Sedition

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"Lol , that’s all ya have , looks like you lost !"

Again and for the last time.

What source would you find credible? Is it even possible for you to agree to a fact? Is it even possible to remove the fantasy from your head?

Until you answer those questions, I am not falling for your ankle-biting 2-year-old tactics.

Irondequoit, NY, Us

Well Mick, it’s here 2/22/2022. Big shit happening today. Think I’m gonna take the day off. Hunker in the basement. Eat some canned green beans from the summer of 20. I’ve got plenty of batteries. Got gas out back if needed for generators. Filled ten five gallon cans. The old kind. Not these new environmental friendly kind. I spill more gas with them then I do the old kind.

Since it didn’t happen at 2:22 this morning. I assume it’s going to be 2:22pm?

Danbury, CT, Us

Lol , that’s all ya have , looks like you lost !

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@Bonnie

"I’m wondering how long it going to take for EA to show me some statistics on Trumps followers and vaccines and the victims of Trumps fraud in NY ?"

I am wondering how long it will take you to tell me what would be credible in your eyes. Until then, it doesn't matter. You will just rub one out while screaming FAKE NEWS.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@DTH

"a border that is out of control and an I.C.E.’report that is over almost two months late" Is the border out of control? Meh.

pewresearch. org/fact-tank/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

Honestly, the immigration situation is much more than just a border. I don't feel like writing 6 full 2000 character posts about it. It has been fucked well before Biden and no congress has put together much of anything regarding immigration since Reagan.

"Now if you want to talk about a President in my lifetime who I thought was the absolute best, in spite of his sexual prowess, we can talk about Clinton anytime.""

Clinton was a wheeler dealer and Newt wanted to get shit done. McConnell is not a wheeler dealer and wants to win by doing nothing. McConnell's agenda is quite simple: Judges. He doesn't care about anything else.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@DTH

You are putting words into my mouth that I never uttered.

"This President is a year into his administration and you blame Trump for Biden’s inflation."

I did not blame Trump. I blamed Powell. I said Trump pushed him to go to negative rates. Powell fought back, but should have RAISED, not lowered.

"Let’s see, overstimulate the economy, what the hell did he think was going to happen. People had money they never had and they spent, spent, spent. "
Jr. sent stim checks. Obama sent stim checks. Trump sent stim checks. Biden sent stim checks. What is your point?

"Demand outpaced production (COVID - I am not going to shut down the county I am going to shut down virus - Joe Biden), shall we blame Trump for that too? ) day one he makes America dependent once again on foreign oil and gas prices have more than doubled in one yewae, yep that too is Trumps fault"

That is one helluva runon sentence there. Demand for certain items increased and for some items as well as services, they decreased. People being at home meant that people wanted to pimp their house out. People staying at home meant they were not going to the movies or bars. I don't know what you are trying to say. Businesses' take time to ramp up production to meet a significant supply in demand. As an example, when I was in the apparel business if we had a runaway hit for a product . . . we were kinda fucked. It was a bad problem to have. Why? Because there is NO idle factory to start with. If they are idle, they are out of business. The earliest I could get into a factory is 30 days on the FAST end, maybe 45. Then it would take about 30 days to make. Then it would take 30 days on the water. Then it would take about a week to get into the DCs and then a couple of days for the DCs to store. So I was now at 90 to 115 days before I had inventory in the store. This is how manufacturing works!

Ahhh the oil dependent bullshit. eia. gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=51338 There is an article about our importing of oil.

Read the previous paragraph I wrote. READ what YOU wrote. Demand is HIGH for products. Oil is not just gasoline. Oil is used for more than that. eia.
gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php

" I guess in your eyes. Biden’s exit plan (if he had one worth a shit) was a dismal failure, 10 dead, hundreds of Americans left behind, millions in equipment left to the enemy, but hey that too is Trump’s fault in your eyes "

Again . . . did I ever say that? Why do you feel compelled to tell me how I feel? You don't know. But seeing that you asked . . .

I am assuming you are talking about the withdrawal from Afghanistan. The deal signed by TRUMP. It is akin to a hurricane. I can tell you 7 days out to evacuate. I can tell you 5 days, 3 days, 1 day. I can tell you 4 hours before. I can't force you to leave. The people that stayed behind chose to do that. Millions in equipment left behind? YUP. We left our garbage. We left stuff that was NOT worth spending the money to transport back. Would you have preferred that we spend more than it is worth to bring it back? Hell, I bet you have no problem spending $50 a month to store golf clubs in a self storage unit when the clubs are worth $300.

Danbury, CT, Us

I’m wondering how long it going to take for EA to show me some statistics on Trumps followers and vaccines and the victims of Trumps fraud in NY ?

