then get that fine ass busy to dig up some shit to impeach the prick. Lol. Cause nothing else got much traction yet.
Discraimer:the fine ass comment was for the pic of Mrs. TBR, no offence. ;-)
Trump is a crook. He has been a crook his entire adult life. Not only is he a crook, he consorts with crooks. His children are crooks. His in laws are crooks. His dad was a crook. His accountants are crooks. He surrounds himself with crooks.
He continues to be a crook in office.
He will continue to be a crook when he is thrown out of office.
PHX...... I'd be leary of too in-depth investigation into his family and business associates. Mostly because they are not running for office. But to see if there are conflicts of interest. Surely.
AMANDA---->PHX..... Aren't our security experts the most capable to do those types of investigations? Plus, we also have security clearance issues. Only certain people are able to view all documents and data that could have a security classification.
That was an accurate and robust explanation of the National Security apparatus.....but didn't answer the question.All things being equal (not spying just vetting), should Trump be allowed as the current sitting President to unleash the National Security apparatus to equal depth on Vice President Biden, his family and associates?
PHX..... Aren't our security experts the most capable to do those types of investigations? Plus, we also have security clearance issues. Only certain people are able to view all documents and data that could have a security classification.
AMANDA---->PHX.... I think they are taking a pretty good "run at him" (as you call it). Look at all the bullshit about him kissing kids on the head.
Who is they? You mean Trump the candidate? Potentially a few media companies? All things being equal (not spying, just vetting) shouldn't the National Security apparatus be involved?
PHX.... I think they are taking a pretty good "run at him" (as you call it). Look at all the bullshit about him kissing kids on the head. It used to be bad form for a political figure not to go out and do that. Remember seeing pics of political figures kissing babies?
As for vetting him more, of course I'm all for that. We need more transparency in all of government. Frankly, I'd love to see this accusation from this Reade lady be investigated. If she was indeed raped, file charges. If not, file charges against her for false accusations and then civil suits for defamation, slander and libel. You game?
AMANDA---->It's my opinion that they used more stringent methods with Trump because he was and still is (in my opinion) a relative newbie in politics
That's an accurate personal statement I presume. But if all vetting (not spying) is considered equal should not President Trump, the RNC, the National Security apparatus and sympathetic news media take a similar run at Vice President Biden? You know.....all things being equal. We assume he's been vetting, but isn't there at least a possibility we'd learn more? Again.....all vetting being equal
PHX..... It's my opinion that they used more stringent methods with Trump because he was and still is (in my opinion) a relative newbie in politics.
AMANDA---->Can you honestly say he hasn't been treated that way already?
No, no I can't. Why? Because the National Security apparatus has yet to run a three year investigation on the murky details about Biden's potential family ties to other countries. If all "vetting" is designed to be equal, shouldn't we as a country expect that?
