Welcome to "That Other Lifestyle Podcast," where host Jason delves into the vibrant world of ethical non-monogamy. Whether you're new to the lifestyle or an experienced participant, this episode offers valuable insights into forming diverse connections within the community. Discover the importance of distinguishing between different types of relationships and the significance of prioritizing friendships that truly matter.
Join Jason as he shares personal experiences and advice on how to navigate the complexities of the lifestyle, from brief encounters to deep, lasting friendships. Learn about the dynamics of swinging and the value of openness, vulnerability, and understanding in creating meaningful relationships. This episode emphasizes the necessity of maintaining a healthy perspective on connections and cherishing the moments shared with others.
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good afternoon good evening wherever you are i hope you have blue skies welcome to that other lifestyle podcast i am your host jason leave vanilla behind as we talk about your relationships with other couples in the lifestyle this podcast is for adults only we will be diving into adult and sexual topics with plenty of colorful language so it is is not safe for work, y'all. If you're under 18, this is not the show for you.
This show is all about exploring the lifestyle and ethical non-monogamy, and y'all, it's open to everyone, no matter your background, gender identity, gender expression, or whatever truth you may be living. While I do my best to use inclusive language, you may hear terms like husband, wife, or partner, just for simplicity's sake This show is for everyone. Lifestyle, vanilla, or just the curious. Want to connect?
You can send me an email to host at thatotherlifestyle.com, visit my website thatotherlifestyle.com, or check out my favorite lifestyle product recommendations at binnable.com slash thatotherlifestyle. Everyone is welcome here because the lifestyle is so much more than you think. She sits across from me in this smoky, dimly lit bar, a gaudy beachside dive bar on a biting cold Saturday night. Her fingers trace the brim of her glass, slow and deliberate, while beneath the table, my hand draws lazy, invisible shapes on the warm skin of her knee.
In this moment, in this space, it's the only touch we dare share, a secret connection, hidden from prying eyes and unspoken questions. Our hands are bound by the invisible shackles of discretion, but the heat between us does not fade. Now it swirls and rises, captured in glances that linger too long, in smiles that speak of things unsaid, in words that promise more than their meaning. I inhale deeply, filling my lungs with the smoky air and the ache of wanting. My eyes lock with hers, and there it is, a spark, a twinkle, a hint of mischief and fire.
Hers are the kind of eyes a man could drown in, willingly, eagerly, and I do drown. Our physical escapades leave me breathless and panting often. She's bundled in a fur coat against the winter chill, but I know every curve hidden beneath. Her body, her warmth, is a summer wind in humid form, soft and inviting. That white dress she wears clings to her body a whisper of the pleasures that lie beneath, and I can't stop imagining, exploring every inch with my mouth, savoring her ways that defy all mortal language. She is a glorious enigma, a puzzle that I never want to solve.
Her presence ignites me, that fire starting the base of my spine and curling up to steal my breath, before sliding back down to awaken something primal. She is a rare spark, enthusiasm and stamina wrapped in irresistible grace, a force of nature that leaves me undone. My mind races, grappling with the intensity of my thoughts, the needs that she awakens. To the world, she wears many faces, employee, mother, sister. But here, with us, my wife and her husband and I, she shed those skins and becomes someone else entirely.
We see her free, free from expectations, from restraint, from the tethers of the vanilla world. Here, she is a force of pure desire, unrestrained and unapologetic. Her smile tonight is radiant, a promise of pleasure, waiting just beyond the veil of this cold, ordinary evening. I often feel trapped in a cardboard world, holding back the depths of my desire, the sheer power of what I'm capable of giving and taking. But she, this woman, is my equal, a woman who dives as deeply into passions as I do, who matches my hunger and meets me below for below. She has satisfaction and power.
When we're together, her scent lingers on my skin, a mingling of her perfume and the raw, intoxicating fragrance of shared pleasure. She is beauty even in exhaustion, and she and her want never wavers. After years of knowing her, she still stirs something deep within me, a desire that never fades. But tonight, tonight is not for indulgence. Tonight we sit in this cold bar, the frigid embrace of winter, my wife and her husband at the bar beside us.
