Living Bi and Bold: Real Talk with Kyle and Ashley

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I am here for it yeah it's like you still need to ask for consent every time even if you did something an hour ago like I still feel like you should I'll just never understand why you think you can tell people without asking I just don't right it's literally just being your most honest authentic self and people accepting that yeah and not everyone's gonna love you and you know everyone has to but you find the ones you know that you can be yourself around and those with people welcome to hot A Couple Chronicles, a podcast exploring the swinging lifestyle. Our discussions may contain explicit content and adult themes intended for mature audiences. While we strive to offer valuable insights and entertainment, please be aware that the views expressed are based on personal experiences and opinions. We encourage listeners to approach the content with an open mind and to prioritize communication, consent, and respect in their relationships. Remember, everyone's journey is unique, so take what resonates with you and leave what doesn't. Thank you for joining us on our adventure. We are here today. We are joined with Ashley and Kyle, NC Hot Wife, Dirty Max. You might know them as different things, but they are a bisexual couple in the lifestyle. We haven't had that on yet, so I'm excited to talk more about that. And they also create content and just started a podcast on YouTube called By The Way, which is exciting. How has that been going? How has everything been going? A very big learning experience. Isn't it? So before we get started, just kind of tell us a little bit about yourselves and your story. Okay. So we are high school sweethearts. We've been together since we were 16 and 17. We got engaged young at 18, got married at 21. We started in the life. Well, we started talking about the lifestyle probably, my gosh, probably six or seven years. years ago, we talked about it for, oh my gosh, probably a good two years before we ever actually did anything in the lifestyle. I think that if we wouldn't, like, I think it was just, are we going to do this or not? Yeah. How long are we going to talk about this for before we can help? Yeah. Because we just kind of jumped in both feet. Yeah. It's good. It's a good thing to keep talking. That's what we always say. That's a good thing. Smaller the better. I think I was kind of hesitant. Just because we were high school sweethearts. We had never been with anybody before. So that was a big, like, question mark for us then. We started the lifestyle because he wanted to see me with somebody else. And then we kind of did single guys and couples. Yeah. We're not, it's not so much in, like, Like, we've never really done anything with, oh, I guess we've done something with one unicorn, but. You never seeked it out. Yes. Yeah. That's either, yeah. That's kind of our dynamic. Yeah, we've had a couple unicorns. Around, in group settings and stuff like that, but never. Yeah, I think that's the only thing ever is in a group setting. Yeah. Yeah. And then the bisexuality part, how did that come about? When did you realize that you might be bi, Kyle? Actually, both of you. Yeah, both of you. I think that's really, like, we started with doing that because our first experience was with another guy and it was in a bi setting so i was wondering if it was lifestyle when yeah yeah i mean i didn't have any i mean i guess like a couple years before we did anything like i had some like curiosities about it yeah yeah just kind of searching on the internet and was like hey this is this is kind of yeah um and i think i just always had that curiosity like that's when i wanted to watch something That's what I was searching for. Yes. I get that. For sure. And then being in the lifestyle and being by, how do you navigate your rules and boundaries together? And how did you kind of figure that all out? I feel like we talked about it a lot. Yeah. Especially in the beginning. I feel like, I don't know, I feel like we talk about it more now than we ever do. Yeah. But more so just some of it was trial and error. I would say yeah but we were pretty firm on like doing things in the same room and group chats and yeah we're really like hard like yes like have to do yeah yeah and then we talked a little bit at the beginning about your content creation and all of that how did that come about when did you get onto social media and how did that start oh gosh it was actually the first time we went to trapeze. It was. That was the first time we met you guys. Ashley introduced herself by sitting in Kyle's lap in the backseat. No more seats. That's the way we do it. Yeah, everybody was just like... Like, you don't have one? You don't have one? We joked about it for years. Yeah, we joked about it for a long time. And one day I was like, let's just do it. Like, oh my gosh, you have to do it. And I'm like, let's do it. That's how I started. Everyone's like, everyone is doing it. So we kind of made it just so they could record. Yeah. So they could tag us. That's how ours started. Yeah. And then I was like, well, I guess, I mean, I might as well do it too if I'm making it. Oh, but yeah. Yeah. Hey there, listeners. Are you looking to prioritize your sexual health and wellness? We've got just a thing for you. Shameless Care offers at-home testing kits, telehealth consultations, and even treatment for ED and performance anxiety for when you want to play but your body says otherwise. It's convenient, discreet, and all about keeping you at your best. And guess what? We've teamed up with them to give you an exclusive discount. Use code HOT, that's code H-O-T, at checkout to get $30 off your first order. Don't walk, run. It's time to take charge of your sexual health today with Shameless Care because your health is nothing to be ashamed of. All right. So how has your journey as a couple influenced the content that you make? Like if it might be social media or even the spicy content? I would definitely say as far as the spicy content, we definitely, we don't do anything content creation wise that we wouldn't like anything we wouldn't do. We're not going to do off camera or vice versa. Yeah. Sorry. The other way around. Yeah. So if we camera on off, whatever those things are, they're always the same. There's nothing different that we're going to do on camera. And social media. I don't know. Social media is very. It's a wild, wild west. Relationship. Yeah. We try to do. Like, I don't want to say like all thirst traps and stuff like that, but like... You have to. You do a lot as a couple. