Are we missing the mark with our profile?

828MHJH - "...plan on going to some clubs/events/parties in the near future. We haven’t been to any yet as we had been a little intimidated by the thought of them, ..."

Totally get that. We were very nervous attending our first party. In hindsight, we don't really know why, just that we were. By the second time we went to the same venue, we were a bit more relaxed, but still had that nervous excitement for quite some time.

A LS Meet & Greet is a good way to break into LS events as there is no pressure to play. That's what we did, and we were STILL very nervous at our first M&G. This goes away with experience.

As for clubs and parties, some places are awful, some are great. Some places are great on some nights and awful on others. You may have to try a lot if places before you find one you like. I suggest you only go to couples only places at first, because you are not interested in single men and some of the places that allow single men stuff the place with single men because that make more money on them but it makes most of the women uncomfortable because most men are not civilized.
All of the experienced people at a club know that some people are new. Some will avoid you because you are new, others will show you around. Do not be afraid to refuse any offers by explaining you are new to this and scared to death. It is a perfectly acceptable response

Thank you all so much! We genuinely appreciate all of your feedback. We are going to make some adjustments to the text and let it rest. We want to come back with fresh eyes and see what we can do better. If you notice anything else please do not hesitate to let us know. We absolutely plan on going to some clubs/events/parties in the near future. We haven’t been to any yet as we had been a little intimidated by the thought of them, but after chatting with a few people about them we are very eager to check them out now. Thank you all so much! We appreciate you! M&J

Wow - much better!

MsMolly appears to have noticed the typos that need fixing. Reading your text out loud as if you've never seen it will help find awkward phrasing or punctuation problems. But generally you've done a great job of updating your text.

Be sure you're smiling even if you obscure your face in whatever photos you add - it affects everything in a photo in a positive manner.

You may still be disappointed by lack of responses but you've got a better chance now - have fun!

There you are!

Change your photos - which will definitely make people look at your profile as if you're new - as quickly as you can. Then clean up a few typos (it's couples plural in Looking For, if I'm reading the rest right, dirt bikes, and bonfire) and think about adding a fun or illuminating positive closer in Additional comments, because this is Marketing 101 and you never cede an opportunity to make a good impression.

Otherwise though? You've done a remarkable job. Best of luck!

Not sure what it looked like before, but it looks decent now and will be even better with a few decent pictures. You may (or may not) want to put some bounds on "We are all about doing whatever makes everyone happy and comfortable." Even though he lists as straight, a number of guys that are OK with Bi play do so as well, so this could be a little misleading.

You do detail more of what you're looking for in the Experience section, but since your second sentance here starts off with "Definitely looking for....", moving that to the top may be better. It's a critical piece of criteria, because little else matters if you aren't looking for what others are looking for and likely why "Looking For" is the first section.

Usually when people list weight as 0 it's because they are overweight. That is not the case here. I think you'll do better listing your typical weight, which I noticed you added.

As eluded to earlier, meeting people online can be a difficult way to meet. If you ever wanted to give yourselves a little jump start, you may want to consider looking for and attending a local party as this tends to be way more productive than finding people online. Doesn't need t be a regular thing if parties are not your style, but you can quickly meet and get a lot more prospective playmate contact info at parties vs online.

Good morning! We went through and made quite a few adjustments. We explored some other profiles that have been reviewed and took some inspiration as to what a better foundation could look like. We have not updated the photos as of yet, but that is in the works. If you wouldn’t mind looking our stuff over again and letting us know if this is a good template to work from, and any other pointers you might have. We definitely appreciate all of y’all’s help. Thanks! M&J

Yes - please come back and let us know when revised profile has been approved and we'll take another look.

Profile writing is a process and sometimes takes several iterations as well as time for better phrases to percolate up from the depths of your brain!

~Phoebert's Wife

Thank you so much goodgollymsmolly and phoebertandwife! Yes it is blunt, but sometimes we need that to get better. We really appreciate you both for your advice, and will have a new profile for your review soon! Thank you! ?? M&J

Hi. You've been warned about the bluntness (and I hope you've read other threads and found out what that looks like), so I'm just going to jump right in.

First, you might want to be more expansive with your desired age range. If you think 51 is too old, then raise the younger side so that it's 28-50, since it's a better look to use the older person as the middle.

