2024 Election

Personally, if I could get a bulletproof jacket like Wick's, I'd shell out a ducat or two.

[quote=windowShopping7][quote=mayhem8][quote=funfor2houston]I think money to Ukraine has stopped . That war is going to end soon.[/quote]I thought this was an interesting prediction from 407 days ago. I guess "soon" is relative here ;-)

I came here to see if I could find why people voted for Trump in the first place, but there is no easy way to wade through all of this info to answer that question.

Things I had heard in the past were -

• He's not a politician

• He understands and cares about the average American

• He'll run the government like a business the way it should be run

• He's going to focus on America first and not get us into any foreign wars (Yes, I realize technically we aren't in a war yet, but that seems like hair splitting at this point)

• He's going to bring down the federal deficit

...and for those where it was a major consideration for them, he will do something about illegal immigrants.

The last bullet was the only thing that turned out to be true, but polls show a higher % of people feel Trump has gone too far.

I do have a number of friends that voted for him and for the rare times we discuss politics, just about all have said they regretted that decision, and even more so the further we get into his term. Not very scientific but he at least anecdotally has lost support from what I can see.

At the time, he was seen by many (enough to get him elected) as the better of the 2 choices based on the above criteria and probably others, but one can't help but wonder how many fucked up things it will take before others question their choice?

I do realize that some never will stop supporting him regardless of what he does. Just wondering what other criteria is there that people that support him think he's doing well with, or is it still just a case where you feel the alternative choice would have been worse still?

I'd say there isn't much people can do about it, but with the midterms coming up, that's not completely true.[/quote]Did you catch Noem being questioned by senators yet? They gave some examples and numbers of the abuses.[/quote]Ugh sorry. I responded in the wrong location. Too many windows open.

[quote=yourluvrman][quote=bonnieandclydect]It’s not a war , it’s a special operation.[/quote]

Or as they say in the John Wick universe,... It's a 'skirmish'.[/quote]Does this mean we're going back to the gold standard?

Granted, the Wick-verse economy is a bit odd.

While I don't think a hotel room is worth one gold coin, it's a helluva deal for disappearing a body cleanly.

[quote=bonnieandclydect]It’s not a war , it’s a special operation.[/quote]

Or as they say in the John Wick universe,... It's a 'skirmish'.

It’s not a war , it’s a special operation.

[quote=mayhem8][quote=funfor2houston]I think money to Ukraine has stopped . That war is going to end soon.[/quote]I thought this was an interesting prediction from 407 days ago. I guess "soon" is relative here ;-)

I came here to see if I could find why people voted for Trump in the first place, but there is no easy way to wade through all of this info to answer that question.

Things I had heard in the past were -

• He's not a politician

• He understands and cares about the average American

• He'll run the government like a business the way it should be run

• He's going to focus on America first and not get us into any foreign wars (Yes, I realize technically we aren't in a war yet, but that seems like hair splitting at this point)

• He's going to bring down the federal deficit

...and for those where it was a major consideration for them, he will do something about illegal immigrants.

The last bullet was the only thing that turned out to be true, but polls show a higher % of people feel Trump has gone too far.

I do have a number of friends that voted for him and for the rare times we discuss politics, just about all have said they regretted that decision, and even more so the further we get into his term. Not very scientific but he at least anecdotally has lost support from what I can see.

At the time, he was seen by many (enough to get him elected) as the better of the 2 choices based on the above criteria and probably others, but one can't help but wonder how many fucked up things it will take before others question their choice?

I do realize that some never will stop supporting him regardless of what he does. Just wondering what other criteria is there that people that support him think he's doing well with, or is it still just a case where you feel the alternative choice would have been worse still?

I'd say there isn't much people can do about it, but with the midterms coming up, that's not completely true.[/quote]Boy , missed that .we didn’t stop the money and the war didn’t end …

[quote=mayhem8][quote=funfor2houston]I think money to Ukraine has stopped . That war is going to end soon.[/quote]I thought this was an interesting prediction from 407 days ago. I guess "soon" is relative here ;-)

I came here to see if I could find why people voted for Trump in the first place, but there is no easy way to wade through all of this info to answer that question.

Things I had heard in the past were -

• He's not a politician

• He understands and cares about the average American

• He'll run the government like a business the way it should be run

• He's going to focus on America first and not get us into any foreign wars (Yes, I realize technically we aren't in a war yet, but that seems like hair splitting at this point)

• He's going to bring down the federal deficit

...and for those where it was a major consideration for them, he will do something about illegal immigrants.

The last bullet was the only thing that turned out to be true, but polls show a higher % of people feel Trump has gone too far.