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff like that. Yeah. It's really a balance. You want to educate. You want to advocate. You want to do a good message for lifestyle, but then you have, you know, it's still Instagram and TikTok and you want to keep up with the trends and you want to go viral and you want to get those views and people mad and people talking and, you know, so it's that constant. Yeah. It still blows me away that as soon as somebody gets mad, it starts like this avalanche those are the videos that get the 500 000 million two million views i'm like this is insane i can get a thousand beautiful you're great amazing you're doing wonderful and we'll do nothing and then all the shame comments and you've got millions of views on that sucker and so yeah i completely understand it's like staying true to yourself you're trying to be yourself but you also got to constantly it's social media yeah you gotta you gotta do all the stuff you gotta be a little cringy You gotta be a little bit weird. To get somewhere there. Yeah. So, have there been any misconceptions being a bi-couple that you've run into? The one thing I always get a lot from with is single guys that, like, we might seek out to either play with, make content with. They always think that I will bottom. And it's like, okay, there are bi-couples out there that the guy doesn't do that. Yeah, kind of understand, like, maybe just ask what your playstyle and, you know, buy is instead of just assuming. Yeah. I was actually kind of going to ask that next was, so from the beginning to where you guys are now, have you become more just comfortable and open as you've navigated everything? Oh, yeah. For sure. I mean, we had our first experience was with a buy guy, and that was, gosh, probably five years ago. Yeah. Publicly, you didn't say anything about being bi until, oh my gosh. It was like 20. It's like two or three years ago, maybe. Yeah. It was like 2023 or something. Yeah. Like, hey, like, yeah, I'm cool with this. And how have you, have you noticed the lifestyle itself changing how people view being a bi male? Has it gotten better over time or have you stayed the same? I don't know if it's gotten any better. I definitely, noticed more guys that are kind of coming out of the word works. Yeah. I've noticed that. Yeah. Yeah. They're not like advertising. Yeah. They're just like. Yeah. They'll say something to me or something like that. Like. Yeah. Kind of curious about this. But they're. It's. It's crazy. They're still afraid to put it out there. Mm hmm. I noticed like a lot of people that we know are becoming more open. Yeah. That they're curious. Like we know a lot of bi couples and. either the woman or the man is vicarious. They've always leaned towards drape and now are like, I think I might like this. I was like, heck, explore it. I do like that. I mean, at least now, I guess people are more comfortable. Yeah. I do think it's like slow. I don't think it's made like a drastic. It's like slowly coming around. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, when we first started, it was a lot of, a lot of, in our experience. Yeah, I mean, I remember being in a group setting and another guy just accidentally, like, brushing against another guy and the guy freaked out. I'm like, we're all naked. Like, you have to be a little bit okay. I'm like, it blew me away in certain settings, like, kind of like the homophobia of a lot of people. That was one of the first, like, hypocrisies we called out in the lifestyle. We say we're open and we're honest, but When it comes to men that are being openly bi, there's this negative stigma. Like, oh, they're just gay. Like, no. It's like you're good with your wife being bi, but it's not okay for her husband to be bi either. It was such a weird dichotomy that I was watching. I'm like, what the heck's going on right now? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. 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I mean, we all got to, you know, want to respect each other and the lifestyle, but at the same time, don't worry about what other people think about you, as long as you're happy. You're listening to a podcast right now. Driving, working out, walking the dog. If you're into podcasts, chances are you have something to say too. With RSS.com, starting your own is free and easy. Upload an episode and we distribute it to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and hundreds more. Track your listeners, see where they're from, and start earning from ads like this, even with just 10 listeners a month. If you've been thinking about starting a podcast, You're listening to a podcast right now. Driving, working out, walking the dog. If you're into podcasts, chances are you have something to say too. With RSS.com, starting your own podcast is free and easy. Upload an episode and we distribute it to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and more. Track your listeners, see where they're from, and start earning