This is a night of restraint for feeding the fire of longing that will burn until we all share a hidden moment again, a night to remember that even in the cold, the heat still burns between us. This woman is my friend. Over the years, between the four of us, my wife and her husband, we have shared triumphs and defeats. We have toasted to new years and broken beds together. Every time we see them, my wife and I discover new facets and traits and history of their lives. We have laid on a bed, all four of us naked, and talked for hours. They are our friends. Friends with a big F.
And I'm personally hesitant to say that, not because of her or him or them. I do consider them my friends, fully and completely. No question of that. I am hesitant because to me, that word friend is powerful. For me, I never had a lot of friends growing up. I have no idea what happened to any of the motherfuckers I went to high school or college with. I have a friend that sounds so bad and so sad. I'm sorry. I got one friend. He is like a brother to me and we have known each other for over 30 years. And he does listen to this podcast, by the way.
So, hey, brother, man, to me, it is more valuable I don calling it. Yes, I'm going to get to the point of this whole episode to just roll with me. This episode is about relationships in the lifestyle. If you were new to all this, I need you to know that not everyone is your friend. Not everyone is going to be a lifelong bestie over here. That sounds really fucking harsh. I get it, but y'all, it's true. There are different types of connections that you are going to make in the lifestyle.
Do not invest yourself emotionally into a new relationship with a couple or a person until they have proven to you that a friendship-type connection is what they're also looking for, full stop. To experienced listeners, I know y'all are gonna back me up on this one. With experience, with interacting with new couples, y'all newbies out there, y'all will learn not everyone is on the same page in terms of what they're looking for in the lifestyle. That's okay. Remember, this is a hobby. This is a bonus. Your own relationship with your spouse, that's always number one.
And yeah, there's polyamory, which is a whole different thing, and open marriages, all that stuff. That is a topic for another episode entirely. Just know, you have unlimited capacity to love. That's true. You have unlimited capacity to make friends. You have to learn the different types of relationships that are possible in the lifestyle as well. I hear from newbies, and I will tell you now, the lifestyle can be surprisingly lonely. Say what? But Jason, you're always talking about these great parties and meeting new people and fucking them. How can any of that possibly be lonely?
Look, it can be lonely because what I see happen in full honesty. This has been to me and my wife when we started. People may not reciprocate the type of relationship a couple is looking for. Let me explain the different types of connections as I see it categorically. This is going to make a lot more sense. And I'm going to write these on a scale of friendship, closeness, that makes sense to me. But none of these are inherently better than others. Just get that. It is a wide spectrum. However people want to experience the lifestyle is completely up to them.
And all those different desires and ways are totally valid. We need to be aware that not everyone is going to experience the lifestyle or look for the same experiences as other people. And what about a very specific scenario that you have in your head that doesn't fit neatly into any of these categories that I completely made up? I don't know. I don't know you. We didn't grow up together. Yes, there are relationships that are going to fall outside of these fucking categories that I made up.
I would be here all day dissecting and explaining every possible permutation potential fuckery out there. We ain't got time for that. I know you're probably listening to this, waiting in line to pick up your kids from school, make sure you turn it off before they get in the car, or you're on a treadmill, or you're walking around the grocery store with the headphones in. I really hope I called somebody out right there and I just freaked you out because hey, I can see you. First level, first category, uno, one, associates, as I'm going to call them.
These are people like you may meet them in an elevator. You meet them at a party. You exchange names. Maybe a quick introduction. Are you going to see them at the next party? I don't know. Will you ever see these people again in your life? Maybe, maybe not. They might disappear. They might actually be 19th century ghosts who stumbled into a period accurate theme party for the night. These people I call associates, not in a bad way. I know they exist. And personally, I know you exist as an associate. I don't know much else about you. Probably won't go out of my way to talk to you again.
Again, I'd say that in a nice way, like a step above strangers. I know your name. You know my name. I know you exist. Second level, bangables. Do not question these category names. I use an exhaustive research system to create these categories, which included I took a sip of coffee and then I made up a fucking word. Bangables. These are people that you meet at a party or you might see them on a website. There's a physical attraction here. They meet your personal, physical preferences. A step up from associates, you learn their names, maybe their play style.