This President is a year into his administration and you blame Trump for Biden’s inflation. Let’s see, overstimulate the economy, what the hell did he think was going to happen. People had money they never had and they spent, spent, spent. Demand outpaced production (COVID - I am not going to shut down the county I am going to shut down virus - Joe Biden), shall we blame Trump for that too? ) day one he makes America dependent once again on foreign oil and gas prices have more than doubled in one yewae, yep that too is Trumps fault I guess in your eyes. Biden’s exit plan (if he had one worth a shit) was a dismal failure, 10 dead, hundreds of Americans left behind, millions in equipment left to the enemy, but hey that too is Trump’s fault in your eyes ….. a border that is out of control and an I.C.E.’report that is over almost two months late, but hey that too I must be Trump’s fault

Biden ripped a huge shaft in front of the Queen of England but that too must have been Trump’s fault.

See the trend……. Biden won’t admit to being responsible for anything, a typical lifetime politician that didn’t accomplish shit in his lifetime. As Obama said “ Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up”

Now if you want to talk about a President in my lifetime who I thought was the absolute best, in spite of his sexual prowess, we can talk about Clinton anytime.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"Erotic
If Biden shit in your yard you’d call it gold!"

Again . . .

Tell me the metric you want me to judge Biden on and I will give you an honest response.

Are you capable, if I do the same with Trump, of giving a subjective response?

Danbury, CT, Us

I would research the claims they have made , so far I haven’t seen anyone linked to the case in NY .

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"Name them please !"

And if I do, will you believe it or will you then go on and on like that 2 year old with your fingers in your ears.

Danbury, CT, Us

“Lenders., Insurers. , Creditors.”

Name them please !

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"Better standing in the world than Trump? Yes, he has."" That point is bullshit."

How is our relationship with the EU now compared to under Trump?

How is our relationship with other countries? I'd say our relationship with Russia is worse, NK the same, China, probably the same, Syria, the same, Israel, same, Iran, probably better, UAE/Saudi, et al in that region, better. France got pissed a little at us, but that seems to have waned over the military sale.

So is it bullshit? I realize it is subjective, but I don't think it is bullshit.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"Who’s the victim of the crime ? Have they stepped forward ? I’m surprised it hasn’t been leaked ."

Lenders.

Insurers.

Creditors.

Ever wonder why he was unable to BUY the Buffalo Bills?

White-collar crime is much different. There isn't blood. There isn't rape. There isn't murder.

But hey . . . Trump spent 25 million on his last white collar crime that he was charged with. OH WAIT . . . I thought no one came forward! ROFL.

Summerville, SC, Us

@ea, I'll go along with some of your points but ""
Better standing in the world than Trump? Yes, he has."" That point is bullshit.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

The Clintons have been contemporaneously investigated more than any other two humans in history.

Danbury, CT, Us

“Trump is being investigated to see if the acts that HE did, or orchestrated were illegal.”

Who’s the victim of the crime ? Have they stepped forward ? I’m surprised it hasn’t been leaked .

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"Hell you probably are in that 30 some odd percent who think Biden is doing a great job!"

What do you want to classify as doing a good job?

Better economic growth than Trump? Yes, he has.

Better job growth than Trump? Yes, he has.

Better standing in the world than Trump? Yes, he has.

Inflation? Honestly, I don't see that as his creation, nor did I see deflation as a Trump issue. I see this as a FED issue. But, I go back to Greenspan fucking things up and Bernake trying to fix the situation but doing it wayyyyyyyyyyy to fast. I suspect that the FED is going to do it again.

As you live in Florida, where I am from, you might understand this statement. "It is like turning a battleship around in the Intracoastal." The fed, under Bernake, went apeshit to get back to 5% fed funds rate from nearly 1% and did it fast. He didn't turn it around like that battleship . . . Powell, who felt a LOT of pressure from Trump to keep rates LOW, because low rates is like a turbocharger for an economy fucked up by keeping them too low too long. Powell should have started to raise the rates back in 2019.

In closing . . .

Trump is being investigated to see if the acts that HE did, or orchestrated were illegal. Other presidents didn't have acts that warranted an investigation. Lying is not relevant at all. Well, ok it is. If he lied about it, then it matters.

But to move the goal posts towards YOU . . .

Choose ANY president from FORD on that LIED to the level of Trump. I will not hold my breath.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

Ok, let's try this again . . . for the last time.

"I moved the goal post to point out your hatred to a man that you can’t see that a President is here for a season and the real detriments are career politicians."

You admit to moving the goalposts.

Hmm.

