Visual stimuli on not?

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I absolutely would be aroused. Certain other things can trigger arousal like braids, pigtails... eye color. No rhyme or reason just how my f’d up brain works.

This conversation has morphed from does visual stimuli arouse you or not, to a preference conversation.

So for those that have a preference per se, aka, the girl next door, can you just see a picture, clothed or not, of that girl and get aroused?

I get it, we all have preferences. I tend to call them weaknesses :) I like tall women. I like redheads. I like Asian women. People that know me; know that I have told my wife that if I find a 6' red-headed Asian, she's outta here! We had an SF that we played with for a while. She was 5'4" a natural redhead with curls, no freckles. She said I was doing it all wrong. She said, "You fuck me. You fuck your 6'1" wife. We just need to find you an Asian woman to fuck as well." She was pretty smart :) Now, if I find a tall woman, do I get aroused without talking to her? No, but I am drawn to her. Now, if I find a redhead, do I get aroused without talking to her? No, but I am drawn to her. Same with the Asian woman.

For me, at parties, we will always head towards the taller people first. It is something that I learned that I never ever realized before. My wife really disliked going to clubs and having to spend the night bending down, ducking to listen to a 5'2" woman. She said her neck would wind up hurting the next day from always bending down to listen. So because of that, we migrate to tall women first. It also did not help that one time, when we were at a convention, the couple next door in the hotel, the woman was 4'10" We guys wanted to get a picture of them next to each other. My wife said she felt like a freak on a leash. I didn't realize I was being stupid! I don't do that anymore.

I have met women in the lifestyle whose jobs were interesting. We have met rocket scientists, professional volleyball players, small business owners, marketers, nurses, teachers, cops, lawyers, and all points in between. In that group have been some women that are just incredible to talk to and some that . . . no thanks! Fortunately, the only woman we have met that had Minnie Mouse on helium voice was a vanilla friend's wife.

Not that there is a specific "look" to swingers in general, some woman just REALLY don't look the part, and I actually find that sexy if they are reasonably attractive.

On the flip side, there are girls in porn that can get airtight (and then some) without batting an eyelash. Those girls used to turn me on a lot more when that sort of porn was newer to me. I still like seeing that sort of play, but it is way more visually stimulating for me when the girl comes across as an amateur rather than a pro.

lol@HomeDepot!

That is so spot on!

~Allen

I think of it as more of a spectrum for myself and a matrix for the women I'm attracted to.

As far as the spectrum, I am much father toward the non visual end of the spectrum when it comes to the type of women who end up really pushing the right buttons in my cockpit.

When it comes to a matrix think of the Hot/Crazy matrix only a Hot/Sexy sexy matrix. In this matrix I would tend to favor women above, not below the Hot/Sexy line (you may want to google the hot/crazy matrix to refresh your math skills). My preferences would exclude almost any woman below a 5 or 6 on the sensual-sexy axis, and would include quite a few 3s and 4s on the hot-looks axis, provided those women were a 7 or above on the sensual-sexy axis. So I'm definitely in the brain as the largest sex organ camp.

I have certainly changed my room scanning protocol over the years when it comes to a club or party with my partner. I used to look for the most attractive possible couples and look for more or less equally attractive male/female pairs. I now tend discount the most attractive couples (what we refer to as the "ridiculously hot") due to a high if not perfect correlation with shallowness, stand offishness, and a predisposition for those folks only being interested in equally hot play prospects. Not that we avoid them, but life is short. I also tend to take a much longer look at the women to see how their looks tickle my fancy. Then I usually take a second look. I'm sure I've said before that we have repeatedly found women to tend much hotter than appearance would suggest in our experience and men to be just the opposite (potatoes as my sweetheart calls them: bland starchy and zero spice). The lifestyle seems to bring out the sensual in women.

I have found also myself looking at my sexiest and most sexually compatible play partners more than once and wondering at the fact that they probably wouldn't turn my head if I saw them at Home Depot. The overall result has been that I tend to get a lot more aroused at Home Depot these days and it takes longer to find what I came in for...

888 - Google "girl next door" then click on the Images tab. Pretty much most of those work for me. I think you were talking about "gilf next door". Hell, some of those work for me too ;-)

One of the girls next door wears flip flops, senior knee poly shorts, with a big ass shoulder Boulder holder showing outside the wife beater top.

That look works for you guys, huh?

Haha!

~Allen

Mayhem I agree. With me it’s a specific look. I love the girl next door look.

