Welcome to another episode of 'That Other Lifestyle Podcast,' where host Jason dives into an important topic—safety and security in the lifestyle. This episode is designed for adults engaging in ethical non-monogamy, focusing on personal, relationship, and mental safety. Jason shares valuable insights and advice, breaking down essential safety measures, both physical and mental, for newcomers and seasoned lifestylers alike.
Whether you are exploring adult relationships for the first time or an experienced participant, this episode guides you through managing risks smartly while enjoying the fun this lifestyle has to offer. By recognizing red flags, practicing situational awareness, and maintaining open communication, you can enhance your experiences and keep them secure. Join us as Jason offers practical tips and shares stories that emphasize the importance of maintaining safety, ensuring your lifestyle experiences remain enjoyable and fulfilling.
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Speaker1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are, I hope you have blue skies. Welcome to that other lifestyle podcast. I am your host, Jason. Leave Vanilla behind as we talk about safety and security in the lifestyle. This podcast is for adults only. We'll be diving into adult and sexual topics with lots of colorful language, so it is not safe for work. If you are under 18, this is not the place for you. Leave. This show is all about exploring the lifestyle and ethical non-monogamy and is open to everyone, no matter your background, gender identity, expression, or your personal truth. While I do my best to use inclusive language, you might hear terms like husband, wife, or partner for simplicity's sake. This show is for everyone, lifestyle, Vanilla or just the curious. Hey, you want to connect with me? Send me an email or if, you know, wherever you're listening to this, hit subscribe or follow, like, do all that good stuff for me. If you want to connect with me, send me an email to host at thatotherlifestyle.com or you can just go to my website, thatotherlifestyle.com. Everyone is welcome here. Everyone is welcome on the show and in this community because the lifestyle is so much more than you think. I want to talk about safety and security in the lifestyle. How do you manage your personal safety, your spouse's safety, your relationship's safety? Not just talking about physically, mentally and socially too. This is going to be a heavy topic, but I am happy to say that it was not inspired by an event that happened. I realized over the weekend I've sprinkled safety advice throughout all my past episodes, and I figured it would be good, especially for newbies, to condense all this information into one place, one episode. Granted, this does not cover every single thing about safety and security, but it's a good start. The lifestyle is fun. There is a saying I heard growing up that trouble always starts with fun. That quote is attributed to an advice column according to the internet. I think it's a way for super uptight people to soothe their miserable souls by warning people away from having fun. It conjures up images of social gatherings feeling like everyone is waiting at a doctor's office. No one talks or mingles for fear of that pesky fun goblin showing up. Does trouble always follow fun? Hell no. Yes, it is possible to have a really fun, memorable night of nudity, massages, and shenanigans without trouble popping up the next day. This episode, please do not think it is a condemnation of the lifestyle. I would never do that. I will be honest with you though about factors and steps you need to take to stay safe out there because it is a wild world. I ain't here to scare anyone. I want to empower you to have more fun by feeling more secure in the moment and with yourself. Because let's be honest, this is the moment where I pull out a folding chair, put my leg up to really just rap with everyone, you know? And if you want to have fun and avoid trouble, hey y'all, it's time to get into some real talk. The lifestyle can be risky. We do actions to mitigate the risk, which I want to share today. And to address the doom and gloom crowd out there right now, no, I have never heard of an incident going so sideways that it caused physical or mental harm to anyone. Never heard of the cops getting involved. We are adults who handle our business appropriately. I have personally thrown house parties and never had an incident. Just get that out of the way at the top. Anyway, Anyway, the life of the life of the world.
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Just get that out of the way at the top. Anyway, the lifestyle, it can be risky. Living is risky though. You want some existential dread right now? Right now, above your head in the vastness of space are asteroids floating happily along in the void. 200 million years ago, two of those rocks collided and now one of them could be on a collision course with your house right now. You would have no idea and no way to mitigate the risk at the fuck all. This is an example of fuck me can't do anything about that category of risk. The lifestyle is not in that category. The lifestyle is in the be smart, be safe, be cautious category. Do not take needless or stupid risk in the lifestyle. This advice runs the gamut from not using protection to popping out your titties in a water park surrounded by families. And popping out titties, that is a good segue. I have seen it where we are out with a big group of people. One person drinks a handful