from ads just like this. If you've been thinking about starting a podcast, this is your sign. Start your new podcast for free today at RSS.com. Just be true to yourself. And if it's something you think you want to try, definitely be honest with your spouse. I feel like there's too many men even that have commented on TikTok and they're just like, I'm afraid what my wife's going to say. Just be your like biggest supporter. Like talk to her. That's your best friend. Yeah. Yeah. I can never wrap my head around it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, one of our first lifestyle experiences was a lot of men that were on the DL or married men that we were running into. And it's like, why don't you just bring your wife with you? Why do we have to hide this? You never know. You might really like it because a lot of women that like wish their husbands were because they're like, oh my God. That is so hot. I am here for it. I don't understand it. I just don't understand it. All of that, it's just so hot. So I don't get it. Do you guys have any lessons or tips that you wish you knew before that you know now? Just in lifestyle in general. Just in general. I don't know that this isn't something that personally, like I've done this with something that was experienced to me is that Just because you go to a club, you have fun with somebody, you go back to that same club, you see them again. There's not an automatic assumption of like, I did something last time. We're doing something this time. It's like you still need to ask for consent every time, even if you did something an hour ago. Like, I still feel like you should, especially, I don't know, I feel like you can almost tell. It's not like a server hall pass. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's something people don't necessarily know, but that is all consent. Yeah. Well, that's something we've ran into here relatively recently, where we have gotten really close with a group of people, and we're all just really comfortable with each other. We've had the conversations, and they see one of the guys do something to Ashley or me do something to one of their wives, and then people just Oh, she likes that. I'm going to try that. It's like, no, no, we've stopped full play sessions. Oh, yeah. Because somebody touched somebody without consent. Yeah. Numerous times in the last six months. I'll just never understand why you think you can like without asking. I just don't. Right. Yeah. I even lady at secrets one time. Oh, my gosh. I will never forget this woman. I won't say I don't even know her name is. But she came up to me behind me. We were in the club at secrets. She came up to me and she grabbed me and she She touched me and she's like, I know I'm not supposed to touch you, but I just can't. I just can't help it. But you can't help it. Yeah. Unfortunately, I've had a lot of problems more with women with that because women just think that they get free reign. Well, I think part of that too, and Kyle might agree, is as a man, we've had to navigate those waters our entire life. That was one of the biggest challenges when we got in the lifestyle is I wanted to be able to talk to women but not come off as predatory like i'm like just wanted to get to know you you know and if anything happens great but it's not yeah it's whatever like that was my biggest thing is i didn't want to come off as that creepy guy that's just yeah and honestly like i feel like most people probably think that you come off as i don't know if i can say that a word an a-hole you can say anything you want this is our platform Like, we might hang around with each other for, you know, a dozen times, but I'm still not going to come up and put my hand on your back. Like, come up and grab you because I'm like, I don't know how she's going to be feeling. So I, like, lean so far on the other end of just being so reserved, essentially, when I'm around other lifestyle people. Yeah, I get that. And also, in a sense, some people take that as, like, oh, he's not interested. Like, he really doesn't like me, kind of. And it's just that. It's just who he is. I run into that a lot, too. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I people just think I'm never interested in anybody because I'm just quiet. I'm just quiet. I observe. I'm shy. I just I watch people. And you have to really. And plus, I don't really notice if you're flirting with me or if I'm completely oblivious. So I just sit back. Oh, that person was so nice. It's also nice. of them. Hey, beautiful. If you're looking to feel confident and sexy, Voluptuous Fixin has got you covered with stunning lingerie and outfits that fit every curve. And for our listeners, you can snag 10% off your order with code HOTCOUPLENGA at checkout. Don't miss out. Check out the link below and find your next favorite piece. All right. And then we wanted to do a few rapid fire questions as well. We love doing these. kind of keep you on your toes. So first one is most memorable experience as a bi couple in the lifestyle. I think the first experience we had with Virginia. That was. