Ro…..”The courts never said an unborn fetus is a viable human.”
The courts do say that the fetus is a human. Viability is a bullshit argument. There are 10’s of thousands of adults that are not viable without external support. Should we be able to kill them too?
This whole thing is about people wanting to take no responsibility for their actions. They make abortion into the last form of contraception.
Ro,
Legally and financially, the male is not responsible until live birth. The father has have a paternity test or acknowledge being the father.
But a father should be responsible for medical bills prior. Why burden the mother and/or state for medical expenses?
Ro…..”when is the male responsible? ”
The male is almost always responsible. Courts award women child support and force men to pay for prenatal care all the time…..it doesn’t matter if we do or do not want the child.
Onehell…..”My opinion? It’s an stupid law. It’s codified so a Conservative (such as yourself) can claim that at any point after conception there is life.”
Thanks for your opinion.
The courts never said an unborn fetus is a viable human.
But it does bring in an interesting question that i asked before...when is the male responsible? at fertilization? Child support and all the other well being for this yet un named human the republicans are so concerned about?
But Mario was a roadie and background dancer for the Spinners, has taken law classes, watches Matlock and Perry Mason, and has Conservative Google on his phone.
And according to Guinness World Book, he owns the world's largest hamster wheel.
It makes no difference what an individual thinks.
It only matters what the law says.
@Mario, “I’m only asking what YOUR opinion on that law.”
My opinion? It’s an stupid law. It’s codified so a Conservative (such as yourself) can claim that at any point after conception there is life.
What are the chances of a woman getting pregnant, committing a heinous crime, being convicted of that crime, being sentenced to death for that crime, and the execution for that crime taking place in a nine month period?
@Mario, “Onehell….. My original question, which you have yet to answer, was why do you think we made it illegal to put to death a pregnant woman?”
I’ve proven this was not YOUR original question.
Excusing me for missing your change up five hours ago.
@Sum, “the title of this thread is Roe v Wade. Anything beyond that is a pivot”
Lmfao
You’re a special kind of idiot.
I’m conversing with someone about a topic they posted in this thread. But I’m pivoting?
@Mario, your words yesterday. “But you offered that point in regards to my original post. So answer the original question. Why does federal law prohibit a woman, sentenced to death, from being put to death while pregnant?”
@Mario, your original question. “Can anyone answer why 18 USC 3596 sec. b. states…….” (b) Pregnant Woman.— A sentence of death shall not be carried out upon a woman while she is pregnant.”
Keep moving goal posts.
Lol
"so now the brain must be fully developed to gain protection? Great. So we can kill people until they turn 25 and their frontal cortex is developed? Lmfao"
The Mario Hamster wheel is fully greased and spinning out of control.
Just admit it.
YOU DID NOT LIKE MY ANSWER TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.
Now you're Perry Mason after a few classes?
Have you ever held or seen a 1-2 month old fetus? Can you claim them on taxes?
I gave you reasons why they are diff. You suggest killing walking, talking human beings. Do you want to be taking seriously?
"So are we to assume that a certain group of humans (fetuses) are only granted protection if they are wanted? That isn’t the way we treat human life."
So, we wait til they're teens, jogging or unarmed men to shoot or choke them to death?
8….. so now the brain must be fully developed to gain protection? Great. So we can kill people until they turn 25 and their frontal cortex is developed? Lmfao
8…..”If a person physically or sexually assaults her, does he get multiple charges? When she commits a crime, does the officer charge multiple people?”
Seriously? The unborn child (fetus) has no intent in all of your situations. Thus they (your possible charges) are not valid in a court of law. That is the same standard as a person with deminished capacity.
"I’m only asking what YOUR opinion on that law."
So NOW you're asking opinions. When I answered it, you said nice try, wrong, and a sheep. You didn't like my answer.
Really? Comparing a 1-yr old to a 1-2 month fetus? A person needs a brain, developed nervous system, digestive system, respiratory system, and on and on.
8….”Is it an unborn child, kid, youth, young man/woman, fetus or baby that she is carrying?”
It is a “human”. Humans are not to be killed unless they are going to kill you. The law is clear that a developing baby, fetus, etc is a “human”, because it is protected by our murder laws. So are we to assume that a certain group of humans (fetuses) are only granted protection if they are wanted? That isn’t the way we treat human life.
Onehell…. I couldn’t make it any clearer. I even put the operative word in caps.
Why do YOU think it is illegal to put a pregnant woman to death? I’m only asking what YOUR opinion on that law.
8….”At what point is it human life? Lastly, can a 1-3 month fetus/baby be born an survive?”
What does that have to do with anything? A one year old, which everyone thinks is a person, can not survive on its own.
"Sec B is in reference to “pregnant women”….. what the fuck else are they pregnant with? A kangaroo? Yeah, I answered your stupid question. Now answer mine."
Is it an unborn child, kid, youth, young man/woman, fetus or baby that she is carrying?
They all have diff meanings and legal definitions.
Does this woman need a hotel room for 1 or 2? Does she have to pay for an extra ticket at the ballgame, play or airline counter? Is she eating and paying for 1 or 2 at the buffet restaurant?
If a person physically or sexually assaults her, does he get multiple charges? When she commits a crime, does the officer charge multiple people?
Mario,
You did not like my answer, as TBR stated. You came back with a "definition" that you made up. You stated it as the legal definition and called me "a sheep".
All that we ask is that you show us my answer was wrong. Where did you get your answer?
At what point is it human life?
Lastly, can a 1-3 month fetus/baby be born an survive?
Do you agree with the lady that is fighting her HOV ticket because she is 34 weeks pregnant, and Texas considers her fetus a person, so she had another occupant in her car?
"My original question, which you have yet to answer, was why do you think we made it illegal to put to death a pregnant woman?"
Your original question was answered.
You just didn't like the answer...
You will find in law school that you can't assume anything but what the law says.
The law gives no reason.
“No, I’m agreeing with the courts and treating a fetus as what it really is….an unborn person.”
Yesterday it was a, “developing baby”.
At what point is it developed into a baby?
Not all states have the same (for the lack of a better term) threshold for Fetal Homicide Laws.
There is a Federal Fetal Homicide Laws. But it is specific to Federal land and Federal employees.
This laws was codified 2004, well after Sec B of 18
