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8inchcable.......you must not pay taxes or you claim so many dependents that you wouldn't see more bring home pay. As for me I was getting paid biweekly and saw an increase of $60 each paycheck after his plan kicked in. I also recieved a higher tax credit on my kids under 17. Evidently you don't know much about taxes.

Sappholovers.......wages were so stagnant in the Obama term. Many Americans have 401k as retirement so yes the stock market does matter for lots of people in the middle class. Black personal wealth increases by an average ok 6k under Trump. Not much of anything under Obama.

8inchcable.....you are an indoctrinated loud mouth. I see you waisted no time playing your race card either, sorry it has been declined. You watch to much Don Lemon and CNN. Take all your petty comments on Kamala Harris and shove them up your arse. If you paid attention you would know Sleepy Joe said "I will pick a woman of color as my VP". Way to go Joe. Let's no pick the best person but let's narrow it down to a specific color and gender. So then you want to play the race card. What a joke dude

JC55

Trump lowered taxes (and increased federal deficit to record level).

His tax cuts fit the rich over next 10 years could give Americans $8500 a month for next 8 months. I think that’s better for America

ISIS is still in Middle East

Please name the peace deals Trump did in Israel and Middle East. Carter did a more significant one.

How many soldiers has he brought back to USA? A few from Afghanistan?

He’s spent a lot on the military and the silly Space Force. The money could have been better used defending people from Covid and fentanyl abuse and forgiving or paying for student college loans.

Immigration has slowed down to USA in part because of bad economy right now. Mexico never paid for the wall. Much of the wall has not been built and never will. Parents and children are still separated at the border.

I missed what he did for Black colleges and anything he DHS that justifies the claim that he has done more for Black people than any president except for probably Lincoln. 89% of African American population voted against him.

Again, you are wrong about Trump giving us he best economy in history. I’m sure that under Trump the rich have gotten richer. An increase in stock market does not do much to help the majority of Americans who do not own stocks. The GDP in quarters under Trump did about as well as economy did under Obama.

It was great to see the reduction unemployed for a time. But then this past year has changed that and we have as many unemployed since the Depression era. CoVid hurt the economy of course but Trump badly mismanaged COVId as can be seen by comparing number of cases abs deaths to other countries that have done much better in keep Covid rates much lower than in USA

Trump’s approval rate is around 40-45%, which is quite low.

Eroticamazon.....you accuse me of generalizing yet you generalize my state and its people. What a hypocrite. I have guns blazing and you have man boobs popping. Lol
You continue to vent your personal problems in Alabama. Let it go brother. Lol

"Trump lowered federal income tax."

Not true. He lowered taxes for the wealthy and corporations. Not the avg middle class.

"Trump put together peace deals with Israel and many Middle Eastern countries"

Explain how. Palestine was not included. Palestine and Israel still do not get along.
Jared didn't do jack shit for that region and their relationships.

"Trump put a clamp on illegal immigrants entering"

You mean with that wall that he promised but never finished? He only replaced pre-existing fences and walls with another wall. Millions of "illegals" still exist in every state.

"Trump boosted our military from Obama abandonment"

How did he boost them in one sentence, and bring them home in another sentence?
The military has been getting funds since Reagan as well as annual pay raises (with exception of Bush).

"Trump boosted federal dollars to Black colleges"

He gave them the same money that is given to other state colleges and universities?

"Trump brought on prison Reform"

Wrongfully convicted and imprisoned people are still locked up.
Yes, Kim K. and others did help get some sentences commuted.
And Trump pardoned his Felonious Pals.

"Trump eliminated ISIS to nothing"

Really? Is that what he told you? Any proof?
What's the name of the current terrorists running the areas where ISIS was/is?

"Trump has been bringing soldiers home from endless wars"

But you said he "boosted" the military. Despite what Trump said, our military was NOT out of bullets. Troops were yanked from hot spots and allowed Russians and other groups to take a stronghold. US military leaders did not approve of the sudden removal of troops.

"Trump took our economy to the best ever"

You can thank Obama for the economy that was handed to Trump.
Then he ruined it......

Aww JC used a word he has not ever done himself: study.

But see . . .

He is coming around.