too many white claws and decides that this bar where I had all these nice vanilla people need to see her titties. This is colossally stupid. Now everyone in the bar is staring at those titties wondering who this woman is and more importantly who is this woman with. Compound that with her yelling out I'm a swinger and looking to fuck somebody's husband. Now we got the whole bar, the whole bar got the memo, what the fuck is going on? This is stupid. This is stupidity that is now affecting other people. The lady from my story is taking a needless, pointless risk with herself that is impacting other people around her because her husband didn't know when to cut her ass off. Extreme example right there. I'll give you a more subtle example. A couple starts chatting with another couple online. Without verifying pictures or who they are, these four people agree to meet in a hotel room. This is a stupid risk. It's not as public, but it has much more potential to go sideways. People in the lifestyle are the most genuine best humans I have ever met. Does not mean all of them are. Does not mean they are all your besties from the go. First point to note, assume everyone is a stranger until they are a friend. I don't know how you personally measure any of that sentence, but I want to know. I want to know some shit before we agree to meet in private or even consider having relations with other people. My wife put it best. She came in here while I was writing this episode. She said, use Tinder date rules. We are meeting in public the first time we hang out. We are verifying personal details. Does this couple look like they're pictures? Is the conversation going well? Any disturbing comments? We don't go into dates with any sense of obligation on our souls that this interaction is going to progress to sex. For us, we want to hang out a couple of times before we even consider physical relations. Why? So we have plenty of time to let the crazy come out. Look, if the other couple is hiding their personal crazy, they can't keep that mask up forever. It's going to crack. And with repeated interactions, it's a lot harder to maintain that mask. And to be fair, what do I mean by crazy? There are generally agreed upon criteria and then specifics we look for, like weird vibes. You can't define this. I can't define this in any useful way, but you know it when you see it and you feel it. Maybe the other couple insults each other like not in a playful way. Maybe the husband is too forward. Maybe the wife wants to take the dynamic in a direction you are not comfortable with. Maybe the couple gets into a straight up fight during a group chat. We had that happen. What else? I did a whole episode on red flags. Go listen to that one. To me, the biggest sign of crazy is they grossly misrepresent who they are. Pictures don't match, bad vibes, bad interaction, being pushy, that sort of thing. And I say use Tinder date rules, but here's a weird nuance to this. If a couple has been married for 20 years, they completely missed online dating. It was not a consideration at any point in the past 20 years. So they may not know how fucking weird online dating can get. And a lot of times, yeah, that's what we're doing, online dating. Yes, we can meet people at parties or events, which is my preferred method of meeting people now. But when you start out, though, for newbies, you don't know about parties or clubs or events. Logically, you will start your lifestyle journey on a website, scrolling through profiles. Some sites out there, they do an excellent job of weeding out fakes and some sites don't. Some sites have a person dedicated to hunting down scammers and fakes, like that is their full-time job. I know this. Other sites, they don't give two flaming shits. As long as a person pays their money, they are in. The weirdest scam I got via an adult dating site was a person they reached out to me to support their GoFundMe, and I think it was for a funeral, like something really fucked up to be trolling around a dating site asking for help. I reported them and you should too. Scammy profiles and trolls and fakes just report their asses. In general, assume everyone is a stranger until they are a friend. First date, we always meet in public. Even if they are friends of friends or they seem really cool in text messages, a coffee date is way cheaper than bail money. People may offer meeting for the first time at their homes. I don't like this. The idea of going into their space, not neutral territory until I am completely comfortable with these people? Nope, don't like that. Save going to people's houses for like the third or the fourth date. Any public space works too. Could even be a sex club or a house party where there's lots of other people around. Other basic considerations, keep your phone charged, know your exits, park smart, have code phrases, get out of bad situations, look for flags. Do not dismiss red flags as just human nature. If someone makes you or your spouse uncomfortable in any way, you got to notice that. You need to talk about that. And you know, granted, it could be the other person is very socially inept, or they could be fucking crazy. One other piece of advice, chat groups and tribes and social circles exist. Yes, however they're organized, be it through messenger apps or social media. Never assume that someone who is in the same group as you is safe, I said that in air quotes, or that by their participation in this group, there is a free ticket to bypass your personal safety protocols. Still ask for testing results. Still follow Tinder rules. Vet these people and do not make assumptions. There is no transitive property in the lifestyle. 