Pet Peeves

My wife can get naked in no time flat. Me it takes a couple especially this time of year. If we are on the boat, I can beat her as I drop my suit and ready to go

BTW - Sometimes "taking the time to get naked..." for a woman is 3 secs. In warm weather, the Mrs wears only a sun dress. One article of clothing and she is naked. The thought of that alone is pretty hot.

GGMM - "...so fucking a clothed guy is hot. Not a stranger, because the motive is likely to be not to my liking, ..."

In this case, these are strangers as far as I can tell. Stranger sex in and of itself can be a lot of fun. Usually when I see this, it's a case of a second or third guy fucking a woman after the first guy is done.

I do get the "fucking with clothes on" thing, but that is usually both parties doing that. I have even been asked to bend a wife over the kitchen island and lift up her mini-skirt and fuck her wearing that and her crotchless fishnets. This was pre-party play and I did just pull my cock out, but if playing with a women that took the time to get totally naked at a party, I will do the same for her unless I know she wanted otherwise.

For us, this was similar to watching porn where the guys wear ski masks. It just takes away from the whole thing, but it is cool to hear other people's perspectives on this. I just saw it as lazy/odd before others weighed in on it. Just goes to show that you're never too old to learn new things.

"so fucking a clothed guy is hot."

Nice!

"Not a stranger, because the motive is likely to be not to my liking"

Well - shit.

Part of the appeal to me of clothed sex is like this animalistic aspect - like- i don't know much right now, but I really want to fuck you. Such things work best with people you do not know well- if at all.

I had something like this this past spring in a room.. somewhere. In the space of 15 minutes I had semi-clothed sex with two women before getting kicked out of the room for both women squirting everywhere and wrecking the room. But holy shit I knew nothing of either of them. And that's OK.

I have a near-fetish for textiles, so fucking a clothed guy is hot. Not a stranger, because the motive is likely to be not to my liking, but it's something I am up for.

You don't always have to be naked to have fun.

I used to fantasize about wearing front-lacing corsets and full skirts at home when we retired.

Think of the possibilities for re-enacting all those trashy, historical romances I've read...

Just being honest here...

I find it very hot to have mostly clothed sex. Whipping my cock out and a woman lifting up her skirt and us fucking? It can be hot as hell.

What is it with these guys that won't take any clothes off to fuck a women? I see this a fair amount at parties where the guy just pulls his cock out to get a BJ or fuck a woman that is completely naked. Hard to believe they are embarrased or shy if engaging in open room play.

Now imagine if your dick can keep growing like that, What fun would life be!

Of course it's shallow.

But this is a shallow pursuit, isn't it?

A lot of women seriously find it a turnoff if the man is shorter than her. A lot of men find it a turnoff if the woman is taller.

Me being 6'1 rarely causes the situation to come up. I have had a couple of women very close to my height, and one tell me I wasn't tall enough (although maybe she just didn't like me and that somehow made it easier).

But that wasn't always the case. I'm one of those rare people who has been both a shorter man and a taller man in their adulthood. I was 5'5 at 16, 5'7 at 18, 5'9 at 19, 5'11 at 22, 6' at 30, and now I'm 6'1.

I never get the big thing with height. Why is taller more attractive? Isn't that shallow? And yet so many swingers specify minimum height requirements.

How about a new tipic for "pet peeves"? MY biggest pet peeve is people who really DON'T read profiles...they just look at the pictures. I look at pictures, but then carefully READ their profiles to see if we fit their preferences. My "last straw" was yesterday. I CLEARLY state that she and I BOTH dislike BIG...we ONLY like slender. I ALSO clearly state we will NEVER meet outside of lifestyle events, clubs, parties. Yet...every day, we are contacted by HUGE people, asking to meet for drinks or dinner. Yesterday...a fellow about the size of a planet, asked to meet at a hotel so he could fuck her! So...what about our preferences, Mr. Uranus, do you not understand!!!???

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~rabbit~

Fair enough, and apologies. If she was working young, in the 80s, yeah -- the 6' beanstalk craze hadn't started yet then.

She modeled in the 80s. She was asked on numerous occasions to lie and put down 5'11. She was not embarrassed about her height and would put 6'1" on some modeling cards. The calls for work dropped drastically. At the time, the models were all 5'9 ish, ala Cindy Crawford. She towered over the other models. It created an issue.

NOW? Shit, things are different. Karle Kloss is a smidgeon taller. There are a LOT of 6' models out there.

Oh well.

"She is 5' 13.5" tall!"

You mean 6'1"? Which was A-OK in the early 90s?

6' tall? Ahhh . . . a shorty :)

My wife is also taller than I am. She is 5' 13.5" tall!

What is interesting is that her height NOW would be OK in the modeling world. When she was in that arena, she was too tall. Argh.

She did a Toni Tenille haircut ONCE. She let her hairdresser do what he wanted to do. She hated it and has never ever let it get that short again.

Now, because of menopause and hot flashes, she understands women who cut their hair short.

Yep, really 6' tall when she's barefoot. Yes, she's taller than I am. I have to be careful when she wears heels- it's all fun and games until I get a nipple in the eye. Not that I'd complain about getting an eyeful of boobies. She has magnificent nipples...

Sorry, pictures are only for those we intend to meet. Someone once stole her picture, then used it while attempting to hook up with playmates of ours, claiming it was his other half. That's how we found out the pic was stolen. There was only 1 place someone could have gotten that picture.

BTW, she has short hair and she's been known to go to craft shows. She's had short hair for as long as I've known her.

Just putting that last part out there for anyone wants to pet her peeve.

RE: Good, is the lady really 6ft tall, sweet, you should post a few pics....Too bad people in the Twin Cities dress like crap...thought the upper midwest gals tried to dress well...Of course 7 months of cold keeps them covered up....I was in Utah last week, the best dressed and best looking ladies were the Morman's with their long hair and dresses...nice to see....Mary Jo....

Hillary, is that you?

" I honestly feel bad for the generation who were taught to put makeup on just to get the mail."

I feel bad for the people who go to Walmart with too much makeup and wearing, well, whatever the hell it is they wear. Yogurt pants with a brown stain running down the inner thigh for an example. Makeup ain't covering that shit. Literally.

Unfortunately they breed, so there will be another generation taught to do that.

I was thinking more in the line of clothing in general.....A little makeup takes a few minutes.........Hair. it is what it is......I do like seeing those high school and college girls with such long hair in pony tails when playing basketball, softball, and volleyball.....all that hair flying around.....I think they really enjoy their becoming an attractive woman...Mary Jo

I think early 30s, we're done wearing makeup just to get the mail, let alone the grocery store. We're raising kids, taking care of the house and many working on their career. Most women I know in vanilla and swinger life, still get dressed up when going out on the town. We're not as worried about what other people think of us Zero fucks. My hair and skin is not worth satisfying other people's desire for women to look more feminine.

Some times it's less than 30 minutes, sometimes it's more. But on the daily? Nope. I live my life for me. I wasn't placed here to please other's with a more feminine look. I honestly feel bad for the generation who were taught to put makeup on just to get the mail.

VAbeach

Sounds like you are describing the results of an archeological excavation.