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i'm russ and i'm ashley and this is hot couple chronicles happy wednesday wednesday here we are again thanks for coming back those of you that came back we appreciate that we appreciate it a whole lot so much yes so yeah this week we're going to do the great debate i'm going to talk about different statements and different we have some different questions rapid fire questions stuff just statements about the lifestyle that i've gathered on social media and i've asked on our stories and gotten some answers from so yeah just pretty much misconceptions and myths and different things to debate about and then yeah that should be fun we're trying all news all the things yeah we're trying to try it out i mean last week we interviewed bobby yeah we're trying to do some interviews we're trying to do some games keep it light-hearted and then like some more educational i thought it was a really good conversation we had with it went so fast yeah like i didn't really fast like i had so many questions yeah like after i was done i was like I should have asked this we need to do a part 2 just because we in retrospect we're like oh I should have asked this or I should have asked that I hate interviewing is not our strongest suit and it's definitely a learned thing it definitely is like skill that you craft I'm hoping we get better and i feel like it is getting better i like the fact that we just talk to people like it's not so much it's not so much an interview really it's definitely like we're just having a conversation with somebody i go into it with like we need to have like a plan and outline some questions and then every single time it's like i don't even know i'm trying to like look through all of our stuff and like try to find where we are and it goes off course and then because you never know what they're gonna say and that's the part that's like terrifying so i'm never sure what's happening yeah i need i need the outline You're not supposed to say that.
You're off track. Yeah. We used to like even send that to them too. Yeah. We used to send them. Yeah. i need the outline you're supposed to say we're off track yeah yeah we used to like even send that to them too yeah we used to send them the questions and then we're like that's silly i appreciate it when podcasts do it for me so that's why i always send everybody all the questions ahead of time and if they ask i will but like we just decided like not to do that because i feel like it's way more authentic it's more get a more genuine response, but you don't have time to think about it.
Me, no, I'm always like, please send me everything you're going to say to me so I know what's happening next, because I would like that. I mean, if they ask, I will give it to them, but I do like the whole, they're not sure what we're going to do with it. Like, we have a general topic, but that's it. Yeah. All we know, so.
I don know so i don't hate that but if those i don't know interviewing is not our strong suit we're definitely learning so thank you for being patient with us because it's not easy i thought it would just be so much easier i don't know i feel like transition yeah the transitioning part yeah we can sit there and talk about something but then it's like oh we need to have a subject yeah we have a purpose here yeah the time limit thing really sucks because i i'm like dang it the last interview i'm like we're gonna have to do them again we're just like oh every time we're like well we'll just have to have one again and continue the story because i always like the next day i'm like dang it i should have got more into this or that and I should have asked this question.
It's fine. It's all right. We'll get better. Definitely. As we do it. I mean, this is only episode 15. Yeah. Yeah, we're still learning. Still figuring this out. We don't know what we're doing here. It sounds like a lot when you say 15, but it's only 15 weeks. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.
Like we're one, but not but not even we're squeezing us in between all like our real life stuff that's that's and that's crazy thanksgiving we had thanksgiving now it's wednesday so it'd be a week ago almost and yeah we had a good thanksgiving yeah i tried to ruin the turkey oh yes yes yeah yeah he decided to put on the smoker to clear room for yeah it only makes sense to put it on the smoker to so i don't have a giant bird in the oven so i can cook all the other things because it makes it's only logical we use the smoker to cook on like multiple times a week like it's a very used we i mean we smoke stuff all week every week like it's not something that we're not used to but it turned it was turned up it was a little too hot got a little too hot and he had three pounds of butter yeah inside of the turkey i did use a lot of butter it was delicious it was so good but the butter as it was basting through the turkey caught on fire in the bottom it went inside came back out and there was smoke no because i put the turkey on the grill then i'm like all right everything's more or less prepped yeah the turkey's on i'm gonna go a shower and get dressed oh yeah that's right and so that's right i got out of the shower and just glanced at my phone to check the temperature make sure everything was working and it was like 100 degrees too hot yeah like that's not right and so i ran downstairs i saw before i even got And i saw the smoke coming out of it i'm like and then he had to run somewhere oh we were dog sitting for friends and he ran to go let them out real quick and everything was chilling and then i walked outside not even five minutes after that happened and it was on fire again yeah thank gosh that we caught it like super quick yeah like we caught it the bottom like i had it for if anybody cares like i spatchcocked it which means you cut the backbone out of it and it lays flat so the only charred like the rib cage yeah it was and that's tricky we were worried like well there's thanksgiving no turkey it's fine like we'll just have we had so much so mad i was like it's whatever it's fine i know he was so upset and he had spent so much time and i'm like it's okay i yelled yelled you're like what i know i know and like i thought you got hurt or something yeah yes it was but after was.