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Physical safety and security. My wife is the most precious person to me. Light of my life, the other half of my soul, and I will never knowingly put her into a dangerous situation. And that is the attitude everyone in the lifestyle should have. We should protect our spouses as best we can at all times. This includes like if we're out in a vanilla space like a nightclub, I am hovering. She could go dance and mingle and do whatever she wants, but I'm watching. Not so much what she's doing, but the other people around her. I'm watching for vanilla guys coming around. That's the physical safety piece. Knowing where your spouse is, what they're doing, who is around. Not trying to be doom and gloom here. Just basic safety procedures. The most valuable asset you have is your spidey sense. Nerd lore diving into that Spider-Man. The comic book hero shoots webs, red costume. He has a spidey sense. He intuitively knows when danger is coming or he's under attack. It gives him a split second to react to trouble and in the comics is represented by little lightning bolts shooting out of his head. Everyone has this though. We all have intuition in like spidey sense that a situation or a person or a date or a couple is not safe. Listen to your fucking intuition. The world has a nasty way of making us question our natural intuition or write it off or just logic it away. No. Listen to the little voice in your stomach or your head or your heart, wherever that voice is located. Listen to it, please. Let's say you want to ride an elevator. You press the button and the door opens. Inside the elevator, four open buckets of gasoline and a dude randomly flicking a lighter. Are you going to say, oh, this is fine, and get on that elevator? No. Your brain assesses the situation, realizes this is the bad fucking idea, and you wait for the next one. Another example I'll tell you. The worst job I ever had. In college, I worked for a company for a very short time that changed air filters and air conditioners. That sounds all right, huh? Yeah, you've changed air filters. It wasn't because this is an industrial kind of thing, industrial air conditioners. Some of the buildings we had to go into, like high school gyms, those fucking air condition units are attached to the ceiling 30 feet straight up. To access the unit, you have to climb straight up a rickety ladder, crawl out on a beam about 20 feet, then climb inside the air conditioner. Then, to get down, do all of that in reverse. My boss told me, go up the ladder. I asked for a safety harness. Apparently, safety harnesses and following government safety regulations made me less of a man, which he loudly told me. Then I loudly told him no, and that was the last day working for that rat bastard. My spidey sense said this was a dumb, stupid idea to go do this, and I probably should not do it. Intuition keeps us safe. Yes, it may limit our fun. I know times in my life where my intuition has said, don't, don't go there. Just go home. Turns out nothing happened. Everyone had a blast and I just went home. I still can't shake the feeling though, that I'm happy that I listened to my gut. Swinging all this back to swinging. Haha. Listen to your gut and situations. Do not go into private residences or hotel rooms with people that you do not know or trust. Yeah, this sounds like very basic advice, but I'm willing to bet every experienced lifestyle person out there has a story where shit went sideways because they went into a hotel room with people they did not know. and you want to know when you are your most vulnerable when you are butt naked with a hard-on in a hotel room with another couple, your wife is over there naked, they're naked, and the other husband doesn't seem to want to listen to your stern guidance on not choking my wife, dude. For clarity, this hasn't happened to me, but I can see this happening. Or maybe if the other husband can't get his dick hard. I need to get my sexism hat real quick. After much input from the ladies I know, women know that men can be dangerous. Yes, other women can be dangerous too. We can all be fucking dangerous, but stick with me here. Men can get dangerous when they are upset or angry. And what can piss off a dude? If his dick is not working. This ain't the only trigger out there. It's just a simple example. Stick with me. So to you, Mr. Lifestyle Dude listening to this, let me put this to you. You're in a hotel room. You and your wife are naked and vulnerable, and this other motherfucker, this other husband, flips out, yelling and screaming and just unable to control his emotions. What do you do? Answer, get the fuck out of there. If someone wants to display rage or anger or bad vibes in the lifestyle, time to bounce. Am I being extreme? A little bit, but not by much. It's all about situational awareness. Be aware of your surroundings. Be aware of exits. Have a plan in your head of what you will do. And this is for the wife and the husband and everybody in the relationship. Y'all listen to me. Your physical safety is important. Don't take chances. Don't take risks. Remember, just because you want to fuck someone does not mean that person is safe. Your wanting does not override safety. And again, every time I say safe and crazy, I put in air quotes here. For the most part, people in the lifestyle are calm and rational human beings. The weird ones, the creepers, the