These are couples that you and your spouse talk about on your way home from an event, or y'all look through their profile online. You're interested, but you don't really have an opening to pursue whatever for whatever fucking reason. They're on radar a potential though and you know each other's names there may have been a conversation are you ready to party in paradise risque lifestyle parties presents pulsify 2025 at the island resort on the sparkling waters of the gulf coast Fort Walton Beach, Florida, September 26th through the 28th, 2025.
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This kind of thing happens a lot at resorts and Thank you. together for a night of glorious, awkward sex, and then they're gone. You never fucking hear from them again. This kind of thing happens a lot at resorts and on cruises. There are couples, their whole operating procedure, again, no right or wrong answer, they just want to get fucked. They have sex and go back to their lives. Yes, they exist. I have met them, and in my style, but I know they exist. They don't want lasting connections. One night of fun is all they need to fill their quota for the year.
They might only engage in lifestyle things once a year, and then they go right back to their vanilla lives. For these couples, broad generalization time here. They enjoy the act of sex more than the connection aspect. Whatever reason, they're not into making long-lasting besties. They want to get laid tonight, today, right now. No judgment because this can be fun. A mystery, a shared memory for you and your spouse that one time you met a couple and 20 minutes later, y'all were humping. It's a good memory.
It is good to know going into an encounter with another couple, what they are looking for after. Straight up. Some couples have no intention of ever talking to you again. Better to know that, right? Before you jump on that pecker because trying to force a relationship with people who ain't about it will only end badly. Next, third level, temporary connections. not a one-night stand necessarily. Fuck me. Y'all, necessarily is a super hard word to spell. This might be a couple you have sex with at least once, then you chat a little bit, meet up for a second or third time or fourth.
The number doesn't really matter. What matters is that it ends. You find a couple, you get nasty and freaky every weekend for a month, and then it's done. For whatever reason, it's over. Maybe there's an amicable split. Maybe there's some ghosting involved, which is shitty, but it happens. Whatever reason, though, it ends. You had fun while it lasted. Time to move on because they probably already moved on, too. Again, all these ways of doing the lifestyle are valid. I can't knock anyone. I'm not knocking anyone. Don't fucking take it like that.
The important takeaway is to establish what a connection with another is and whether or not you and your spouse should invest any emotional currency into it. Fourth level, sex friends. These are couples that you have an ongoing relationship with. Y'all have sex with them, but you don't see them on a regular basis. Need to be a little distinction here. I know couples that we talk to them once a week, once a month. We send messages to check on them. We may only hang out in person once every six months due to distance or proximity. They're still my friends.
Friends being defined in this situation as people I have ongoing communication with, and there's a desire to fuck them whenever the opportunity presents itself. And yeah, random aside, this is the thought that hit me when I was writing this. If you know me and you see me in public and you listen to this episode, don't walk up to me and ask what category you're in, because I'm going to una-reverse that shit right back to you. Anyway, sex friends. And yeah, this categorization system breaks down completely right about here.
There are people that you're going to make friends with, people that you enjoy their company and you'll chat, and you may be friends that you never have sex with. It happens. Physical attraction's not there. Maybe you don't align on play style. That's okay too. These connections are more than just two ships ships passing in the night like a one-night stand. You can be friends with people in the lifestyle and not have sex. I said it. Fight me. Our community, our way of doing this does not have to be solely dependent upon sex, y'all.
We, you, and me can form friendships with people outside of ever seeing them naked. Did you know that? That's okay, too. Granted, there are some people who don't like this idea. They're only in the lifestyle to get fucked. Okay, that's fine, too. You do you, boo. For you, dear listener, what I advise is knowing the difference between people who may only want to get fucked and people who want a deeper connection. Both ways are valid of doing the lifestyle. And again, I'm not judging. I'm going to touch on this issue here in a minute. Fifth level, friends with a big F.
There's no quantifier, no adjective attached. These are friends. You don't know which one people are. Here's a test. Extreme example. You get into a car wreck. You can only call people in the lifestyle section of your life. Who you call it? You know, again, it's an extreme example, but think about it. If you need to think about that, if you need to put someone into a category. Oh yeah, but don't put people in a category, says the guy who's sitting here making up all these fucking categories.