But after we took the charred skin off. Yeah, it was fine. It was so good. And I carved it. It was really good. Everything was so good. He, everything. He can't cook anything that's not good. That's not true. It's true. It's not true. It's true. 15 years, I've never seen it, so. It's true. There's been something. I'm sure there's been something. No. 15 years, I'm sure. We just blocked that part out, I guess. Nope. We just don't talk about it. Everything you do. Perfect. It's stupid. Not true. Yeah, it was good. We had all of our kids home. Sorry. Our daughter lives in Florida, and she...
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Six in the morning. So I played Uno with the kids, the cheating kids, and never seen people cheat at Uno so much. They were teaming each of, they all had teams, and I was the one that was out. So I had no teammate, and they were all working with each other, and I was like, whatever. And they were all so happy.
I was like, whatever, whatever it's fine they were taking like five cards instead of one like they wanted a whole stack of cards so they could just throw like skips and a lot of them just quit i was like nah they had like 50 cards in their hand it was insane it was insane and then they'd switch hands with you that's the thing that one card. They were holding 50 cards and they kept having that card because they'd find it in those 50 cards and then they'd just switch hands with somebody who had... It was so stupid. I mean, nothing tests a family like Monopoly and Uno. Yeah, they refused to...
Well, her oldest refuses to play Monopoly. She gets so mad. There's two games that test families. Yeah, we had a good Thanksgiving, though, and it's already on to Christmas now, so time and spice. And we have our birthday next week. Yeah, our youngest has her birthday. We always have that. It comes super fast because it's like Thanksgiving, that, and then Christmas. Just bam. And the kids get off school again in a minute. Just crazy busy. It's a hustle, hustle. Chaos. So you don't hear from us. It's because we have Christmas programs and all these kids and baby showers and birthdays.
Christmas, it's a lot. And Christmas parties that we're supposed to go to. And Christmas parties that we can't go to. Some of them are not happy about it. But family life comes first. Kids come first. And yeah. It'll be here before we know it. It'll be gone before we know it. It'll be gone, yeah. It'll be January 2nd in like three, three minutes. But then it goes so slow. January and February are the longest months on the calendar, and I'm dreading it. It's already so cold in Georgia and everywhere else. It is, it is. Knowing it's so cold.
Yesterday when I was going to work, it it was 28 degrees yeah when i took you to work the other day it was 28 degrees and there's frost and everything else oh it was so cold and then i'm looking at everybody up back up north where they're all snow just in their yards and stuff and i'm like it's like 14 degrees okay i'm just kidding And I was like 40, and I'm like, oh, I guess I'm going to die. But yeah. Yeah. Anyhoo.
stuff and i'm like it's like 14 degrees okay i'm just kidding and i was like 40 and i'm like oh i'm gonna die but yeah yeah i mean yeah i guess we should get started on the episode i guess we could talk all day about let's get into it but i think they don't want to hear that so yeah the first one is going to be common statements to debate so these are statements that you we hear all the time and it's just our thoughts on these different things and why it's wrong Thank you.
So these are statements that we hear all the time, and it's just our thoughts on these different things and why it's wrong or right, why it's correct. Just our opinions on it? Yes. And you have to agree or disagree. Yeah. Okay. First one. Do we have a time limit on this one? No. Oh. That's the rapid fire question. Oh, sorry. This one you can take as long as you want.
