RUSSIAN COLLUSION

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

Here is the bottom line for me...

If the present evidence against Trump and his cronies were instead against Hillary, Bill, or Barack, do you think DNLB, perfect and the rest would be approaching it in the same manner?

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

OK DNL

Let's try this again.

Strozok was NOT the lead investigator for Mueller. That is what you stated. He was one of MANY investigators for Mueller.

Read it again.

It states he was the lead investigator for the FBI in 2016. THEN Mueller came on board, and then Mueller put together a team of investigators. NOWHERE did he state he was the lead investigator for Mueller. You are ASSUMING that he just slid over and was Mueller's lead investigator. NOPE.

This is what you wrote, "Peter Strzok was the lead investigator in the Mueller team until he was fired for blatantly demonstrating that his politics overrode his professionalism."

Again . . . where does Wikileaks state he was Mueller's lead investigator? It doesn't. In fact, if you even think about it, would Mueller have a 'lead' investigator? Isn't that really himself? Didn't Mueller hire out roughly a dozen other prosecutors with different specialties? Didn't those prosecutors use work that was done, then subpoena, then get more info and then either prosecute or not?

So you are way off man. Way off. Put down Fox for 30 minutes and stop believing that Hillary traffics kids out of a pizza shop.

sardukarVeteran
New York, NY

Of course it wont say anything about indictment.. That's why Barr is put there.. He clearly stated that president can obstruct justice..and you cant read and review 400 page complex investigation in 48h even if you r on speed..

DNLBVeteran
Pensacola, FL, Us

Sar: "Barr wrote 4 page OpEd that sitting president can not be indicted"

If he did it wasn't in the 4-page summary regarding the Mueller report. The summary was released about 48 hours after receiving the report, not "in 24 hours" and said nothing whatsoever about not indicting a sitting President. I can cut & paste the entire thing if you like, it's in the public domain, I actually read it. I'm curious, do you work for CNN?

The Leftists won't be happy regardless, they demand the immediate release of the report knowing that to do so would be illegal, howl at the time he says will take to provide a redacted report and then simultaneously question whether he gave his summary too quickly. They aren't willing to do the job they were elected to do, instead focusing on slowing down the actual recovery of our damaged country by resisting every action of the Whitehouse. It's pathetic that people allow their elected representatives to act like petulant children and even celebrate it as a political victory.

DNLBVeteran
Pensacola, FL, Us

It says precisely what I stated. If you're going to call someone a liar you should at least read the subject matter. Cut & paste simple:

"Peter Paul Strzok II (/str?k/, like struck; born March 7, 1970)[1] is a former United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent.[2][3][4] Strzok was the Chief of the Counterespionage Section and led the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email server.[5][4][6]

Strzok rose to become the Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division, the second-highest position in that division. He also led the FBI's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[4][7][8][9]

In June and July 2017, Strzok worked on Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation into any links or coordination between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Russian government.[10][7][9] Mueller removed Strzok from the Russia investigation when Mueller became aware of criticisms of Trump contained in personal text messages exchanged between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who were having an extramarital affair.[11][12] Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein defended Mueller's response to the text messages."

"Strzok was the Chief of the Counterespionage Section and led the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email server.[5][4][6]"
"He also led the FBI's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[4][7][8][9]"

Read that again, slowly. I said he was the "lead investigator", you have repeatedly attempted to imply that he was in a lessor role. You are being intentionally obtuse and simply attempting to argue an incorrect point until I refuse to respond any longer, as you usually do.

sardukarVeteran
New York, NY

@DNLB in June 2018, Barr sent an unsolicited, 20-page memo to the Department of Justice arguing that Mueller's "obstruction theory is fatally misconceived." "There is no legal prohibition against the President's acting on a matter in which he has a personal stake." Barr also called the obstruction investigation “asinine” and warned that the special counsel risks “taking on the look of an entirely political operation to overthrow the president.” - Yet the fucker issued a 4 page review of more than 400 pages report in 24h after the report was released....

hedo2forusVeteran
Ellsworth, ME

erotica, a coup not a military coup. And yes, a coup has been attempted.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@DNL

You know if you are going to state something to be true and then give a source where you say it says so, you might want to check and make sure it states what you claim.

Wikipedia does not state what you claim regard Strozk, If anything, it supports my statement.

It also points out that I was wrong, that he was on the case for a VERY short period of time. I thought it was a couple of months, but according to wikipedia, he was brought on and removed in July.

DNLBVeteran
Pensacola, FL, Us

Barr said nothing whatsoever about not indicting a sitting President, in fact he said exactly the opposite at his confirmation. You simply made that up, like most of the crap you post.

DNLBVeteran
Pensacola, FL, Us

You're completely wrong. Strzok was the lead investigator for both the Clinton email server investigation and the special counsel headed by Bob Mueller. It's even on Wikipedia for crying out loud.

sardukarVeteran
New York, NY

"Peter Strzok was the lead investigator in the Mueller team until he was fired for blatantly demonstrating that his politics overrode his professionalism." - Barr wrote 4 page OpEd that sitting president can not be indicted..demonstrating that his politics overrode his professionalism, but that is OK now.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

HAVING

You do know that you can keep playing the RINO card all you want. Eventually, you will have a party that encompasses about 5% of the US.