This is where I make the distinction between people I would call for a fun night out and who am I calling to help me out in my personal life? As I write this and record it, I realize how shitty I am coming across, but it's going to make more sense here in a minute. For me, the difference is, for someone that I will put into the friend category with a big capital F, when all hell breaks loose, when I need emotional support beyond just nudes, when I need somebody to physically help me, who am I going to call? And you may think, well, damn, that's a lot to ask of your lifestyle tribe, but is it?
Is it possible for us to make real friendships in this? I say yes, because I have. If you find the idea of making friends with the big F and the lifestyle weird, that's okay too. You are totally valid if you want to keep your vanilla alive and your lifestyle separate. You're totally valid if you aren't looking for Sunday afternoon in the park kind of friends. This is all based on personal preference and the depths of relationships that you are looking for in the lifestyle.
Another way of asking these questions, do you feel comfortable enough with another couple to say you don't like something they do in bed? Comfortable enough to offer feedback on sexual techniques? That's a big delineator right there. Or how about the extent of personal details you know about them? Y'all, I have known people for years in the lifestyle. No fucking clue what their jobs are. I never asked. Are there last names? I have had sex with people and I have never known their last name. That's actually not that weird. People tend to guard their personal vanilla life and the lifestyle.
It may only be after you've established a long-term connection with someone do they start to share their personal details. This may also mean you need to have staying power in the lifestyle. Being around, being part of the local community shows that you're just not going to learn intimate, identifiable personal details about people then bail. Longevity helps with making good connections. And if you're a newbie and you find that people seem standoffish to you, it ain't personal y'all. It's because you're new. People can be guarded in the lifestyle.
They may have real shit at stake if their secret life gets found out. It's a defensive mechanism to protect themselves from people spreading their business. In time, with time, and with actions, people will be more open to you. So don't get butthurt if someone doesn't want to tell you what they do for a living. You see the part I just said about longevity and the lifestyle helps you make good connections. Being friends is hard to define, and you might think of people as your friends, and they don't feel the same. Have you ever heard of the friendship paradox?
The friendship paradox is a social phenomenon where most people tend to perceive that their friends have more friends than they do, and somehow that's true based on how social networks are structured because you are more likely to be friends with people who have a larger social circle. The average number of friends that your friends have will appear higher than your own. Science is fucking weird. Anyway, friends with a big F.
What I see happen, especially to newbies, is that they don't have the experience in the lifestyle to distinguish between different types of relationships that may form with other people. Think about the way we create connections in the lifestyle versus every other fucking place on the planet that humans interact. Say in school, you were forced every day to go to a place with these same kids over and over again. Even if you have nothing in common with them, you still form social connections due to proximity and time. Work is another one.
Because you go there every day, naturally, you will form connections with co-workers over time. Maybe friends or maybe the dreaded work husband or wife. Look, someone called me their work husband one time and my reaction was, what the fuck? I don't like work and I certainly don't want a work wife there. Like, I have a wife. She's great. I get it though. It's an example of people creating deep connections through working together and commiserating their working life.
You as a participant in the lifestyle, or maybe you're a future participant in the lifestyle, need to know that as much as it sucks to say, not everyone has the potential nor interest in becoming a friend with the big F. And that's okay too. I mentioned the lifestyle can be lonely earlier and I want to share more about that. I promise this whole episode is going to tie up great. The lifestyle can be lonely because you may form a lot of connections that are not very deep or these are connections that you think are deeper and the other side of the equation doesn't feel that way.
Harsh truth right here. Despite knowing a lot of people, and you will meet a lot of people, they may not have the same feelings or outlooks or desires in the lifestyle as you. And to flip this around and mix it all up, you may be the kind of couple that only wants one-night stands or temporary connections. If that is you, I ask you that you not lead on other couples into thinking that there's going to be some kind of friendship when the night is over. As horrible as it is to say, couples might talk a good game and say exactly what you want to hear to get you naked.