He came in with guns blazing about how what happens on 3 blocks in San Francisco is the same in the 164k sq miles of the state. He is learning that generalizations are stupid.

I pointed out all the stereotypes of Alabama as well as all the facts about Alabama and he got upset. For all I know, Vance could be a shithole or Vance could be paradise. However, to the masses, it is not paradise. To you, and this is all that matters, it may be. But don't think the US wants to be like Vance. I live in a state that is more than 10% of the US population. Our state had more Trump voters than any other state. Think about that. Yet, somehow, someway, we are all the same.

This state is what caused the pet food company to stop dumping shit into Lake Guntersville. Our state is the one that is trying hard to get your state to stop being such polluters. Your state is 5th in the country for the amount of waste in the air and water. Just think . . . when our state pushed to have the EPA created to reduce pollution, Alabama got cleaner. And again . . . Sand mountain and up is gorgeous. Once Ronnie got involved, he took the teeth out of the EPA and you guys went from the high 20s in pollution to where you are today. Is this something that you are proud of?

"Trump got a vaccine for Covid19 in less than a year"

So, the guy that said it's a hoax and just the flu to the public....
Who knew how deadly it was and didn't want to inform the public.....

What exactly did he "Do" to create a vaccine?

Most countries in the world were working to develop vaccines.

What did Trump do?

HFT,

How did all those oral arguments and legal petitions do in the courts? Trump’s side has lost 59 out of 60.

A US Judge just recently wrote a decision that concluded with the possibilities of filing a complaint or grievance about the filing of the case since it was so silly and such a waste of the court’s time to consider it.

Humor me. I need a way to measure your capacity for delusion and bamboozlement.

What is your view of the percentage chance that Congress or a court will overturn the electoral college 306-232 Trump defeat and that Trump will be president of the USA in January 21, 2021 by hook or by crook?

My judgment: 0% chance for Trump.

Let’s bet: If Trump loses, you have to take a 30 day break from posting in the Forum and your first post after 30 days will be something of a mea culpa that explains why you were so deluded.

If Trump wins, I’ll never post in this forum again

I hope the Supreme Court members were watching the TRUMP rally in Georgia tonight. They would get a full view of the frauds in 7 States. It's the best oral arguments possible. Thousands of votes to back it up. Supreme Court, let see some decisions A S A P.

JC555,

Given that Trump has given us false facts and misinformation about 26,000 times in his presidency according to fact checkers, I would not judge Trump’s accomplishments, including about the economy, by his own words.

Google the Washington Post essay about Trump’s claim that he has given us the best economy in US history, and you will see that by a set of various measures for measuring the economy, Trump is giving us false history and false claims.

Your own capacity for being a sucker to Trump is what your claim about Trump on the economy reveals to me.

Facts don’t count in Trump’s world. He’s a con.

It’s so easy to fact check him about his claims to have given us the best economy in USA history.

Do you believe too that he never had sex with Stormy Daniels?

Clue for JC555: You’ve been bamboozled

JC555,

I suggest you compare your own rating of Carter with various rankings of presidents done by historians and scholars and different organizations.

I just reviewed Agee of these rankings and Jimmy Carter is ranked between 25-27 out of 44 or 45.

Siena College does such a ranking, drawing upon experts in the field of politics and history.

In their 2018 ranking, they had Jimmy
Carter ranked #27 and Trump ranked #42

I predict that in the next ratings by Siena, Trump will go down further and become one of the two or three worst presidents in our history.

Of course feel free to refuse to check and balance your opinions by these other rankings. Why challenge your own opinion of Carter by seeing what historians and scholars say.

Of course, historians tend not to judge presidents harshly for promoting integration and opposing anti-black racism, which is part of the legacy of Carter as Governor of Georgia and President of the USA.

Who do you think was the better Governor of Georgia: Carter or Lester Maddox?

Woo hoo......I never threatened you with violence and just said you're a pussy who talks shit online. Sorry your experience here was bad, no need to blame the state on your personal problems and failure. Man boob. Lol
You sure study things you seem to hate, that's kinda weird. Maybe you should seek some help

Sappholovers.....Jimmy Carter was the worst President ever. He is a fraud. I watched a program on the secret service and those agents said he was the worst to deal with. Very rude and arrogant. Said he acted totally different away from the crowds. What a waisted 4 years off the US. Ronald Reagan definitely lifted us from the idiot

Aww how cute . . .