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Gosh, the Durdens. Oh, we love them. Oh, yeah. That was something else. That was the first time I ever saw you top. And it was just like, oh, my God. What is your favorite club or event that you've been as a couple so far? Definitely Tarpese in Atlanta. Yeah. It's our favorite club. It's great. Yeah. I know. Breakfast. I know. Buffet. That period. That's worth the entry fee right there. We are big fans. That's our home club. It really is what you make it there. Yeah. For sure. Secrets is fun. Yeah. But, man, it's a lot. It's exhausting. Yeah. Between the pool party during the day and then, like, camp. Yeah. And I feel the same way with hotel takeover and stuff. If you want a low-key, like, it could be a crazy night or it could be just you just hanging out, eating dinner. Date night. That could be whatever you want it to be. All right. What has been your most empowering moment being open about your sexuality and lifestyle? I don't want to answer for you. When you came out as being bi, all of the people that reached out and were like, oh my gosh, I wish I could do this. I wish I could be as strong as you or wish my wife was on board for that. I feel like that's just what you've told me about it. Mine's kind of the same. like when whether we're gonna be like at a lifestyle event or possibly like work with people or something like that and then all of a sudden the guy will message and be like hey like you know we're we're down with this if you want to and it's like uh yeah like today we're we're going to work in texas this weekend and like the guy was like what are you or i was asked like it's an mfm situation what are you okay with like because some people are not okay with like They're dicks touching, let's be honest. He was like, no, I'm good with this. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is great. We're going to work in Texas this weekend. And the guy was like, what are you? I always ask, it's an MFM situation. What are you okay with? Because some people are not okay with their dicks touching, let's be honest. I'm like, I'm good with this. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is great. Yeah. Seeing that, what is your favorite place that you've been to create content? I would say our favorite place, place that we, probably Tampa. I was going to say Miami. Oh, I forgot. Like we've been to expos in Miami, which is always, but that's because he likes Miami because his favorite video. of me with somebody I just that's just a small piece of it you got from definitely Florida for sure yeah no I can see that and then first time creating spicy contact together any special memory or awkward story it was it was in Atlanta yeah I was like I think I'm pretty sure I remember that being your first yeah it was in Atlanta it was not Yeah. My first was somebody else, but it was your first with somebody else. Yeah. That's the first time creating content and first time full swap. Yes. All in one, yeah. That's a lot. It was a lot. It was overwhelming, especially being in a house with all of those people, too, was overwhelming. But it was great. I feel like it was a great experience, and that great experience opened so many more doors for us, I guess you could say. Yeah. I was going to ask, are you going to talk about the Wish Mansion? That's just a memory. That's like a core memory. Pulling up, I'm like, oh, this house is great. And then Loki go back behind the nice house. You're in the garage. There was like nothing in there. There was like, old TVs worked. Ikea furniture was, the bed fell apart. We had the bunk beds. Everybody was like, we had the bunk beds downstairs and they had no electricity in the room. So it was, that was just a memory. It was like the size of a grocery store. It was different. There's a pool on the property, but we weren't allowed to use it. Yeah. No party. Oh, and the quiet hours are 10 p.m. We have a DJ, you guys. Yeah, it was a memory. We talk about that one all the time. That was like our first reel. That was intimidating, terrifying. Very nice. Not doing any content because we got so scared. It was new and it opened our eyes. Well, like we talked about this just a few days ago. You're going through like old, because it was like an anniversary around this time. Like it was like three years ago today type stuff. Or four years, however long ago it was. And you were like, I was terrified this entire time. And I didn't, I mean, we didn't really know everybody. We know them online, but we didn't really know them beforehand either. So it was like the first time really being in a house full of people that you didn't know. It was something, it was a memory. And then the next one, what is one thing you wish everyone knew about the lifestyle? That's not all about sex. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Please. Yes, that is not. For us, it's about the friendships. It's not about... If it happens, it happens. Yeah. Yeah. It's literally just about you being your most honest, authentic self and people accepting that. Yeah. And not everyone's going to love you and everyone has to, but you find the ones, you know, that you can be yourself around and those with people. That's what makes a lifestyle. And again, everyone's so nice. Everyone is so, like, for the most part, it is just a great group of people, no matter where you're at. It's really beautiful. And that is about it. We are about out of time. Thank you so much for being here. Where can all of our listeners find you? Let them know all the things coming up. What you got going on? Go ahead. nchotwife.com. So everything's at? Yep. And then your podcast is By The Way. It is. It's By The Way, P-I-The-Way. And on YouTube, you have to put 25. It's By The Way, 25. It's also an Apple podcast. Spotify as well. We'll have all of that linked below for all of our listeners and everything. We appreciate you being here. It's been a minute since we've seen you guys. It's good to see your faces. We're new forever, but barely get to hang out or talk. They were one of the original people that learned that we are horrible at group messages. Oh, yeah. They're the worst. They're the and we're the worst. But yes, thank you so much for being here and for being so open and all of your stuff that you're doing. You're doing amazing. I love watching it all. And we cheer you on all the time. We love seeing you guys growing and changing and love you guys. And thank you for being here. And as always, it's not that serious. Don't make it weird. Bye. Bye.