2024 Election

I will stipulate that Republicans are much better at messaging than Democrats.

I honestly disagree. Dems are quite good at floating an idea out there and then turning it into a reality. Look at a very recent example. "The reason Harris lost is because we hate women".

Total BULLSHIT! But the thought was sold to millions as reality.

The dems problem in my opinion is that you just didn't know when to back off. As I have said numerous times. This unrelenting assault against Trump got fuckin old. Nobody payed attention any more. Right or wrong doesn't matter. It just became white noise in the background.

To add to that. I believe it raised a few eyebrows. People started questioning the fervor in the dems attention towards Trump as being less than transparent.

@SN: you need to reread American history. Especially from 1771-1783...
Violence ensures peace.

think this encapsulates in a nutshell the difference between the two groups on here. One wants to have debates, argue their case, put forward evidence, etc, to come to an agreement on what is best for this country.

The other side just wants to threaten violence if they don't get their way.

That points out the actual problem.... without the 2nd the government would revoke the 1st...

You believe the government obeys the rules out of the goodness of their heart... in reality it's the fact they don't have a monopoly on violence. Besides..... it's the left that led the summer of love.... that kinda defeats your point.

The founding fathers knew what they were doing...

"As far as keeping quiet, that statement goes against American ideals. Exercising your First Amendment rights keeps different ways of thinking out there and it keeps elected officials on their toes" - @slow

So does the Second Amendment.... - @marion

I think this encapsulates in a nutshell the difference between the two groups on here. One wants to have debates, argue their case, put forward evidence, etc, to come to an agreement on what is best for this country.

The other side just wants to threaten violence if they don't get their way.

Gee.

@tbr...What you heard is not what Democrats were saying. What you heard is Fox News and the rest of the right wing media telling you what Democrats were saying.

More than half of what I heard/read came from HERE. It came from you. Gumby. Window. 8. And several other left wingers right here. Don't blame fox news. I read a daily dose of "The View" every day in these forums.

"Then we got all the "illegals are great, trans is great, economy is great, climate control is great, windmills are great, solar is great, abortion is great, gun control is great, on and on."

LOL.

What you heard is not what Democrats were saying. What you heard is Fox News and the rest of the right wing media telling you what Democrats were saying.

I will stipulate that Republicans are much better at messaging than Democrats.

The Republicans craft their message for people that don't really pay attention, like you. They craft their message for people who have no critical thinking skills, like Mickey.

I get it. You think that everything can be solved simply. You all bought into Trump's assertion that he can stop the Ukraine war in 24 hours. Gaza in 24 hours. That grocery prices and gas prices will magically go down due to the force of his personality.

The world doesn't work like that...

Im a half step away from putting your posts through Flesch-Kincaid.

Then you can run and hide like your little bottom feeding buddies.

Such TOUGHNESS lol.

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Actually if you consider the steadily declining rate of intelligence in Americans? Makes more sense.

You should reread what you write. You’re actually saying criminals should be in charge of the country. Brilliant.

Racist

So I had an afternoon working in the basement with news going on in the background. Stop and watch now and then. Something that occurred to me with the news and reading posts in here from the left side of the isle.

You people just don't get it. You have every excuse in the book why you lost this election except for what I consider to be the real reason. "Trumps a felon, He's a liar, He's a grifter, etc. etc. etc." "why/how could you vote for that?" We've been hammered with that question for quite some time now.

Why/how could people vote for him? (Because we don't buy into your leftist bullshit) You guys lost it all! That should tell you something.

That in my opinion is the reason you LOST IT ALL. (pres, house, senate) The American people as a majority, just don't buy the bullshit. You guys went after Trump so hard and nonstop that most just started ignoring it. (boy that cried wolf)

Then we got all the "illegals are great, trans is great, economy is great, climate control is great, windmills are great, solar is great, abortion is great, gun control is great, on and on.

Seems that the majority of Americans disagree. Otherwise the left wouldn't have "LOST IT ALL"

As far as keeping quiet, that statement goes against American ideals. Exercising your First Amendment rights keeps different ways of thinking out there and it keeps elected officials on their toes

So does the Second Amendment....