All swinger parties are wild orgies i wish i know i sure wish only if that's where i thirst my anxiety colds up you're definitely that's my kink i didn't didn't know that but we love group sex love group sex like i mean it makes sense from you know being exhibitionists and voyeurists so you can do both at the same time you can watch people having sex while you're having sex and it's yeah and i love having crowds i love like i love being launched so i wish they were all wild orgies and usually they usually do okay you usually have to have an orgy organizer. That's the key.
Because swingers are like herding squirrels. Yeah, wherever. They're like, you can't. You can't. It's all over the place. People disappear. You never see them again. Like, it's very key. And all over the place. having organized one of these such orgies, you always invite more people than you actually. And having organized one of these such orgies, you always invite more people than you actually expect. Because I'd say 30% of them either get distracted and do something else. Or they're playing somewhere else. That happens so many times. Or they're just tired.
Or they go back to bed bed or whatever but yeah so yeah it's very rare when you invite everybody and we try to have every single party be in order to put doesn't always go off that way we get distracted and usually it's because we're playing somewhere else and then we miss it or we're dancing something is going on and we're bad about work when you say hurting we are the squirrels everybody is though i feel like it's not just us but we are really bad at squirreling all right next one you have to be in an open relationship to be a swinger to be a swinger or do swinging things to To be a swinger.
I mean, no. No. Because I don't consider us an open relationship. No, that's... Yeah. That's not true. No. Because our relationship is closed. Yeah. Closed relationship. Even though we have sex with other people. We just have sex with other people, but... But our, like, when you say a relationship, that's deeper than the physical aspect. Yeah. Yeah. You threw me off for a second when you said it. Because they are one and the same as well. It's like one of those umbrella terms. Yeah. Some may say that it is an open relationship, but I think relationship is a lot heavier than swing.
Like you're talking more polyamory and stuff like that when you talk about relationships. We're allocating for a relationship. We've already talked about it before, but we have, we call it swally. We're really close and have really good friends, but I don't want to live with these people. I would love to live near these people so we can see them more often.
Being my backyard that's fine I don't think I want to share a dwelling we didn't have a kid, like a roommate situation maybe, kind of true I don't know, I still feel like for us anyway right now, and that might change in the future, who knows what happens as of right now, I don't want I want to go to bed with you and have our time and have our space and our stuff plus do it with our friends Thank you. But, like, as of right now, I don't want, like, I want to go to bed with you and have our time and, like, have our space and our stuff.
Plus, hang, you know, do it with our friends occasionally, not every night. We just need a community with all of our friends. Yeah. As I said, you can live in my backyard. That's nice. But I do need, like, my own living quarters, at least. Yeah. I want to be able to go outside naked and pick my vegetables and stuff and then wave next door, too. And then just everybody's like, yo. And then we have dinners together here and there. But, like, it's not weird if we don't. Like, I just, you know what I mean? Yeah. That's my ideal situation. But, okay. Next one. Swinging is only for old couples.
Older. Not anymore. Not anymore. You're welcome. I'm just kidding. Quick. But really. I mean, when we first got, when we first finally watched how the couples were older. Oh, yeah. They were 50s. Yeah, it was very hard to find people our age. Like, late 40s into late 50s. Yeah. The age is definitely going down, at least in club settings and stuff like event settings and stuff that we went to. Well, the events are catered more towards younger now. This episode sponsored by Maximus Tribe. You train, you track, you eat right. But if you're over 40, you've felt it.
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Start your new podcast for free today at RSS.com. A lot of the events now have more of a rave type theme, which draws in the 20, 30, 40 year olds, like 50. The younger generation coming into it is definitely more open sexually.
