Mayhem8
Here are a couple examples:
January 21st - The monthly calendar shows 1 hot date. Click on the day, and 2 show up. 1 I can see because I meet the requirements, 1 I can’t see because I don’t.
January 24th- Calendar shows 1 hot date. Click on the day, and 2 dates show up, both I can’t see because I don’t fit the parameters.
The rest of the month is accurate.
The “fix” has completely messed things up.
For this to be a website to communicate with other like minded swingers, they sure do make communication extremely challenging.
I believe when you go to Hot Dates, it's showing you the dates for the selected (current) day. If you click on a different day, you'll see the dates for that date. Could that be the confusion around seeing different #'s of dates, or are you seeing a different # of dates for the same day?
Obviously, if you're seeing more people on any given day, it could just be new Hot Dates getting posted.
Mayhem8
You are absolutely correct about being able to game the system.
I did a lot of messing around with my profile just to see what kind of difference it makes. The only things that changed the number of hot dates for a particular day on the calendar are changing the search range or my location. Changing my age would, on a limited basis, open more hot dates that I could view for a particular day.
There are still dates that show 2 hot dates, but when you click on the date, 3 or 4 are on the list.
I think it was you that posted maybe people are fed up with the problems the system has, so they just don’t try anymore. That could very well be the reason that there are fewer overall dates posted.
Sorry for rambling.
Whether it be Hot Dates or the profile age range, a few people will always game the system.
A better fix would be to have people enter their birthday and let the system do the math. Of course people could always pick a different birthday, but again, there will always be some people that will game the system. I just see no point in giving people even more motivation to do so.
@Mayhem: That's the problem with enabling discriminators that exclude members in a system like a Hot Date. While they've enabled a search range since it was implemented rather than matching profile ranges between poster and viewer, it can't be fixed but rather needs to be eliminated completely, Otherwise viewers will try to game the system by altering their profile to fit the parameters of the poster. Right or wrong, it's human nature, so much so that Stevie Wonder could have seen what the results would be.
It's almost like they hired a relative to put together the app/website.
Correct DB. If someone posts a max age of 55 and you are 57, you will get the generic "You don't match the criteria" message and it will not show you their profile in Hot Dates.
Being that you went from 57 last week to 50 this week kind of proves my point about motivating people to say they are younger than they really are ;-)
The default for a Hot Date is 18-99 I believe, and that lets everyone see it so the poster can determine if there might be interest versus the system making that call.
Mayhem8
If I'm reading your post correctly, you are saying my age would not allow me to see hot dates posted by those who, in their profiles, are only looking for 55 and younger?
I thought the ages listed in the hot date posts were set by the post, instead of by the profile of whomever made the post.
It looks to me like most of the hot dates posted now have the 18-99 age range.
There are likely a couple of things going on. One is that people fed up with the changes are using the Hot Date feature less, or not at all.
The other thing I noticed is that your age is listed as 57. If you look at profiles in general, the vast majority of them have an upper age limit of 55. The combination of both of these things makes me surprised you're seeing as many Hot Dates as you are seeing.
Mayhem8
I'm noticing fewer overall on the calendar. On the old version, a Friday or Saturday in my area would almost always show 5+ Hot Dates, and when you hovered the cursor over the day, the first 5 would show. Click on the day and the list would show up. The ones that I wasn't a match for would say "Member xyz123 has blocked their hot date from your profile type". The rest were available for me to open.
With the "new and improved" version, it seems like there are never more than 2 or 3 per day on the calendar. But when you click on a particular day, sometimes it shows 1 or 2 more on the list, than the calendar shows. Also, the "You don't meet the criteria" message is on about 99% of the list. Much more than before the calendar format change.
I'm just thinking that the demographic change of hot date listings is not likely to change that dramatically overnight, and just happen to coincide with the change in the calendar format.
@DB - The new design allows people to post and enforce age limits for their Hot Dates. Are you not seeing them at all or are you seeing many where you fall outside of their age limits?
I was trying to figure out why SLS would show anything at all for dates where you don't meet their criteria, but perhaps this is to let you know that there are actually many more dates posted. It still seems this approach provides more motivation to lie about ones age and it really serves no useful purpose to show dates you don't qualify for.
For whatever reason, it seems to show about 1/2 as many dates as the previous version. I really find it hard to believe that the interest dropped so dramatically just because the design changed.
In a word, it's garbage.
"We had that functionality on the previous version, but it didn’t reset after you clicked on a profile."
Yup, plus you could hover over profiles.
The look is better and the functionality is way better than the first iteration of the "upgrade," but it's still cumbersome and not particularly user friendly.
as new users to the site I have not been impressed, we get a lot of You don't meet... and we have to refresh the page several times to get any listings (found that out by mistake). being in IT for years (not programming or coding) the site is as other users have posted. outdated
We had that functionality on the previous version, but it didn’t reset after you clicked on a profile.
Catchy,
The ability to look at dates outside of our area, and a month or more ahead, is what seems to work best for us.
We've used both, and had far better results with the old version. I think it's related to the hover/flyover issue, but also the other issues everyone else has mentioned. The new version is far less user-friendly, particularly if you're trying to view dates outside your home area, or past a week out, so much so we don't screw with it anymore.
We really didn’t use hotdates with the old format. I remember trying a couple times and it was super clunky. Again, maybe that was just a function of the platform I’m using.
Flyover doesn’t work on my iPad mini. I suspect it doesn’t work in the app either.
Yes Mayhem, our point #3 should have been to enable the flyover/hover of profiles on the Hot Date page.
It is better than it was when they first rolled it out but still doesn't convey as much info as the old format without having to do extra clicks. Would be nice if they could re-enable the ability to get info from hovering.
Also, not sure what the point is in displaying a hot date that basically just says that you do not meet their age or preference requirements. If they already know that, why show anything at all?
I don't mind the new format. We wish for two tweaks to it:
1) The ability to set a distance and a calendar view default so that we don't have to adjust the distance and calendar even time we search for a date or event.
2) That the distance and view would not default back to the original setting after we click on profiles or events, making it necessary to change the distance and view all over again.
I actually like the new Hotdates format. It works for me. I know that some folks have complained about there not being any hotdates listed in a densely populated area, but I just looked up the NYC area and I see 44 dates and 14 events for tonight.
In our local Louisville area, there are dates and events listed which we know are accurate, because we personally know the people that posted.
Yes, I know that the format is far from perfect. We should be able to make the default view something other than one week. The calendar should not reset every time we click on a profile or date and we forget to right-click.
However, in an SLS world where in the forums we have to initially hit Enter four times to break a paragraph, but only three times after that, and where my list of blocked profiles is found under "friends", I'm considering this a win.
Hot Date is no longer a working part of this site. We can’t even see hot dates for the following week. Needless to say the events being gone now too. Just horrible, but I guess as lifetime members what do our complaints matter?!?!
SLS has a Gazillion members.
Let's see if we can find 5 members the think the hot dates improvements are really an improvement.