rage-filled jackasses, they tend to wash themselves out of this pretty quick because nobody wants to deal with that bullshit. And under the banner of physical safety is testing. I talk about testing all the time because it is so important. The testing for STIs is one of the methods that we use to keep our physical person safe from infections and our spouse. I recommend stdhero.com. Y'all know that. My promo code is TOL15 for 15% off your order. Testing should be part of your standard operating procedure by now if you've been listening to me for a while, even for you newbies. This is a reminder. Go get tested this week. You'll probably do. STDHero.com. To answer a random question that popped into my head right now. Okay, Jason, you say all this is so dangerous. How can I protect myself? Do I need to carry mace or something? No. The easy answer, bail. Get the fuck out of the situation as fast and as calmly as possible. Don't try to calm anybody down. Don't try to fight them if it comes to that. Look, you can't fight crazy. Run, leave, get your stuff, and go. Leave your stuff behind if you need to. It's fine. There is nothing to be gained by going through that with another person. And another thing, all right, know your limits. Specifically talking about alcohol here, though this could apply to any illicit substance, know your limits. Do not drink to excess if you plan on doing the horizontal cardio with another couple. And more importantly, know your spouse's limits. Do not be afraid to cut your spouse off. Do not be afraid to remove them from a situation if they are drunk or fucked up. Going back to me gushing over my wife, my wife is the most important person to me on this planet. I'm going to look out for her. I'm going to watch how much she drinks. And if I think she has had enough, I will step in. And I know she would do the same thing for me. We have done this actually for each other many times. Practical advice for parties and events. Just take turns. If you're worried about this, take turns. You know, the next party you go to, know that your spouse is allowed to get drunk and you have to stay sober. And then the party after that, switch. Because if you're both drunk, that's when bad decisions happen. One person stays sober means there is at least one responsible person on your team and listening to their spidey sense. Plus, it gives me reassurance that yeah, if I want to indulge, I know there's a person watching out for me. Yes, other people at the party will also step in if needed. My spouse though, she knows when it's time to call it a night and I listen to her. No arguing, just a simple womp womp, okay, and we leave. That means me and my wife, we've worked this out already. We have discussed all of this ahead of time and we trust each other that maintaining our physical safety with maintaining our physical safety with our mental safety. Our mental safety is set and locked down because we communicate. We walk through situations. We talk through situations. Your mental health, and I will rebrand it to mental safety here so that it fits with the theme, takes time and it takes a team. It takes work. The lifestyle can be stressful. I have seen this lifestyle eat people. I've seen people become consumed by the lifestyle until the whole world closes in around them and all they can see is the next sex conquest new text messages. I have warned before that the lifestyle can be addictive. So if you're worried about this, I recommend unplugging. Take time off from dating and texting and websites. Reconnect with your spouse. As humans, we only have so much mental bandwidth and if you're dedicating 100% of that bandwidth bandwidth to other people your marriage is going to suffer stress on a marriage is the exact opposite of why we do this this is not about fulfillment but enhancement expansion not replacement keep your marriage at the center of you and your partner's lifestyle experience together as one. Not to say that all of this is a direct threat to your mental well-being, but it could be there is a toxic nature to the lifestyle. What? Yeah, for shame on me for phrasing it like that. I mean, toxic in the same way that too much water can be toxic, too much sunshine, too much of anything can become toxic if it overwhelms the body or mind in this case. Moderation. Keep your participation in the lifestyle in moderation. Whatever that looks like for a couple or a single person, find the balance. While all this could be toxic, I want to call it specifically, there are toxic people out there that are just straight up poison. There are few kinds of people, types of toxic people to keep on the lookout for. There's couples who are just not a right fit for the lifestyle. They might be doing this to fix their marriage or make amends for past infidelities, and they're treating other couples as the medicine that their marriage needs. And this is wrong. Swinging will not fix your marriage. Therapy will. Swinging and therapy are not the same thing. Another kind of toxic couple is the dominators. Those who want to dominate you as a person and dominate your experience in this. They want to control who you interact with, who you have sex with, or they want to limit your ability to enjoy the lifestyle fully. Look, we are free to interact with whomever we want. Yeah, there may be couples that you prefer over other couples. That's normal. There are couples you will make genuine friendships with. That is normal. No one, though, should try to limit who you interact with. True friends and the lifestyle