"Apparently a large number of Americans more than sympathize with RFK, they like him.
To take a quote from 4 years ago, "democracy has spoken, it's time for you to be quiet". I can't remember who said that, but I remember thinking that person was actually right."

I don't know but if Americans are mostly positive to RFKJr, I suspect that many don't know his biography. As more of his history comes out, I believe his support will dissipate.

As far as keeping quiet, that statement goes against American ideals. Exercising your First Amendment rights keeps different ways of thinking out there and it keeps elected officials on their toes.

“"Outrage" is a typical leftist tactic to dismiss valid issues. Mischaracterize the opposition and you can ignore them.”

LOL

Dunning-Kruger runs strong with this one...

If you were concerned about the environment, you would start here. However, your party is the party of "Drill, baby, Drill" which is not exactly friendly to the environment.

If you cared about people in other countries, you wouldn't be supporting Putin or Bibi. You wouldn't have started wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

So spare me your fake outrage and start walking the walk...

FUN.. she would do same with our money.. waste it just like her campaign!

Real friends people who believe do not need to be paid!

Bunch of fakes, liars, thieves, socialist people!

“"Outrage" is a typical leftist tactic to dismiss valid issues. Mischaracterize the opposition and you can ignore them.”

Anyone who retorts to a post, “Go fuck your mother” is not being mischaracterized with the description of outrage.

Nor would it be a mischaracterization to state you have the maturity level of a jr high student. Who really isn’t as intelligent as they think.

But hey, you be you

“Mischaracterize the opposition and you can ignore them.”

Absolute zero mischaracterization. You’re picking one specific industry and pointing out environmental issues and worker safety. If those issues were important to you you would be addressing all environmental and worker safety issues. Not just one industry.

Your politics are blinding you.

“"Outrage" is a typical leftist tactic to dismiss valid issues. ”

As is woke.

What is your point?

You think you’re right, there fore you are? Lmfao.

Apparently a large number of Americans more than sympathize with RFK, they like him.

To take a quote from 4 years ago, "democracy has spoken, it's time for you to be quiet". I can't remember who said that, but I remember thinking that person was actually right.

I remember thinking: you got what you wanted, let's see if you want what you get. I reckon the same is true now. The next 4 years will either be the rise of America from division and self victimism or it will be the fall of an empire. Either way, the nation is going to be very different.

" the dnc still dont get it"

You're right. The DNC is composed of partisans, most of whom are not aware of the needs and desires of regular people. Of course the RNC is very much the same. But I don't blame Pelosi or anyone else letting people know about the brain damaged RFK Jr. who has never had to live like normal people. I sympathize with him. I know he's had plenty of rough times, including, as a teenager, having his father murdered. But he epitomizes the label of "weird" and has no business as HHS secretary.

"Outrage" is a typical leftist tactic to dismiss valid issues. Mischaracterize the opposition and you can ignore them.

Intellectual dishonesty and cowardice of the highest degree.

And to further prove his stupidity, he dismisses his whataboutism by furthering his whataboutism.

Pathetic.

Nope the dnc still dont get it . A long time ago I answered an online questionnaire . I didn’t realize I would get dozens of emails from the dnc begging me for money ….The election is over and I still get emails like can you sign Kamala Harrises thank you card for fighting for democracy that we are losing bla bla bla . And than a push for Hakeem Jefferies ….There is no democrat party like you think , just a bunch of thieves , money launderers and idiots. . Look at Nancy Pelosi supposedly she had the dnc spend 30 million to smear RFKjr.

I just wonder.... how much the DNC regrets blocking RFK's run to be their candidate on the ticket. I mean.... as a candidate he had a shot. As an enemy he has proven a nightmare..

I think when he backed DJT publicly it pulled the independent voters over.

“ Helluv with his pathetic whataboutism”

I will ask you the same question I asked your brother DTJ. What part of can it be ignored do you not understand?

I will add another question. What part of these issues need to be addressed. Do you not not understand?

Go shout from the highest mountain top about EV and environmental impacts. Your outrage is faux. You don’t give a fuck about any other country and its workers. If you did? You would be walking around naked, shoeless without a phone to call anyone.

My shit party?

LOL

You've got the guy who wears diapers.

tbrmskss, your shit party is the one of the "current thing". But all you can do is project.

We get it.

You're pitiful.