Yeah, you see a lot more yeah just younger and also i've noticed like talking and like uh with like people have been the lifestyle for 20 years 30 years those are the like dtf couples yeah oh we're we want like some type of connection yeah we want the community of the commune and they're like it's not that serious and they're like yeah yeah they're the ones like you're not even swingers like i know because i don't want to have sex with everything that moves we get told that all of the time because we're not dtf that we aren't we're less swingers than they are which we are we're all swingers and we all just practice it differently i see dtf in a completely different scope i guess as the people well that's because i know but like i'm dtf well yeah that's what they call it's the dtf that's just what the term that people use for people that are looking for like a real quick like never known you before real fast we've done that i know it's not as fun yeah it's just not for me it's not like most of us have but i think we've all just want a deeper something chemistry it's more like we can do that but it's way more like exciting and fun and it oh my favorite part is the Flirting In the foreplay And the back and forth And Dancing Yeah Yeah fun and it's oh my favorite part is the flirting and the foreplay and the back and forth and dancing yeah so we can be both we can we can all be both i'll do it all doesn't really matter looking for a fresh way to connect in the lifestyle welcome to the playground a modern space where open-minded adults meet explore and create unforgettable connections built for the lifestyle community the playground is where curiosity meets connection ready to join the phone click the link below and start your adventure with the playground today all right you cannot be a swinger if you're introverted that is very much so false because that's me I don't know yeah all right you cannot be a swinger if you're introverted that is very much so false because that's me i don't know yeah you are species you are don't do well in those you definitely but you come out of your shell in those environments i've been a long way as well i'm definitely not the same person that i was before but yeah come a long way but yes you can be introverted and we have so many friends who are also introverted freakiest people you'll ever meet down they are down for the introverted ones are the freakiest yes like they don't just because you're introverted you have to be comfortable being uncomfortable and once you that, you just got to push yourself a little bit outside of your comfort zone.
Yeah. There's a lot of introverts. It opens a lot of windows. A lot of introverts here. Oh, yeah. All right. Swinging is just for couples and singles don't really fit in. Not true at all. Not true at all.
They make you think that on social media a lot of of the times the stuff with the single content talks a lot about how like there's no space but there is a space there's a very much a lot of people get in a lot of people we know have gotten into the lifestyle with like bulls and unicorns like that yeah like that's a big gateway to the last we know a lot of people that like regularly found lifestyle as a single and then have since gotten relationships and are exploring lifestyle as couples which is two separate journeys a lot less common to be a full swap couple than it is to be have played with singles we've never played with singles before which i think is pretty rare yeah most couples have played with singles i think we've played with singles but This is the end of the day.
have played with singles we've never played with singles before which i think is pretty rare yeah most couples have played with singles i think we've played with singles but it was always as a couple that's what i'm saying like we've never played you know what i mean like a lot of people play separately and do all of that too and there's a big there's a big like space for singles and definitely in this life and i think that they are very much appreciate much, we appreciate you. We love you.
I don't want to throw shade, but also most people that say that are guys that don't understand the S.L.A. Like, I'm sorry. That's true. But people, there's no room for single guys. That's not true.
There's lots of room for single guys but you also you have to be charismatic and fun to talk to that's hard to be a successful single person in the lifestyle there you it's hard to be a successful that's a whole different story right there but yeah it's but there's space there's definitely space there's definitely a need for singles and we love our singles and our couples and everyone okay everyone in the lifestyle is open-minded and accepting not not true unfortunately yeah we're hoping to get there that's the goal that's the purpose that's we're trying to help yeah it's for such a hold hands and things but well we as lifestyles a whole we claim to be so sexually open and there's still a lot of judgment there's still a lot of body shaming shit talking there's still a lot of homophobia when it comes to other guys like you don't see homophobia towards women really like bisexual and lesbian are like welcome with open arms but when it comes to a bisexual oh yeah or gay guys woman lifestyle yeah yeah like it's not common thing yeah um yeah that's the straight woman is the minority when it comes or they feel like they have to be by when they're really not bi that was my kind of journey for the first year because i've in my past have played with women i have kissed women i've always been attracted to certain women i'm very picky but i'm also very picky with my men And you helped me realize that because I never felt bi, you know?
I always was like, I enjoyed the times I have been with women, but I have to be attracted to them in some concept. I never understood that. Just because you're a bisexualist, I mean, you're attracted to every woman, just like you're not attracted to every man.