celebrate all of your adventures with you. They cheer you on. Dominators don't. Dominators, it gets so bad you can't even share your adventures with them without a lecture or controlling behavior. Stay the fuck away from them. Stay away from any couple that tells you that you can't go fuck another couple this weekend or you have to limit your activities in order to continue interacting with them. See, there's that control aspect coming out. One more kind of toxic person in the lifestyle. Couldn't think of a perfect name for them, so I'm going to call them the poachers. This is where one half of the couple, say the wife, tries to just straight up steal someone else's husband. It happens, unfortunately, and it can start innocently enough. Maybe there's a little separate side chat, just the two of them, maybe a few comments about emotional connection. Then shit gets weird. Then, you know, somebody's cut out of these discussions. Then it escalates in a bad territory, like making plans without you, just your spouse, you know? Yes, you can develop real friendships in this. We know couples that we have a deep, true, good friendship with, but that's it. It's a friendship. Yeah, I've totally seen their buttholes, but they're not a replacement for my spouse, and I'm not looking to poach anybody's spouse. I share with my wife a special kind of love that is reserved only for her. And I don't want to share that, replace that, expand that particular love to anybody else. It's hers and especially not someone else's wife. That's the line we all need to respect. So yeah, keep your mental health in check. Take breaks if you need to. Do a dopamine detox. Avoid toxic people. And wait, wait, I need to share one more kind of toxic person, and I don't feel like editing the script to incorporate them smoothly. Bullies. Fucking bullies. These are jackass grownups who want to push other people around. They exclude people from gatherings or events or cliques based on their own demented goblin criteria, or they make people participate in activities that they're not comfortable with. Same kind of energy as when you were a kid and dealt with a bully. Someone who wants to push around other people because their own life is devoid of emotional stability and meaning. Yeah, they exist. They exist everywhere, even in the lifestyle. And I would say the best way to deal with a bully is to stand up to them, but we're in the adult world. Usually the solution is you just walk away and avoid them sumbitches. In a city known for sin comes an event like no other. June 2025. Las Vegas will be taken over. The biggest lifestyle party on the planet is coming. Hotel takeovers, after parties that never end, and the hottest lifestyle couples from across the globe, ready to ignite the night. This is not just a weekend. This is a once-in-a-lifetime adventure. Join That Other Lifestyle for a gathering so epic it can only happen in Las Vegas. National Lifestyle Weekend 2025. Be there or live with the FOMO forever. Tickets available at thatotherlifestyle.com. Social safety. Throwing a curveball here. Keeping your social life safe, as in your job, family relations, social standing, is a legitimate concern in the lifestyle. What we do is not socially acceptable. There is a price that could be paid if your social circle, be it job, whatever, finds out about your interest in ethical non-monogamy. So right off, practice good online hygiene. Assume everyone is a stranger until they are friends. I think I've said that five times already. Do not share personal details. I can get a pretty good assessment of you as a person and my attraction to you without knowing which job is, where you work, what high school you went to, your address, fuck even your phone number or your last name. I know people and I have known them for years and I may not know their real names or I certainly don't know their last names. That's okay. We are connecting as people, as humans, not the label society gives us. Decide with your spouse what personal details you are comfortable sharing and not sharing. Create your discretion plan now. Granted, people may push back, especially newbies. Like they don't know the ropes yet. It's okay. I give them grace. Newbies, stop asking so many damn personal questions. You don't need to know where I work. You don't need to know all that. No one's job makes them more attractive, not even strippers. Newbies, there is a concept to learn real quick. Guilty by association. I can rattle off real-life examples of this one, but kind of a generic example, and it's kind of happened too. A group of us went out to a bar. It was about 30 people. A random person, vanilla person, notices the group and asks, what is the purpose of everyone being together at this moment? 