No smokers on profile

That's awesome. Welcome to the forums.

Btw, we prefer not to play with smokers, but we still call it "Swinging" too. Guess if we were more creative we'd come up with a new name for it, but "Oh well".

We both smoke and if you Don't oh well. we are still here for the Sex with other's thing, Think it's called Swinging ?

"We find it both amusing and mildly annoying to see profiles in which members go out of their way to say how "open minded" they are and "more concerned with making connections than hookups" and then make it a point to say No Smokers We find the irony and hypocrisy of those two statements to be pretty strong."
Yeah, I know this is a 200+ day old post, but I'm throwing my 2 cents in on this anyway because the OP clearly doesn't know the definitions of hypocrisy or irony.

Being open minded doesn't mean that you forego any and every personal boundary or preference. For example: I'm an extremely open minded guy but I have no interest in playing with people who are into scat. Good on you if that's your thing. There's no judgement from me. But I don't even like it when my finger breaks through the TP so I'm 100% positive that I don't want someone taking a shit on my chest.

I don't smoke anymore, but I did and I never had a problem with people not wanting to play with me/us because of our habit. I knew that it left an unpleasant scent/taste in my mouth and clothes and skin. And now that I've been smoke free for 2.5 years, I have an even better understanding of why many non-smokers chose not to play with smokers. That shit is disgusting. I can handle being around smokers just fine for the most part, but the longer I go without smoking, the more off putting I find the smell to be when I'm getting up close and personal with someone.

T

what Kitten said.

We used to have our profile set to smokers ok. Before we stopped actively seeking people out on here we changed it along the way to some wordy thing about being a smoker isn't a deal breaker but if you smell and taste like a smoke stack we will pass. It honestly doesn't bother Trooper nearly as bad to smell it or taste it on a woman as it does me, and we added it mostly because of me. I got tired of having trouble breathing the next day or having to use my inhaler on the way home, plus it is just nasty to taste like I'm sucking on an ashtray instead of a cock. There are those that I know are smokers, but since I couldn't smell it all over them or taste it I was fine.

That why we meet for drinks not dinner. Smokers have brushed their teeth and taken a breath mint before we meet No full tummys or the smell of food on the breath.

there is a big difference between being "open-minded" and having preferences. i don't give a rats ass if you want to smoke like a chimney, you do what you want (open-minded), but i don't have to want to breath in or taste your smoke (preferences)

I understand your point, but I don’t like to kiss smokers. I’m sorry if that’s not open minded, but I don’t like it. I also don’t want to kiss someone who ate a garlicky meal. :). I bet no one would want to kiss me if I had either!

LOL thats funny

Once a girlfriend asked if I smoked after sex........don’t know I never looked.

Use vape if you think you are sliding. Nicotine is harmless its the rest of the stuff in the burring of leaf that hurts you.

Absolutely Allen. Totally agree with you on that one.

Fokkers, just stay on target for the sake of each other. Each one of you depend on the other to stay focused of your goal.

~Allen

As I stated on Tramp’s Laws of LS thread (in Getting Started), the most judgemental people I have met are the non judgmental folks in the LS.
I think when we say that we are non-judgmental invthe LS, what it really means we don’t judge others on their sexual choices, everything else is opened to be judged.

Mrs F has said that I can keep smoking, she would understand. I choose to stop. It’s not the first time I went cold turkey and I have gone a long time. I returned because she still smoked and something would trigger me and I would grab one of hers. With both of us not smoking I hope we can keep each other from being triggered.

Re: quitting with someone

It can work but in my case with a failed attempt, the other person caved and then was like, "Ha ha. I can have a cig and you can't".

Even if that doesn't happen you need to decide that YOU really want to quit. My wife smoked well after I quit and as much as I wanted her to quit, she really didnt want to. Trying to push someone only makes it worse. She quit in her own time and still struggles with it.

Good work, Fokkers. Keep it up!

Va: Thanks, it was a long road and with Mrs 888 still taking a random occasional puff. It still bothers me some to be around it and it ranges from stink to a light craving. I have seen several pacts that succeed over the years and you are correct in a lot of those failing, yet being unprepared and not having a definite plan.

~Allen

I don't understand your confusion. Being open minded doesn't mean going out with someone who you are not attracted to. We are not attracted to the smells, we are not attracted to constant breaks in conversation and actions, and we are not attracted to the places where smokers generally hang out (aka smoker friendly places). This lifestyle is all about ONLY what you are attracted to. No point in wasting time or energy on a temporary relationship with someone you are not attracted to. When the wife and I play with others, they have to meet all the criteria because they are extra curricular.

I'm glad you succeeded. I've never personally seen one of those "we're quitting together" pacts work out.

For us its all about having fun, if someone smokes in their personal life but is a really fun fuck its a really fun fuck.

I quit smoking tobaccos, along side with someone else over 8 years ago.

~Allen

Interesting take on the subject. One that we hadn't really thought of. We both like the smell and taste of the opposite sex, love kissing as well. Our experience is- some of that pleasure is lost with smokers. They might be great people with awesome personalities- maybe even gracias enough to vape or find another means of nicotine for the evening but the taste and smell doesn't go away that fast.
I don't care for chocolate ice cream. I don't think that makes me closed minded or judgmental. I just choose a different flavor and enjoy my goodies.

I've never smoked, but I've seen a lot of people try to quit. Some succeed, some don't.

From my anecdotal experience I conclude that the worst way to quit is to do it with anyone else, or in any way tie it to someone else's success.

Good luck.

I've never smoked, but I've seen a lot of people try to quit. Some succeed, some don't.

From my anecdotal experience I conclude that the worst way to quit is to do it with anyone else, or in any way tie it to someone else's success.

Good luck.

I quit about 18 years ago, nd I did the same thing mayhem did.

Quit smoking when I drove, after meals, etc. one at a time, and within a couple of months I was only smoking one or two cigs a day.

I missed it for a while, but now I don't even think of it.

Mrs. T still smokes, but she tries every year...