"Anybody with a bit of common since knows there have been tons of false positives. People listed as dying from covid as been so inflated its ridiculous."
If you don't believe in math, there is really nothing to talk about...
"Kamala Harris is nothing but a vote grabber for Biden."
LOL
And Pence was nothing but a vote grabber for Trump amongst evangelicals.
Onehelluvaguy
Start your list on who did it so much better. Anybody with a bit of common since knows there have been tons of false positives. People listed as dying from covid as been so inflated its ridiculous. Yes Nancy Polesi has been undermining along with the former speaker Paul Ryan.
How about that wonderful govenor you have? What a joke. We can keep going if you like
The only thing the CUM A LOT HARRISSER has is her COMMANDO under ware for THE SNIFFER to sniff from behind her.
Kamala Harris got into the game because she has something you do not:
Intelligence.
I spent part of my life growing up in Alabama. You take Hunstville out of Alabama and the place is in a fucking time warp. It makes the movie deliverance seem like it has modern people.
Doug Jones won because Alabama didn't want to get embarrassed by voting in a pedophile. Tommy got elected because somehow, screaming War Eagle was enough to get voters to think he is qualified. If Nick Saban was on the presidential ticket and Trump, Saban would win in Alabama by a landslide.
But it's ok. Alabama, the place that hates socialism. You live in one of the biggest socialist cities there are. Richard Shelby doled out how much to get Mercedes to open there? Yeah . . . corporate socialism.
“ Trump handled Covid19 as well as anybody could have.”
What alternative world do you live in? There are other countries that are leaps and bounds ahead of the US. How can you make that statement. Would you like me to list the world leaders who have handled the pandemic better?
“Your stinking ass Pelosi did everything she could to undermine his term. Bullshit impeachment process, fake Russian collusion, etc.”
Nancy Pelosi has been SOTH since 2018. How did she undermined the first two years of his term? The ones making the decisions were in his corner.
“What a shame his scum bag son will have access to The White House.”
As opposed to Trumps grown children?
Sappholovers
Kamala Harris is nothing but a vote grabber for Biden. Only selected because of her skin color.
Yes Alabama voted out Doug Jones, we don't care for his style of politics.
Trump handled Covid19 as well as anybody could have. Your stinking ass Pelosi did everything she could to undermine his term. Bullshit impeachment process, fake Russian collusion, etc.
Joe Biden is pathetic as Jimmy Carter. Will be nothing but a pushover and he is very stupid. What a shame his scum bag son will have access to The White House.
You (2outdoor) as well, when you say the election is not over and Trump has a chance.
I dont recall ever saying that.
Eroticamazon. I think Kamala Harris is a freaking joke. She got in the game by screwing around with Willie Brown. She was selected because of the color of her skin and not by being the best person which is pathetic. You can keep your California political ways there. Your governor is a joke. Middle class people moving out. Shutting down restaurants while he wines and dines with his friends. Don't get me started on the pedo Adam Schiff. You have the gall to bring up math. You can't tell me 12 million more people voted for Biden than Obama. The math numbers in Pennsylvania don't even come close. You don't like Trump on a personal level which is stupid so you vote for an idiot who has become very wealthy in politics. Get a clue clown
Flip, I am 100% TRUMP WON. THE SNIFFER Raley's 30 people, 15 Secret Service. TRUMP Raley's 30,000 loyal Americans.
Others are HFT, J_C555, funfor2houston, DNLB, NewandNaughgty, Andrew, and especially BonnieandClyde.
You (2outdoor) as well, when you say the election is not over and Trump has a chance.
And even Flip when he says there's 0.001% chance that Trump "can win".
The people have spoken, the state officials and courts have spoken.
It's just you numbskulls are detached from reality.
Rooting for Trump to pull off a coup doesn't sound very patriotic.
@Flip, so you do not believe in our Democratic process? You say fuck the Constitution, this person means more than our Republic?
This may be a stretch? But isn’t this Big Government telling us what is best for us? I thought all Republicans, Conservatives, and Libertarians despise the government telling us what to do?
@one, I'm with 2out, I'm 99.999% sure trump lost. I'd love it if he didn't and that slight hope is why I leave a small % open to it and wanna see it. If he can somehow pull off a miracle with a technically, I'd love it.
Ron, when the Chinese march these people into the ovens who are they going to call, GHOST BUSTERS?
"Trump lost. He knows it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Do i want him to quit? Hell no.”