29 people in this group could have said something totally innocent. Friend's birthday party, bowling club. That 30th person, one flaming jackass, inevitably is going to say, oh, we're all swingers. Fuck. That one dumb person said one dumb sentence. Now all 29 other people in this group are labeled swingers. And it doesn't matter if you're full swap, no swap, BDSM, or you just happen to stumble through everybody on your way to your bathroom. That vanilla person now knows. All these people, they know our secret. We are all guilty by association. Not a damn thing to do about this one except be smart. Have a cover story. Make sure everyone has the same cover story. Don't offer details. That's easy enough, right? Go on a step further. Stop waving around the pineapples. Y'all, vanilla people, they know about the pineapples. If they see a gaggle of 30 drunk people, everyone is wearing pineapples. They're going to make some assumptions that are fucking correct. Even if everyone stays on the same page, same cover story, nope, they know what's up. Be careful with your lifestyle clothes. Yes, a shirt that says, your husband is my cardio, is funny, haha, in the right context, in the right spaces. Not at a fucking chain restaurant on a Thursday night. And I want to caution everyone about group photos, those big ol' group photos. Oh, we have 50 people together in this bar. Let's commemorate this night with a big old group photo. You want to know what that picture is called? Evidence. By being in that picture, everyone there is now guilty by association. All it takes is one person to post that picture on Facebook. Now everyone in the picture is outed. If a vanilla person looks real close and realizes, oh, hey, I know that guy and that guy says he's a swinger, then they We'll be right back. Now everyone in the picture is outed. If a vanilla person looks real close and realizes, oh, hey, I know that guy and that guy says he's a swinger, then they will assume correctly that everyone else in the picture is a full-blown swinger too. Be careful with group photos. They can escape. And speaking of escaping, I want to talk about nudes. As I rewrite and record this, I realize all these little topics, these could be full-blown episodes in the future. Nudes, naked pictures. Oh my God, they're so wonderful, aren't they? It is very common practice to send nudes to other people, showing boobies and peckers. Every single day, I get nudes. I see nudes from people. I may have blown a vanilla person's mind right now. Yes, we freely share naked pictures all the time with people we trust. I know a couple of people who have been outed in the lifestyle. Every single one of their stories starts with a picture, a nude escaping the lifestyle ecosystem. It could be an accident. It could be intentional, whatever the reason, those pictures, and maybe not even a full nude, a picture escaped and people saw them. People started asking questions. My recommendation for nudes, only share them with people you trust. Trust is of vital importance in this regard. All it takes is one picture for people to start asking questions. Plan on sharing a sexy nude with a group of people. Keep your face hidden. Don't put your face in the picture and cover up any tattoos you have. Therefore, you have plausible deniability. And pick collectors. I need, I mentioned them a lot because I don't fucking like them. These are people, usually dudes, who as soon as you start a conversation, they're going to send over a picture of a naked woman. Hi, my name is Jerry. Here's my wife's butthole. So you think, oh, I have to reciprocate, and you send something back. Back and forth, back and forth. No real conversation, just nudes flying across the internet. Here's the deal. That is called a pic collector. All they want to do is gather up naked pictures, probably toate with. They have no intention of participating in the community, no intention of meeting you, no intention beyond gathering naked pictures. And they might even use an excuse like, oh, well, we aren't ready to meet anyone right now. Blah. Putting on our critical hats. That nude they sent over. You actually have no verification? That is their wife or their spouse. It could be a picture they got off the internet, or it could be a nude from the last person they tricked. There's some deceit going on. They could be gathering those pictures to put on their own website or to catfish people. Remember, you're under none, zero obligation to ever share a naked picture. Share a nude. Ever. No matter how much people begate or push your buttons and i have encountered desperate pic collectors they tried to use the argument that i had to share something out of a moral duty like i had to share a nude since they shared an unrequested picture with me it's the same concept as dudes who send out dick pics all day you never have to reciprocate we have gone as far as putting on our profile that we will not share explicit or nude photos until we have met in person. Putting that disclaimer out there has significantly cut down on the number of people that reach out to us, which is fine. Better to warn them away than deal with their bullshit. And I guess I need to do an episode about nudes now. I don't want to scare anyone away from the lifestyle. I want people to be safe, be smart, be cautious. We are all living in a crazy world and a little precaution, forethought, and preparedness goes a long way. I always appreciate hearing your feedback and comments on episodes or suggestions for topics, so feel free to reach out to me at host at thatotherlifestyle.com. My website, thatotherlifestyle.com. Do the subscribing thing and the follow and the clicking and the liking and all that. Other news for everybody, I am doing YouTube videos now. So adding that to my repertoire, short YouTube videos that are different than the podcast episode. So I'm still gonna do this long form essay style, half an hour about podcast episode, but I will also be doing YouTube videos over there on different topics every week. So go check out my videos. Leave me a like, leave me a comment, smiley face, all that. My personal disclaimer, I am not a medical professional nor a trained and certified educator of any kind in any way. I am a guy with a microphone sharing my personal experiences with you. 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