I do have a number of friends that voted for him and for the rare times we discuss politics, just about all have said they regretted that decision, and even more so the further we get into his term. Not very scientific but he at least anecdotally has lost support from what I can see.

At the time, he was seen by many (enough to get him elected) as the better of the 2 choices based on the above criteria and probably others, but one can't help but wonder how many fucked up things it will take before others question their choice?

I do realize that some never will stop supporting him regardless of what he does. Just wondering what other criteria is there that people that support him think he's doing well with, or is it still just a case where you feel the alternative choice would have been worse still?

I'd say there isn't much people can do about it, but with the midterms coming up, that's not completely true.[/quote]Did you catch Noem being questioned by senators yet? They gave some examples and numbers of the abuses.

“* He'll run the government like a business the way it should be run”

One of his businesses?

Is there a date yet for the first appearance in Bankruptcy Court?

[quote=funfor2houston]I think money to Ukraine has stopped . That war is going to end soon.[/quote]I thought this was an interesting prediction from 407 days ago. I guess "soon" is relative here ;-)

I came here to see if I could find why people voted for Trump in the first place, but there is no easy way to wade through all of this info to answer that question.

Things I had heard in the past were -

• He's not a politician

• He understands and cares about the average American

• He'll run the government like a business the way it should be run

• He's going to focus on America first and not get us into any foreign wars (Yes, I realize technically we aren't in a war yet, but that seems like hair splitting at this point)

• He's going to bring down the federal deficit

...and for those where it was a major consideration for them, he will do something about illegal immigrants.

The last bullet was the only thing that turned out to be true, but polls show a higher % of people feel Trump has gone too far.

I do have a number of friends that voted for him and for the rare times we discuss politics, just about all have said they regretted that decision, and even more so the further we get into his term. Not very scientific but he at least anecdotally has lost support from what I can see.

At the time, he was seen by many (enough to get him elected) as the better of the 2 choices based on the above criteria and probably others, but one can't help but wonder how many fucked up things it will take before others question their choice?

I do realize that some never will stop supporting him regardless of what he does. Just wondering what other criteria is there that people that support him think he's doing well with, or is it still just a case where you feel the alternative choice would have been worse still?

I'd say there isn't much people can do about it, but with the midterms coming up, that's not completely true.

Trump got rid of the commander of the Coast Guard today . Said she spent too much time on DEI and not enough on the border and she had cost over runs that she could not explain. …People are being held accountable.

One of the executive orders signed stops all foreign aid for 90 days, except for Egypt, Jordan and Israel. We have signed treaties with those countries that supercede executive orders.

I think money to Ukraine has stopped . That war is going to end soon.

I know.

Neither of those places are in my jurisdiction.

I'm sure you do.

No sense prosecuting people who commit assault and battery on LEOs doing their job on Federal property when they can prosecute someone for possessing a joint in the Grand Canyon.

We lock them up every day...

"but use infers dealing"

LOL

Infer all you want. Meanwhile, prove that the medical marijuana possessors/users on Federal land in AL are all dangerous dealers and/or traffickers of a Schedule 1 narcotic who pose a risk to public safety and national security.

I'll fix it.... over 8K pardons. Including, drug dealers, murderers, child rapists, armed robbers & mostly peaceful people who were rightfully convicted of possession of a schedule 1 narcotic under federal law.

6500 people convicted of possession of a schedule 1 narcotic. Dealer* might be strong language, but use infers dealing. Almost all end users of narcotics also deal at some level.

Yes Marion, I looked at the link you presented BEFORE I did a little research and made my post. I couldn't come up with a number for rapists and drug dealers that constituted a "vast majority" of the 8,064 figure you presented.

I know, math is hard.

8,064-6,500=1,564

6,500>1,500

6,500/8,064=.81

.81 is 81%

Which means that 81% "pardoned" by Biden were not " just rapists and drug dealers".

But it's possible that I don't understand what the term "vast majority" means in the context you present it.

And.... if you click the link https://ww w.justice.gov /pardon/pardons-granted-president-joseph-biden-2021-present

Hard core trafficking and murderers.

"8064 pardons."

and...

"Seen a reference to Biden. Haven't chased it, but supposedly he granted that many. The vast majority were just rapists and drug dealers."

If you chase Proclomation 10467, you shouild find that in October 2022, Biden effectively pardoned 6,500 people for marijuana use and possession on Federal Lands and in the District of Columbia.

federalregister. gov/documents/2022/10/12/2022-22262/granting-pardon-for-the-offense-of-simple-possession-of-marijuana

Hope this helps.

https://www .justice .gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-joseph-biden-2021-present

Seen a reference to Biden. Haven't chased it, but supposedly he granted that many. The vast majority were just rapists and drug dealers.

Whaaaaaaat….., is that the J - 6 hostages.