We go from facts about Alabama to insults about me.

Woo hoo.

I sure see that Alabama education at work.

I'd still say the same shit to your face. If you want to threaten me with violence, hey, that's up to you.

But as far as daddy's go - how is that incest going? I mean, you do live in that state.

Tbrmskss.......Trump lowered federal income tax. Trump put together peace deals with Israel and many Middle Eastern countries, Trump put a clamp on illegal immigrants entering, Trump boosted our military from Obama abandonment, Trump boosted federal dollars to Black colleges, Trump brought on prison Reform, Trump eliminated ISIS to nothing, Trump has been bringing soldiers home from endless wars, Trump took our economy to the best ever, Trump got a vaccine for Covid19 in less than a year. Shall I keep going? You sure are fucking stupid

Eroticamazon.....sorry but sometimes life pulls you away from things like dealing with a pos like yourself. Looking at your profile pic in your oldman shirt I see you could use a bra to hold up those saggy man titties. I also am positive you would not say those things to my face. You sure do seem to have a hate for Alabama. Maybe your experience here was a product of a shitty upbringing. Maybe you have some daddy issues. For someone who doesn't believe in God like yourself, you sure do bring him up a lot and mock him. You talk down on Alabama yet live in a state that supports drugs, pedro's, high taxes, and you want illegal immigrants so you can use to work your farms and orchards. Basically you support modern day slavery. What a scumbag. You can't even use a straw for a drink yet you allow human shit on the sidewalks of San Francisco. Like I said your a fucking nasty ass. Get yourself in a gym and do something with them man boobs. No wonder your wife wants to swing. Lol

"Oh and one other thing. They care that he is hurting the people that they want hurt."

^^^^^^^^^^

This above all...

"It intrigued me too that no Trump supporters responded to my simple question for them to list their top 3 Trump accomplishments."

LOL

You continue to expect something from Trump supporters that they are incapable of doing. Like logical thought.

Trump supporters don't care about accomplishments.

All they care about is that he owns the libs, however they define that.

Oh and one other thing. They care that he is hurting the people that they want hurt.

2muchFun,

In the documentary, Carter explained that Willie Nelson did a cover story. He says he smoked out at the White House with some staff person. He didn’t identify the person as Carter’s son. jimmy had a good smile about that story. His son also appears to have memorized much of Dylan’s lyrics.

Carter says that when he talked to Dylan, Bob took him off to the side outside and asked Jimmy about his relationship to God or Jesus and religion. I guess Dylan was in his religious phase when that happened.

It’s beautiful to see how music has acted as a bridge across cultures and peoples.

Maybe we need a music blog.

I love Robert Altman’s “Nashville” for its weaving together of music and politics.

sn1987,

It intrigued me too that no Trump supporters responded to my simple question for them to list their top 3 Trump accomplishments.

This question is even easier to answer than to ask them to explain three reasons why they support Trump.

I guess it’s a challenge for them to put their thoughts about their support for Trump into words.

I'm sure you heard Willie Nelson smoked some weed on the roof of the White House with Carter's son.

1977 was a great year.

2muchFun,

I watched a documentary last night on CNN about Jimmy Carter and Rock N Roll.

He had the support of Allman Brothers and a friendship with Willy Nelson abd was a big fan of Bob Dylan, who made some visits to him.

It also did sone stuff on gospel music and Carter. But it seems he was not in connection with Blues musicians.

He’s become our best ex-president. I think he gets damned or dismissed too much for his presidency. He did bring a change to the governors mansion, previously inhabited by Lester Maddox.

He put up portrait of MLK Jr in that mansion.

It’s fascinating to see changes in politics in Georgia from 1960s to now abs just from 2016 to now.

Let’s see what happens tomorrow. I’m warily hopeful about the two debate elections.

Ronnie Van Zandt and most of the rest of Lynyrd Skynyrd were from Florida.

But Sweet Home Florida didn't sound right.

"I can't figure out what it is conservatives are trying to conserve."

Power