Career politicians. You know that is interesting because, as was often stated in The Princess Bride, you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. The average tenure for a house of representatives is 8.9 years. The average tenure for a senator is 11 years. Since the 1960s it has been about the same.

sgp.fas. org/crs/misc/R41545. pdf

"As you failed to comment on multiple times, tell me once again how any of the past living President and the current puppet in Chief have been investigated to the level that Trump has while in office and after leaving office."

There are two parts here. IN OFFICE? I'd probably say Nixon was right up there. I'd say Clinto was right up there. Trump if not number 1 is probably high up there. Since Nixon, we have had Ford/Carter/Reagan/Sr/Clinton/Jr/Obama/Trump. Amazingly, only the ones who were impeached or were going to be had these issues. HMM. Amazingly, Carter, Reagan, Sr, Jr, Obama didn't have an issue. Perhaps it was WARRANTED.

After office - no one is like Trump. Again . . . if he didn't do anything to warrant it, it would not be done. I know this goes against your perception, but there is not a group of prosecutors across the country using some secret encrypted app to communicate their nefarious plan to take down Trump. Trump is being investigated in GA for crimes as the president. Trump is being investigated in NY for crimes prior, during and after being president, not related to GA.

I BELIEVE and this is just an OPINION, that there probably is enough to bust him in GA and NY and possibly at the federal level. The issue is that no one wants to be first. Everyone wants to be 2nd or later. The first one will be the most scrutinized and the rest will be normalized. Let's see who has the COURAGE (like that steal of a phrase) to be a TRUE PATRIOT (again, same thing here) and press charges and THEN let the judicial system work.

Here, let me move the goal posts for you . . . If/when Trump is indicted in NY, what do you think will happen? Trump had FEDERAL powers. He is being charged with STATE issues. If/when Trump is indicted in GA, what do you think will happen? That one is interesting because the state has powers over voting. The Feds can't intervene against it. HOWEVER, the feds can then also go after him.

"You keep talking about Trump lying yet I say they all lie and you return once again about Trump lying"

AGAIN. I never said that they do not lie. I am saying that TRUMP is being investigated for FRAUD. I can't help you if you can't differentiate between lying and fraud. Here, let me help you, this is from Black's Legal Dictonary - "In cases of fraud, the defendant is being accused of tricking a person or organization into believing that something has a certain value when that defendant knows or should know that the item’s value is actually much less" Hmm. Sounds liek what I have been talking about.

"You are just another mouth-peace that regurgitates what the left leaning MSM talking points tell a their sheep." I am? This is news to me. Glad I have given a lot more information than is in the media about how things work and why I feel that Trump is in trouble. But ok, if you feel better about yourself by projecting something onto someone else, more power to you.

I moved the goal post to point out your hatred to a man that you can’t see that a President is here for a season and the real detriments are career politicians.

As you failed to comment on multiple times, tell me once again how any of the past living President and the current puppet in Chief have been investigated to the level that Trump has while in office and after leaving office.

You keep talking about Trump lying yet I say they all lie and you return once again about Trump lying

You are just another mouth-peace that regurgitates what the left leaning MSM talking points tell a their sheep.

Hell you probably are in that 30 some odd percent who think Biden is doing a great job!

Danbury, CT, Us

Just asking for you to show the facts behind your claim .

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"EA is this claim based on a study ? A poll ? Personal opinion? Or another fake news article?"

It does not matter what the response to that is. You will run around like a 2-year-old with your fingers in your ears screaming, "I can't hear you."

Danbury, CT, Us

“Trump did a horrendous job of getting has base to take them.“

EA is this claim based on a study ? A poll ? Personal opinion? Or another fake news article?

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@DTH

"see how bad the current President is let alone the do nothing Congress that can’t pass an annual budget on time, has been over twenty years in the making of Comprehensive Immigration Reform, is hell bent on investigation after investigation of each side at enormous tax payer expense
Trump was here for season, your anger is misplaced and should be directed at the career incompetent politicians who destroyed this nation long before Trump came along."

Wait . . .

NOW you are moving the goalposts again. Before it was post-presidency scrutiny, now it is the current president? WTF man.

Ok, let me move them some more.

What are the three presidents who have had the largest increase in federal debt as in relation to the size of the economy?

Come on now . . .

This should have some meaning.

Bush Jr and Lincoln did more than #3, yes, he was number 3, TRUMP.

So want to talk taxpayer expense. What do you think is more 'enormous,' this investigation or the debt? If you fail that question, you are really in a bromance.

And just incase you are not aware . . .

CONGRESS is not equal to the PRESIDENT. Yes, I know Trump wanted it to be that way, but it isn't.

I have studied and read history. This nation is just as fucked up today as it was 50 years, 100 years ago and 200 years ago. Americans are really good at one thing: Bitching. If I ask you to tell me a time that America was GREAT, I can probably find 30 things that will show it was not. You are stuck on perception, I am stuck on reality.