I would go one further. I can watch what most would consider very attractive women engaged in porn and not really have it do anything for me. There is a specific look that does it for me, and I can't really describe it. I just know it when I see it.

I have interacted (verbally) with attractive women that didn't get me excited. I am far from picky, but there is just a certain combination that does it more than others. Sometimes a woman that most consider very average will really do it for me. I don't necessarily need a connection for that to happen.

One visual that ALWAYS does it for me is seeing the Mrs play with and enjoy someone. Was over a friends and they had porn on in the background and....nothing. However, when the Mrs started playing on the couch with the male half of this couple, it was instant arousal.

Stupid is relative

We once had a waitress at Hooters tel is the Earth shattering fact that pickles (we were ordering fried pickles) were actually cucumbers. We nodded politely. After she left, Izzy said,” Well it’s not like they hired her for her brain.”

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“ We both could care less what someone’s mind is like. There isn’t much intellectual conversation going on when you fuck. Personality plays a very little part.”

No matter how earth shattering hot anyone’s lady may be, I do hold a higher standard than most and refuse to fuck stupid.

~Allen

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@Erotica - don’t be jelly sometimes it’s just a curse...

Fokkers

And that is how we are 'wired' differently :)

As a member of the male group, you are not right or wrong nor am I. However, we are right for ourselves.

If I go back and just look at pictures of women, clothed or not, movement in my dick to the upwards position is near nil. To me, there are some extremely gorgeous women that still do not illicit that out of me. As a few examples, Debbie Harry for the video Heart of Glass. OMG, such a pretty face. Nope, I am not sporting wood.

Back in 2001, we were at a party for St. Patty's day in DC. It was about 12 couples. The hosts tried to start a conversation and asked us, going around the room, to pick 3 or so people who you thought were beautiful. It was interesting to hear all the responses. Most of the responses you got were movie stars. Then they came to me. I said, "Milla Jovovich, Paulina Porzikova, Elle MacPherson, Stephanie Seymour, Brandy Ledford." The room went silent. People were like, "Who the fuck . . ." People had heard of Elle MacPherson, but the rest, nope. When I pointed out that they probably knew of Stephanie Seymour through the guns and roses video, they went . . . ahhh.

My takeaway from that discussion was that people's perception of beauty and how they reacted to them was different. This conversation, to me, is revisiting that conversation. I am envious of you. I can't stare at a woman clothed or not, and get an erection. Even at 15 years old, that was not going to happen. Perhaps it is what has guided me in coining a rant that I use. Sex is simple. Everyone and anyone can do it. What makes life interesting is what you do before and after sex.

Again . . . I am jelly. I wish I could be like you and just sport wood immediately! For me though, like I mentioned, give me the five minutes of conversation. I'll know then!

Never ever thought I’d post these words, I 100% agree with the fokker.

One night at a club this rather not attractive woman kept following us around, kept flirting with us. She came out and asked if we wanted to go to a room. We said no thank you. There was a woman with her tits hanging out asking me to fuck her and I couldn’t get hard.
If you pull out pictures from Playboy, will my dick get hard? 99.999% of the time it will. Again I look at the LS as a ‘buffet’ if you will. I don’t care how good if tastes, if it’s not presented attractively I will just pass on by. Why when we go out we always try to look our best.
Now as to your question on Helium Minnie, if she is attractive, don’t care if her moans sound like a hyena.
Everyone says that they won’t take one for the team, but that is usually because one of the 4 doesn’t find someone attractive.

One night at a club this rather not attractive woman kept following us around, kept flirting with us. She came out and asked if we wanted to go to a room. We said no thank you. There was a woman with her tits hanging out asking me to fuck her and I couldn’t get hard.
If you pull out pictures from Playboy, will my dick get hard? 99.999% of the time it will. Again I look at the LS as a ‘buffet’ if you will. I don’t care how good if tastes, if it’s not presented attractively I will just pass on by. Why when we go out we always try to look our best.
Now as to your question on Helium Minnie, if she is attractive, don’t care if her moans sound like a hyena.
Everyone says that they won’t take one for the team, but that is usually because one of the 4 doesn’t find someone attractive.

I do believe that everyone has a baseline of physical attraction. For some, that means a pulse. For some, that means 8% body fat. For some, that means an age line.

