We've been tested. Really. REALLY???

Yep, Thanks.

With all of your in depth research did you happen to notice the post from profile review where he states he deleted several posts?

Hope that clears things up for you.

~S~

I think someone is referring to phantom posts ? As I told someone else, I went back 100 posts (all I was allowed) and I did not see what started all this .

Kibbles the post is there, but who was talking about putting peanut butter on their clit and getting an orgasm as their dog licked it off??

nutcal, I have never once confused HPV in all its multitude of forms with HSV, I or II. I was scolding you for having done so. It appears you have deleted the post since then, or it has gotten buried in all the doggie posts since then, though.

People fucking dogs is SICK !!!! I mean cats don't even fuck dogs... I am with Tramp let's lighten the mood and talk Trumpitics : )

Hey, let's lighten the mood and change the subject to, say...politics.

Tramp

Since when? Oh, this. Some of us are as serious as a fucking heart attack about kids and dogs.

Since when has ANYTHING in here resulted in a truely "serious conversation"..lol

I hear what you're sayin', Mayhem...I really do.

But I just can't bring myself to attempt a serious conversation on the matter. I can't see that any one trying to have such would have a leg to stand on.

As for not so serious...

Trust me when I say that there are mulritudes of side-splitting remarks that I'd like to make, but...

1) It's common knowledge 'round here that what ole Tramp thinks to be funny serves often just to piss folks off, and

2) Profile review has said, "ahem...enough said."

I'm gonna be a prudent Tramp on this one and follow that advice. ;^D

Tramp

I agree with Good golly 100%. One of the things you meet as a swinger is all kinds of people with all kinds of different childhoods. I met one woman who was rapped, but not violently, by her father. He used his daughter to replace his wife that got addicted to heroin. when the daughter was twelve.

It was sad to se such a beautiful young woman messed up about herself and how she looked and her relationships with men and the world.. She was very very sexual. After six months or so of seeing the Mrs. and I interacted and lived she learned what a good relationship was and found a good man that she is now happily married to with two kids.

What is just as bad is parents who beat their kids, not spank but beat their kids violently.

I met another woman who was raised by hippies who lived in a school bus in the woods, She grew up in an old school bus in the woods.

Tramp:

I can understand how a girl could get naked and let a dog have his way with her and do so thinking they are giving a dog what it wants.

Saying I understand that is not saying I am trying to "justify" it.
It's not right, but not because of legalities. Too many things have been legal that shouldn't have been and vice versa.

I'm sorry if I don't place this in the same category as say, tying a dog outside in the winter to the point of frostbite or worse. Otherwise we are in violent agreement, so please look for someone else to crucify in your crusade.

"<off topic alert....again>"

Oh look, another wanna be hall monitor! You may notice that 99% of these threads get derailed so if it bothers you so, perhaps you should just unsubscribe from them so you don't have a stroke.

Your justification for animal abuse is they show interest in humping your leg? So if you pull your dick out in front of a 3 year old child and they reach for it, that would be consent for you to molest the child as well? Since dogs operate at the functional level of a toddler, that is a pretty accurate comparison.

There is no slippery slope. If you want to suck a dick or take it in the ass or enjoy golden showers, go for it. Child abuse and animal abuse are clearly defined hard boundaries for civilized people.

~S~

@mayhem, here's the real slippery slope: Adults who were molested as children often report having felt pleasure. For many, that is a source of shame. For their molesters, it is occasionally a justification.

A dog's inclination to hump legs, bathrobes, anything that will stand still, and a human body's pleasurable response to genital stimulation are not things that indicate pets and children have the ability to consent. Because they fucking don't.

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I've had dogs all my life. As kids if we were wrestling/horsing around on all fours our un-fixed male dog would try to hump you. Of course we wouldn't let him, but my experience is that is not unusual behavior for male dogs, especially ones that weren't fixed.

