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We've been tested. Really. REALLY???

Phoenix, AZ, Us

Oh, NewArrivals! I wasn't talking about you (although the advice was directed at you and anyone else who wondered how to navigate sex with strangers and safety). I was addressing Mayhem and being rude about Ncal, who is a complete nutter, which would be fine, but he keeps littering the forum threads with terrible and even dangerous misinformation.

I'm so sorry you thought I was calling you a fake.

Good golly:

his entire post (including, I suspect, the part about being a swinger) is a big old ball of rancid, shit covered nonsense.

Now why would you attack like that? Especially since the word "sincere" was in my post and I meant it.

I was simply asking -- as an uninformed newbie -- for important info to be shared.

The ultimate irony: you did offered good info worth sharing. I thank you for that.

Must be tough, though, to be a miserable sob. Still, I'll forgive if you will.

Phoenix, AZ, Us

Ncal isn't smart enough to troll.

For anyone foolish enough to pay any heed, his entire post (including, I suspect, the part about being a swinger) is a big old ball of rancid, shit covered nonsense.

You can get genital warts if you use a condom. If you do get genital warts, do not freeze them off with something you can buy in a drugstore. Do see your doctor. Cold sores in the mouth (usually but not always an outbreak of HSV 1) can most certainly be transferred to someone else's genitals and will likely result in future herpes outbreaks occurring in those exact areas and nobody cares if it's "cold sores" or "genital herpes" if you have an outbreak on your business. Condoms are useful, but they do not provide 100% insurance against STIs. In addition, even if you use condoms, the preferred area for herpes outbreaks is roughly the lower trunk to the upper thighs. Plus, oral sex on women, unless you're ready with a dental dam or a fairly large square of Saran wrap, while somewhat less likely to infect you, is not a hazard free activity. And I've known a fairly large number of people who have gotten an STI through swinging.

mayhem8Veteran
Auburn, NH, Us

ncal: Wow!!! I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt but that last post was either such an obvious troll attempt or, worse yet, you actually believed what you wrote. Either way, the suggestion to simply block you gained a lot of cred after that last post.

Prior to internet searches, such disinformation could have actually been dangerous but luckily anyone can do a Google search these days.

ncalcoupleVeteran
Las Vegas, NV, Us

New we have been swingers for over twenty years, Just relax and have fun, use condoms and you will be fine. We are very active playing with tourists from all over the world here in Vegas and have never had a problem with anything or any type of VD.

If you do not use a condom you have a chance of getting genital warts, which you can freeze off with the stuff you buy in the store. Cold sores in the mouth do not infect your cock or pussy.

Have fun and don't worry. We have never known anyone over those twenty years that have gotten any kind of VD when a condom was used.

Bartlett, TN, Us

Welcome to the forums.

Best protection may be picky selection so much harder to adhere to at sexy parties and resorts. Keen spidey senses are in order.

One thought that comes to mind would be to watch or talk to couples you may be interested in 'playing' with orally and if you find they consistently use condoms during intercourse (many do not) they are likely your best bets for oral play. I have no idea how you'd go about this but it is what came to mind. Enjoy Enjoy Enjoy wishing you two many munch and mingles.

Thank you Tramp. Kind of you to share the comprehensive thoughts.
And I have since discovered the other thread on this, per your suggestion.

And I was in error. Cold sores are Herpes 1. Genital herpes = Herpes 2.

And reading more on the subject, I am reminded that HPPV -- human papaloma -- is also in the mix.
It's not a simple picture.

Alpharetta, GA

First, welcome to the forums.

Second, nearly everyone has experienced cold sores; hence, nearly everyone has herpes II. So, here's the question. Would you asked for papers on someone you dated in the vanilla world before you'd kiss them? I'm guessing that you wouldn't.

Third, if someone were to show you a set of papers, what do you now know? Since there is no system-wide format, you'd have no idea that the report is legit.

Furthermore, even if it's legit, you'd have to know that the person in question has been quarantined since the collection date, not to mention the fact that that some things might not show up for months.

In the end, a health certificate proves little to you. Getting tested on a regular basis does much more for the person getting the test (in terms of awareness) than these tests could ever do for you, the prospective new partner.

Take a look through the Safe Sex thread here and you'll find that this horse has been beaten to death...many times.

There are many ways you can minimize your risks, but they will nonetheless always be there in this sort of activity.

Best wishes,

Tramp

Newbies. She and I -- married couple -- are visiting a lifestyle resort in coming weeks for the first time and are wondering:

Do you bring "papers" to such a venue and require to see those of any play prospects? (So much oral seems to be going on in these circles. No protection, it seems. Much as we'd like to go down to our heart's content, we do wonder. Is there some special protection in the galaxy for swingers who like to munch and suck? We're both, btw, real good at it :)

Disclaimer: we both have occasional cold sores. Rare outbreaks and we know when they are there. That's Herpes 2. Tested and certified. Ir oral off limits for us?

Sincere questions here and thanks for any input.