About 20 years ago, we were at Miami Velvet. They had a private group area upstairs. They had a security guard on a stool making sure couples went in. On the outside, about 6' from him was a couch. On the couch was a naked woman, probably in her late 50s early 60s. She was about 5'4" and about 225. She looked like life had taken her through the wringer quite a few times. In my eyes and others, she was not attractive, physically. She was just laying there, naked, playing with herself. A single guy would come up to the door, try to get in and the security guard would tell the guy, no. She would look at the single guy and just wave at him. She got fucked a good ten times that night. Those were guys whose agenda aligned with hers. She just wanted dick and they just wanted pussy. My wife asked me if I would ever do that. Without pause, I said no. I am not driven by my dick and putting it places to the point that I will do anyone to accomplish that. Perhaps this is why I'd probably be terrible in a truly free for all orgy :)

The oldest woman I have had sex with was in her late 70s. Honestly, I guessed her to be in her 50s. Every time I would see her at places, she would always have these elaborate attire. She was from Louisianna. She had a little bit of a reputation of dressing as a southern belle. Physically she did nothing for me. One day, I just started talking to her. OMFG! What a WOMAN. In 10 minutes of spending time with her talking, I was envisioning taking her into another room. The woman exuded womanhood, to me. Her mannerisms, her attitude, her poise, everything about her, I found sexy. Twenty minutes later, we were having sex. After we finished, we got on some weird subjects and she told me how old she was. Didn't matter to me at all. I was thoroughly enamored with how she acted.

So yes, we are different. Some require that beauty aspect and are driven by beauty. Some require the mental aspect. Hopefully, people find what they are looking for. There is no right or wrong, just what works for you and the other party involved.

I guess, a simple question to ask the guys. If I were to take pictures out of Playboy/Penthouse and put them in front of you, would you be able to get hard? Would you require thinking about the woman and what you would do to her to get hard? What would happen if she started talking to you and she sounded like Minnie Mouse on helium. Would you still be able to get or stay hard?

If you look like Shrek you better have a charming personality.

Like I said my opinion, yours may differ.

"I think for anyone to say that their attraction isn’t based on looks is honestly not being honest with themselves."

Eh. You know we're all different, right? And that women aren't men? And that when you're a solo woman, your comfort zone isn't the same as that of a woman who is half of a couple? Plus a thousand other things.

The sum of all those differences does indeed sometimes come up "attraction isn't based on looks."

I spent a year going to a club at least three times a month and saying yes to everything and everyone, plus I'm naturally curious and rarely said no even after that experiment. I am pretty confident in saying that in almost every circumstance I find people attractive based on things other than their looks and that I needn't feel any sort of initial attraction in order to have a really good time.

I guess many of you here are on a higher plain of self enlightenment than I.

I need some level of visual stimuli, the wife needs some level but probably lower than my level. We both could care less what someone’s mind is like. There isn’t much intellectual conversation going on when you fuck. Personality plays a very little part.
I think it was said before, but we aren’t looking for people to be fill ins for us. We just want some ridiculously raunchy crazy times.

I do get what everyone is saying though, but my experiences show otherwise. I have said if for years on here, that Isabella and I don’t ‘pic’ well. Anyone looking through our picture galleries will e meh. Meet us a club/event different story. My sarcastic side can grate but get laughs. Isabella’s ‘quiet till you come at her’ side intrigues, but will that lead to the couples that ‘stimulate’ us wanting to play? Usually not they just want to hang around for the good time. The ones who approach are the ones we are physically not attracted to. We are not perfect, but we aren’t ‘schlubby’ either.

I think for anyone to say that their attraction isn’t based on looks is honestly not being honest with themselves.

My opinion, yours may differ...

You are not an anomaly at all. Well, if you are, then so am I :)

Pictures are two-dimensional. Staring at a naked woman will do near nothing for me sexually.

Give me 5 minutes of talking to a woman and then the connection is there or it is not. Why? Because humans are three-dimensional.

I am NOT obsessed with a 'perfect' woman. One who is just 'drawn bad.' (In my best Jessica Rabbit) I don't care if the woman is a size 0 or a size 16. I don't care if the woman is 4'10 or 6'4. I don't care if the woman is an A or GGG cup. I don't care if the woman is pear-shaped, rectangular-shaped, pyramid-shaped, or whatever. It is all about the mental aspect.

Sure, there is a basic line of physical attraction that has to be hit, but that line is relatively low for me. Fortunately for me, my wife is pretty close to me. Her line is higher up than mine though.

What is interesting is she is apt to reject based on looks. I am apt to reject based on what comes out of the woman's mouth. She can blank out the guy's words, I can't blank out the woman's words.