But as you are now quoting your leader like a good lemming. You should realize that coup is not what has occurred. Last I checked . . . the military didn't try to push trump out. Last I checked . . . nothing illegal was done.

You know for a group that loves to toss out the term snowflake as a way to define someone who is not tough, this group of republicans are the biggest bunch of snowflakes there are.

Thornton, CO, Us

EROTICA, "Mueller is a Republican" So was McCain and others. They are known as R I N O's. Payback is going to be a bitch. Tight ass holes in jail will be no longer. If not the death sentence it will be life in jail. Trump is not going to let them get away with it. Would you let them get away with it if you, your family and friends were attacked that way in an attempted COUP against you?.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@DNL

This is where you always go off the rails. "Peter Strzok was the lead investigator in the Mueller team until he was fired for blatantly demonstrating that his politics overrode his professionalism."

Let me try and clean that up to correct things for you.

Peter Strzok was one of many investigators on the Mueller team. He was removed from the team when the context of the texts between himself and his GF could portray a bias. He was on the team for about 3 months. He was a carryover from the initial Russia investigation.

And now, let me quote Strzok himself discussing his being relieved, " Mueller absolutely wanted to run an investigation that was not only independent but presented the appearance of independence, and the concern was that these texts might be construed otherwise. And that was the substance of it."

That is a massive difference from what you wrote.

And here you go . . . you do know that Mueller is a Republican . . .right? You do know that he was in charge of the FBI under BUSH, jr. and half of Obama's term. Right?

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

Strzok was involved in the Mueller investigation for less than 1/3 the time it was operable.

"A comprehensive review in February 2018 of Strzok's messages by The Wall Street Journal concluded that "texts critical of Mr. Trump represent a fraction of the roughly 7,000 messages, which stretch across 384 pages and show no evidence of a conspiracy against Mr. Trump"."

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

"To say that the main characters for the majority of the life of the investigators are "Republican" to insinuate they were somehow favorable to Trump is a vulgar lie."

LOL.

And, of course, the converse is equally true.

DNLBVeteran
Pensacola, FL, Us

Not grasping at anything whatsoever, merely pointing out the ridiculousness of your statement. Peter Strzok was the lead investigator in the Mueller team until he was fired for blatantly demonstrating that his politics overrode his professionalism. His girlfriend... well, just fuck. Comey has admitted to illegally leaking information concerning the investigation. To say that the main characters for the majority of the life of the investigators are "Republican" to insinuate they were somehow favorable to Trump is a vulgar lie.

There's no way you typed that with a straight face.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

Comey is a registered Republican, as are Rosenstein, Sessions, McCabe, and Barr.

Strok and Page have not been involved in this investigation for well over a year.

You are grasping at straws.

Thornton, CO, Us

DEMOCRATS, "don't wish for something too strongly, you may get it".
When the full redacted and unredacted MUELLER REPORT comes out Democrats will be beaten into submission. It will show the corruption, covert effort to have a coup against President Trump and their TREASON. YES, TREASON. It takes two or more conspirators for it to be TREASON, and it is. After the DOJ and AG do the investigation there will be perk walks of top prominent Democrats.

DNLBVeteran
Pensacola, FL, Us

"A political weapon completely run by Republicans"

Obviously. Strzok, Page, Comey...... All Republicans, right?

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

A political weapon completely run by Republicans.

LOL

I got this bridge...

DNLBVeteran
Pensacola, FL, Us

What nobody wants to admit is that the Mueller investigation was used as a political weapon, from which the mainstream media publicly called the POTUS a liar, criminal and thief and accused him of treason numerous times, and the result was not a single indictment of any American for collusion with Russia or obstruction of justice, the actual focus of the investigation. And now it's being shown that the entire justification for the special counsel was based on lies for political purposes by people who are now denouncing the results of the investigation. You couldn't make this shit up. Whether you like Trump or not, how the fuck can anyone support this?

BTW, Stephan Colbert is a comedian, and not really a good one, not a meaningful person to gain insight from IMO.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

You expect us to read your drivel twice?

That's asking a lot...

Thornton, CO, Us

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday mocked U.S. special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of Kremlin interference in the 2016 presidential election, saying "a mountain gave birth to a mouse."

Hockessin, DE

Anybody re-read my opening statement of this thread lately? Old Putie now really has proof of our lunaticy. He really is the one who started this thread, and has laughed at the resulting discourse ever since. Nevertheless he'll never beat our Democracy and our Capital Free Enterprise system, despite the Socialists among us with their Goofy Green Revolution and Venezuelan style Socialistic Belief systems. What a bunch of Wackos they are. We really do need to teach more Basic Economics in our Public schools, and do it ASAP. BULLSHT always sounds good to the defuses among us, because they don't understand basic economics.