So you know he lost. But you condone his disrespect for Democracy because he’s your guy?
You’re not a Conservative. You’re a cult member. You’re just trying to gain higher moral ground than the rest of the cult when you say you know he lost.
"How do you know that? You don't! You like the sound of the statement but you don't know. You can't know. I can't know. The doctors can't know."
I'm watching your IQ go down in real time.
2outdoors
To show that Trump mishandled the Covid crisis, all you need to do is to assemble a series of his quotes about Covid. You could do it like a 1st year law student making a case with evidence. Better yet, it would just take the skills of a freshman in high school doing an argumentative essay for a a composition for a writing class of history class. A student with a B average could do it.
The second essay or second proof could just be an account of all the people in the White House who got Covid including Trump, Christie, Giuliani, Melania, McEnany, Hope Hicks, etc etc.
For whatever reason, you are deeply invested in defending him. So be it. Facts and evidence are to no avail. It's like trying to convince a medieval Pope that the earth revolves around the sun and that we are descended from animals.
What political forums in this blog so easily reveal is that we overestimate how rational and reasonable we are.
Trump knows so well how little facts matter. He could commit a murder on 5th Avenue and get away with it with his supporters on the jury.
ALL you ass holes, the virus is and act of God from China. Test run, wait for the next much deadlier. Hunter will own the vaccine patent.
Others
I am sure, some economists will do a model that shows a range for the delta.
Will do..... think about that for a minute.. "will do" When its all over and the score has been tallied. All the brainiacs will announce a better strategy to combat a new problem.
To bad it's never that easy
"Trump lost. He knows it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Do i want him to quit? Hell no. Fight till the end. He won't win but damn don't be a quitter. (Would you have rooted for your favorite boxer if he threw in the towel after the first knockdown?)"
Everybody does not know.
That's why his people still receit his bullshit. Fox anchors keep receiting that bullshit.
HFT and others in this room are proof.
Would Herman Cain be alive if Trump had promoted wearing a mask? The answer is more than likely yes.
How do you know that? You don't! You like the sound of the statement but you don't know. You can't know. I can't know. The doctors can't know.
Your opinion. My opinion. I'm right. You're wrong. You're right. I'm wrong.
First person to become an advisor to the President wins.
So many interesting points to play with.
"Cost the taxpayers millions and had zero affect on anything but the history books."
That is very misleading. The US Treasury got more than it spent on that case. So while there was an expenditure, it made a profit.
"NOBODY, , knows what would or would not have changed any outcome. Did he do it right? Doubt it. Did he do it wrong? Doubt it."
There is some truth to that, but I think there is more false to it. Why do I say this? We have a lot of other countries to look at to see how they handled it. Some with stricter authoritarian control (China), some with lesser control (Sweden), and some whose citizens worked with the government (New Zealand.) So to say that we could not have impacted the outcome, is extremely misleading and disingenuous. Would Herman Cain be alive if Trump had promoted wearing a mask? The answer is more than likely yes.
Our response could be measured in what was the highest priority. Was it lives or money? Was it focusing in on the 'economy' or focusing in 'saving all lives.'
And yes, there was a VERY mean thing that Trump did that is not talked about. When this first hit, he let the states get into bidding wars for PPE. Think about that. Instead of a UNITED country, we had 50 different countries trying to buy PPE.
Instead of putting together a task force that was focused on getting the truth, as it was known at the time out, Trump said one thing in public and another in private. He treated the citizens as if they were (a) disposable, (b) idiots.
Do we know what the delta would be, exactly, as to the death count, the economic damage, if we had changed course? No, not exactly. I am sure, some economists will do a model that shows a range for the delta.
And then you left me with this . . .
" Trump lost. He knows it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Do i want him to quit? Hell no. Fight till the end. He won't win but damn don't be a quitter. (Would you have rooted for your favorite boxer if he threw in the towel after the first knockdown?)"
The first knockdown? WTF? The ref called the fight back in November. The judges called the fight back in November. All we are in is the part where it is recorded in the books. Trump is trying to change the ruling of the judges on the scorecard. Trump is trying to change the ruling of the ref. He ain't fighting. To do that, he'd have to go back after Biden. He is whining.
Trump is pathetic. Trump is a sore loser. Trump is fleecing people left and right. WHY? Because he doesn't want to pay for his campaign debt with HIS money. He wants to use his follower's money. A fool and his money are soon parted.