He kept reminding me that because he was like, I mean, I struggled with am I i straight and i really felt like a straight for like i was straight for the first like year i think for the most part like i felt very straight because i wasn't i didn't feel by enough yeah and i still struggle with feeling by enough because i am very picky and choosy but that's like he always reminds me that you're also like that with men and you consider yourself like you love men it's not any different yeah yeah and it helps me a lot and i've been able to this last year really explore women and kind of learn and i'm learning and figuring it out and you know having fun with women and it's been nice to have people too this lifestyle has helped me to definitely like experiment and see if i am or not and now i am finally like you know i've been saying like i'm bisexual and i've been owning that yeah but yeah it's definitely like your dynamic with women is different than it is with men and that's what i'm learning yeah but i wouldn't have learned any of that without the lifestyle and yeah unfortunately yeah the original question is open-minded and accepting and we ran on on a little tangent there.
But yeah, unfortunately, we're not, as a whole, we're not as open-minded and accepting as we say. A lot of the older generation are the ones who just don't, they just don't, I find more resistance with them than any other.
I don't think, so there is this, I don't think it's any type of prejudice or anything like that i think it's just a fear of change yeah yeah oh yeah i do agree because most of their like anger is because we're not doing it right or we're not enough doing enough of something or it's too much of something yeah and especially like in from what we see on the social media aspect in the podcast and stuff like that is they don't see us as equals like we're less than them because they don't try to earn their i'm like our credits our street cred trying to earn our street cred as a sw Like, they somehow think that we're profiting off of the lifestyle.
Yeah, I get that all the time, and I will laugh. Like, you know what song I was singing before when we were making the bed to bake the podcast? We work hard for no money. We work hard for no money. Because we are filming this at 10.30 p.m.
We just had a full day and just got the kids to go to bed and finish watching christmas movies and dinner and everything else and we knew we had to get it done right now because we also have a party this weekend a family friendly party yeah of people we don't know family members of our daughter's boyfriend that we're meeting for the first time yeah and so we have to deep clean the whole house my sister's coming for the weekend and my kids coming all weekend as well and all of them are staying here and yeah and so like i wish i wish i know i wish but i love you guys it's totally worth it but if you want to donate to the cause and paint that the original thing was that you know they think that we're trying to profit off their lifestyle and we get told that all day every single day yeah if you actually said it is it's not they think it's their lifestyle yeah oh i worked it for that reason yeah exactly what that is it's not theirs it's ours like as a whole yeah we're yeah no one owns the lifestyle there's no bible there's no like it's rule book it is what we have made it be a good person yeah let's be kind yeah let's be kind and accepting of new things and people and And there's going to be new people.
It's a good thing. Good thing. Stop fighting us. Okay, next question. Sorry. This is going to take forever. Swinging is only about physical pleasure. Emotional connections aren't part of it. Say, we first thought this. It can be.
When we first got lost, that's how it was exactly what it was yeah it was like it was strictly physical we were a very dtf couple that we ran around and we were like yeah we were just until we just made connections with we saw how good it can be family like they're at this point they're a family yeah um but yeah they we were that DTF yeah we saw how good it can be family like they're at this point they're family yeah yeah um but yeah they we were that dtf where they're like what's the difference what's this swing what's the difference between poly and swingers and always our answer was no emotion and i that's what we said first no emotion and i was like we gotta stop saying that i was like there's a lot of emotion there's a lot of feels there's a lot of chemistry there's a lot of vibes that's what makes the lifestyle so beautiful and that's why we love that's the addictive cocaine effect we call it it's that like more it's like deeper and it's more exciting when you have those things and we've learned that but yeah it was i hated i hated that i hated that answer no emotion no feelings no yeah not true and it could be whatever you want it to be yeah it can be but like we enjoy the butterflies and the flirting and the and there are nights where we just are like down to fuck you know we're just like you're hot or hot it hits off and stuff like they're like you know but like but it's still like for me even when we do that like and it does still happen but like you're hot we're hot like we we still hit it off in some way other than like physical always and they're like let's just let's just go get a room you want to go yeah yeah there still has to be a moment where we're getting you know to know each other a little bit a little bit especially for me i'm the one you would be down immediately in the moment but i need a little bit but even in that situation it's more just performative for me like yeah i can do it but hey there listeners are you looking to prioritize your sexual health and wellness we've got just a thing for you shameless care offers at-home testing kits telehealth consultations and even treatment for ed and performance anxiety for when you want to play but your body says otherwise.