Your tagline both misses the point of taglines - they're an invitation to open your profile and learn more about you - and displays a kind of passivity that isn't particularly attractive. If you're interested, don't just open your photos, message them. Instead, come up with a short, preferably fun option that you change periodically.

As far as your public photo, PAW is correct. Wanna list your weights as zero? Totally fine and I agree that it's a bullshit kind of metric, but in order to not scare people off do a well lit, cropped photo that shows the two of you full length in clothing that fits, looking as if you're really into one another. Which I assume you are, but you should also signal that visually.

Your text is interesting in that you don't even have a full sentence about who and what you're looking for, as if that doesn't really matter. Your description isn't quite as poverty stricken, but it still doesn't really give a great sense of you as either individuals or - more importantly - as a couple.

Fantasies, in contrast, is full of words. They aren't necessarily to the point - it's fine not to have fantasies, but why on earth would you include a sentence that is nothing but a negative - but there are a lot of them. Some of which could be more profitably used in the first section. Not the ones about what you aren't looking for - that's marital conversation, doesn't really make a ton of sense (people you get to know well enough to establish a lot of trust are actually a relationship, even if nobody falls in love), and suffers from wall o' text syndrome - but some of it. The part about who and what you're looking for, without what I've listed above, but more carefully and thoughtfully phrased.

In Additional comments, I'd have closed your profile at the first paragraph. Not only are you creating rules for others, you sound rigid. More rigid. You were already making that impression in the first three sections and just solidified it.

Not my idea of a good time and since your profile up until then isn't great, I'd be out. There are fun couples out there and you don't seem like you would be.

For the second paragraph, if you run an internet search on "Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510–2522" you will discover that you've accepted something as true that needed more examination. Also, people who emoji out their faces are probably not going to exact any penalties if someone does the thing they've told others not to do.

Other than that, once you've reworked your profile so that you sound friendlier and more fun than currently, when you send out an initial message, sure, go ahead and open your gallery if you like, but it's better to - assuming you aren't sending out canned messages without any sort of personalization - include one photo at the end of your message (you probably know, but just in case, click the little thumbnail to the left of the text box to bring up your gallery).

Good luck. I hope you make some changes and come back to see how they land.

I fully understand why you would want to block single males from contacting you, but when asking for advice I am still a guy. Married or single I am still a guy and can give advice on your profile.
I'm not arguing with you. If you do not want advice from single guys , that is fine with me and I wish you luck with your search.

Hopefully you've read other threads here and know what to expect - we're a bit opinionated and can be blunt. But we mean well and want to help you have the best experience possible.

Delete that statement at the very end. It's doubtful any of it is enforceable. And would you really prosecute? At best it makes you look gullible.

If you're going to insist on listing weight = zero then you can expect some people to pass you by. Having a nicely dressed, full-body picture as your default photo will help but some consider it an automatic "nope" and won't read any farther.

Your default photo has several distracting problems. Her being almost in the background (with an arm raised?) doesn't work well with him being in the extreme foreground. And the doorways/mirrors/art on wall or whatever is behind and between y'all isn't helping at all. But really - all I see is smiley faces over a poorly lit photo so it's essentially useless to me.

You're profile text is repetitious and very disorganized. I'd copy all the text into a word processor and then start editing. Move text around and add some info so you answer the question implied in each section header - Looking For is about the people you seek and how you like to interact; Description should be about the vanilla you - what makes you unique, things you might have in common with others; Experience/Fantasies should be about the sexy you - broad generalities are fine; Additional Comments is whatever doesn't fit the other categories. There's no need to repeat anything in your stats or noticeable in your photos. Once you're happy with your revised text (and have run a spell check/grammar check) then you can copy each section into your profile.

Online is a horrible way to find swingers - at best you can expect less than 20% response rate (and that includes the "no thanks" replies). But it's all some of us have. ;-)

Good luck, have fun and stay safe!

~Phoebert's Wife

Thank you, Ymichael14. Yes, we do have single males blocked as that is not what we are looking for at this time, and with the volume of less than ideal messages from single males in the past we will continue to keep that feature in place. We do however appreciate the reach out and consideration for help with our profile. Thank you again. M&J

You have single males blocked so I can't give you my opinion of your profile

So we have had our profile up for a bit, and it seems like we might be doing something wrong. We have sent out many greeting messages and have received almost zero responses. What are we doing wrong? We do have our main photo edited as we choose to remain discreet, but we open our photos to everyone we have sent a message out to. Is the wording really that bad? Please help if you can.