You can argue that it's just dominant behavior, but the dog was clearly aroused when this attempted humping happened. I have little doubt where that would have led if someone were inclined to let a dog continue. You certainly wouldn't have to "tell" a dog in this case to hump you and I can guarantee most dogs would rather do that than get a bath if given a choice ;-)

As for legalities, anal sex is also illegal in some states. Maybe we shouldn't talk about that here either or label people that do that as sick and twisted if we find that behavior unsavory. I'm not arguing in favor of bestiality. I'm saying it's a slippery slope to start name calling for behavior that you personally don't like if in fact no abuse is taking place. I'm sure there are more than enough labels/name for all of us from vanilla folks about what we do here without adding to that from fellow lifestylers.

And one more thing...

I am not typically a condemning person, but I'm likely as judgmental as any you'll ever meet. That's directed towards the below post that states that the poster doesn't "pass judgement" on those involved in capricious, criminal conduct.

I do not make fun of anyone's kink or fetish, even though I am fairly tame in terms of what I look to get involved with. But, make no mistake, I make judgements every moment of every single one of my Trampy days. It's just that I don't usually condemn the acts of others.

I draw the line in many areas though. Two of those areas involve anything that makes a victim out of anyone or anything who/that can't make choices for themselves or who are otherwise incapable of enforcing the choices that they make.

Report 'em all, I say.

Tramp

Ditto, and here, here.

Tramp

@BS: We have and will continue to report posts condoning animal or child abuse. Don't like it? We don't really care, it's our choice. We also have and will continue to report racist posts which is how nutcal came into this conversation.

@Mayhem: I'm sorry you don't see the difference between free will and animal abuse. I suggest you educate yourself on the topic.

Thank you for intervening Wayne. We agree that there is no place on SLS for illegal acts involving children or animals.

Kibbles you are getting your bugs mixed up. Warts are removed by freezing, its the only effective way to do so. Herpes Simplex i dont know if Bio Tec has come up with a treatment yet.

What is scary is the bugs like vaginal yeast and Mersa are getting more and more resistant to meds. This is part of the problem with allowing so much immigration of the poor from Asia. This is where a lot of the bugs like the flu start.

@Profile Review: What if you see beastiality in someone’s profile? There was a couple near us that included it and we were horrified.

I didn’t see the offending post you removed but thank you for your fast actions.

Annie

Ncal, you are stupid af if you think HSV-1 and HSV-2 are even remotely like HPV of any of its 100+ types. For someone who supposedly does scientific research I'm going to have to call you on b******* here.

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In an effort to get back on track, we've been in the LS since Feb 2014 and I've never come across anyone "in person" that has asked to see our test papers. I have seen some profiles where people said they wanted to see them before they would play. I think the idea behind that is, at best, not well thought out.

I suspect that people that adamant about seeing papers probably want to play bareback. That's not something we'd do anyway. As mentioned a number of times, you have no idea what a person has done since the test date and you're test results are questionable as soon as you play with someone.

I get a full screening every physical and found out that there is no HPV test for males. Unless you present with genital warts or something, a guy can be a HPV carrier and not even know it and pass what is considered a full STD screen any time they're tested.

Condoms can take some getting used to and they are not a fail safe, but they at least offer some protection not only for you, but the people you play with. I also quickly found out that there are different sized condoms that make getting them on easier and some definitely allow more "feel" than others. For some guys they can actually be a good thing because the little bit of desensitization they offer means they may be able to fuck longer before they pop ;-)

OP, sorry for the threadjack. I hope you've been able to glean some useful information.
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On the list of things I didn't think I'd be doing today: explaining why dogs can't consent (my dogs will do what I tell them to do even when they really don't like it, hence frequent baths) and why pretending something isn't happening because you have arranged not to see it is a bad strategy.

Really, people? I'm all for being open minded, but kids and dogs are completely NG.

back to topic. If you show up at our door with a test certificate that says you are clean, it better have a time/date stamp on it. The piece of paper is only good until your next adventure. You will still be required to wear a condom just incase you stopped for a quickie on the way to our place.