And if friendship is that thing, they might use that. Be honest with what you're looking for and let people make the decision for themselves. Relationships and the lifestyle are always in flux. They will end and they will begin anew. A connection that died out months ago may flare back to life with a vengeance. A couple that dropped out years ago could suddenly start reaching out to you looking for fun. Lifestyle people are a flaky bunch. It's like herding cats. We can't even decide on what bar to meet up on a Saturday night. We certainly are not good at deciding where relationships can go.
That flux? That's normal. Newbies, learn this. That's normal. Do not take it personally. I promise there are 99 reasons a couple may drop out of the lifestyle or break off communication, and you probably ain't one of them. Life happens. The vanilla life will always get in the way and take precedent. The best course of action when this happens to you, when you're dealing with that flux and that shifting relationships and you don't know what the fuck to do, leave the door open. Should they return and want to resume a relationship, you can decide at that moment whether to proceed.
Do not grieve for lost connections or people. Do not fret and worry about the why. Do not waste your precious life on what could have been. People are free to do as they please. We ain't married to anyone except our spouse. We have to accept the decisions of others to participate in the lifestyle. Now, I'm saying all of this knowing full damn well that if a relationship you invested a lot of energy into ends, whatever reason, it hurts. It fucking hurts when people you thought of as friends just stop. It fucking sucks.
It is only through experience that you will get better at dealing with the end or loss of a connection, and I promise you will. There are people we are friends with in this lifestyle, and I know I would cry big old sad man tears if it ended with him. I would be sad. The comfort, my only comfort is I got to experience it. You shared with someone else or another couple a moment of happiness, however brief. Being happy it happened, not sad it ended kind of thing. It is hollow words for me when it is happening to you though, and in the moment when you're going through it.
But I promise you, dealing with it gets better with experience. And remember, you still have your anchor, your emotional center, your spouse. You have got to go on this adventure together. Don't look at relationships in the lifestyle as forever things, as bad as that is to say. I know there are some relationships that I personally want to be forever things, and you probably do too. You find a really good couple, everything clicks, sex is great. These are people you want to invest long-term energy into. Think of your lifestyle relationships as a mountain. Big old tall mountain.
You and your spouse are going to climb. Every connection has the potential to bring you to the summit of that mountain. And in this case, the summit being a long-term friendship. They all have that potential. You can't quite make out where the peak of this mountain is because it's hidden in the clouds. You don't know. You don't know how tall it is. It might be a short mountain that only takes a single day to climb. You get to the top and you realize, oh shit, this is a lot shorter. Not as tall as I thought it was. Or it could take months or years and you stand on the summit happy to be there.
Sooner or later, you have to come down that mountain though. Does this analogy work? And I think it is. Look, you never know where a connection will go unless you're open to at least climbing that mountain. The guessing stops now with STD Hero. STD Hero is a trusted source for at-home STD, HPV, and herpes testing. It's simple, private, and reliable. All results are reviewed by an in-house doctor, and as a small business, customer service is a priority. They offer an advanced STD panel that screens for chlamydia, gonorrhea, trichomoniasis, HIV-1 and 2, and syphilis.
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Join us for a celebration of freedom, connection, and unforgettable moments. The sun will be shining with shining with bikinis music and the best vibes on the planet mark your calendars get your tickets for the biggest lifestyle party ever at national lifestyle weekend tickets are available at that other lifestyle.com what makes for a good long-term friendship in the lifestyle is there anything we can do to foster a better relationship with other people? So, we have to ask first, if these people you want to have a long-term friendship with the big F with, do they want that?
Friendship's kind of like anal sex. If someone ain't interested in it, you should enforce it. If people are not reciprocating the same energy you're giving and putting into this relationship, y'all, it ain't going to work out. No magical tip here. Just like making friends anywhere else in life, we just have the added possibility of getting naked repeatedly. Shared hobbies, outlook on life, proximity. Well, proximity is not that big of a deal because we have digital communication. If you want a tip that helps, being vulnerable.
It increases your depth as a person and it allows people to know that they can be vulnerable with you when you share your own vulnerabilities. With adult friendships, we may not have the benefit of forced interactions like in other times of your life. You will have to work on this. It takes work to make and maintain adult friendships. I dare say it's easier though in the lifestyle because at least y'all, we got one hobby in common to open the door. Our hobby naturally requires communication, requires vulnerability on some level. So yeah, you will find friends.
You will find people to hang out with. You're gonna to be okay. I also feel like it's a numbers game. The more couples you meet and interact with, the greater chance you have of making those friends are the big F. You got to swing the bat. You have to just put the bat in your hand and swing it hard at whatever ball comes along. You can't sit back hoping that someone will reach out on one of these adult dating sites. You need to be proactive. And yeah, there's a possibility that your overture will not be reciprocated, but at least you tried. Trying is half the battle.
Like most things in life, showing up is the other half. My last piece of advice, and maybe the most important, is to hold on loosely. Just like that old rock song, hold on loosely to the friends you make and the lifestyle. This is not to knock anyone, and I ain't saying not to invest your emotional currency into any relationship. But understand that people can and will drop in and out of the lifestyle.
This is not most people's primary identity as, you know, oh, look at users no they identify vanilla first swinger second the life happens like i always say we can't do anything about what other people do either good or bad what we can do is make sure that our outlook is healthy our reactions are healthy and we understand newbies understand getting into this you're going to meet a lot of people. People will throw around the friend work. However, they and you define that. Some people talk a really good game at a party, and then you never fucking see them again. Understand that this can happen.
It's not you, though. It's not personal. Their personal lives, their vanilla life, may have taken precedent, and that's okay, too. People are going to come and go. There may be weekends when everyone is busy. You can't find a single person to hang out with, and fuck me, that hurts. You feel pain because you thought these people were your friends. Why don't they want to hang out with you? What happened? Why aren't they making you a priority? I get it. I've been there myself. I have felt that myself. What helped me in dealing with this?
Maybe called pseudo friends or people just disappearing or that feeling like no one wants to hang out with you? Two things. One, my wife. Fuck it. No one wants to hang out with us. I'm going to hang out with my favorite person in the world, and I will enjoy it. We're finally going to sit down and do that 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle we have been putting off. The universe is telling you in this moment, if you can't find anybody else to hang out with, yeah, you. You need to reconnect with your spouse. Take advantage of this time. Number two, keep on swinging. It is a numbers game.
Look, if you only know three couples, and they're all busy on the same weekend, not really good odds. Meet more couples. Increase your odds that someone somewhere will be available to hang out with you. Don't lock yourself into a bubble. Swing that bat. Meet new people. And third thing, because I'm terrible at counting sometimes, and I just thought of something else that I always tell people to, if there is no party, make a party. You are fully fucking empowered to do your own meetup, party, gathering, whatever. It's kind of risky, though.
If you roll the dice, you invite a whole bunch of people, no one shows up, it sucks. But it could be really successful. Well, if you're thinking about this, let me give you a little more advice. My attitude towards parties and meetups and gatherings or whatever, if I decide to throw a house party, my attitude is, and you need to adopt this one too, my attitude is I can have fun with two couples or 50. If you go this route, nothing's happening, I'm going to do something. Do not count how many people show up. Put that thought out of your head.
Because some people think, you know, if X numbers show up, then this was a successful event in air quotes. Put that thought out of your head. I have had house parties where 50 people showed up and the next one only 10. But you know what? I had a fucking blast with those 10 people. We have done meetups where 100 people show up and another time, seven showed up. And I had fun with those 7. I said earlier, this is a numbers game and now I'm saying numbers don't matter. Fuck me, I'm confusing today.
The more people you know, the more likely you are to find friends if that is what you were looking for. The more people you know, the more people you can invite to hang out with you. And if you do have a party, just be happy for whoever shows up, Not sad that more people didn't show up. I always appreciate hearing your feedback and comments on episodes or suggestions for topics, so y'all feel free to reach out to me at host at thatotherlifestyle.com. My website is thatotherlifestyle.com.
My personal disclaimer, I am not a medical professional nor a trained or certified educator of any kind in any way. I am a guy with a microphone sharing my personal experiences with you. This podcast is for entertainment purposes only. Please join us for the next episode. Remember, STI testing is important and takes the community to make a difference. Whatever you may do today, I hope you have a fantastic time doing it. Know that you are appreciated and loved. Y'all have a great day.