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It's time to take charge of your sexual health today with shameless care, because your health is nothing to be ashamed of these are these are the ones that were submitted on our stories from our followers they're not ones that i sought after on my stuff okay okay so these are a little bit closer to home swinging is only for people with perfect bodies that is not no true i am and you are the definition of that because we're swingers and we do not have perfect bodies but we do it you know i think you have a perfect body if i told you you had a beautiful bump that you hold it against me but really i think you do i think you have a perfect body, too.
But I'm just saying. But I do have a very much. In societal, perfect body. I have very much a dead body. You're the perfect body for mine. For me. I love dead bodies. And it's perfect for me. But I'm saying society's standards. Now, there are women that have. The perfect bodies. Like, the societal, perfect body.
But you don't have the societal perfect body but you don't have to have that but you don't have to absolutely at all that's definitely not required no all right couples who swing can't take the relationship seriously true that is why would you do that why would you take it seriously that's 100% serious you've never met more people more serious about marriage yeah period I don't care we have always been pretty solid on our belief that marriage is a big fucking deal it's the biggest deal i actually just had this conversation yesterday with a lady at work because she was asking me about my like professional past and i mentioned how i used to work a lot yeah oh yeah and she's like oh so you were like on the edge of divorce oh no no no no.
I'm like, oh, no. You misunderstood that. Like, I just worked a lot, and it was frustrating for both of us because I wasn't at home. She's like, oh. She's like, I'm like, that's a curse word in our house. Oh, yeah. We don't say that word. We always have said that. We don't say that word. She's like, oh. She's like, and then she's like, okay, I get it now. But I'm like, yeah, I just had that conversation with the lady at work. Like, there's never been more things we've ever been serious in our marriage. And we hold that very, very dear to our hearts.
Like, our marriage is our number one purpose, everything. That's how, I mean, we... This episode sponsored by Maximus Tribe. You train, you track, you eat right. But if you're over 40, you've felt it. The results don't match the effort anymore. That's not willpower. It's biology. Hormones drop. Metabolism slows. Your body stops responding the way it used to. Maximus is the online clinic that reverses your decline with prescription performance medicines, GLP-1s, testosterone, and peptides that reduce belly fat, restore energy, and boost recovery.
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If you've been thinking about starting a podcast, this is your sign. Start your new podcast for free today at rss.com. They, as a joke a lot of times, but it's like when we see something with like a red flag with another couple, it's a them thing. This is an us thing. Everything we do is a couple. And And that is a, basically a way to protect our relationship. Because if we got involved, it could be twisted and crazy stuff happens. It could affect our relationship. Emotionally. Yeah, so that's kind of one of our grip points.
We've always been very much like if our marriage is affected in a negative way and we've been good at that since we were 21 like 22 years old like if it makes us feel any sort of certain way and it interferes with our marriage and our relationship shut it down and we don't want a part of that we've always been very serious so we do that is not true and then okay we've got I'll see you next time.
or we've always been very serious so we do that is not true and and then okay we've got you have to go to swinger clubs to be part of the lifestyle nope now there are so many people who have never been to a serial film and they've been myself for 20 years 30 years never been to a club i remember uh it was a couple years ago now but we were talking to a couple and they uh were been the last style for 20 years or so they were an older couple and they had just went to secrets for the first time yeah there's a lot that just like holy cow Do privately, you know home and dates like locally and like friends and more of the secret like really discreet vibes and like you were saying like bring bulls to their homes and unicorns to their homes and stuff like a very personal thing in the lifestyle and they just never been to clubs or resorts or events or you know and it's not it's that's not everybody's no no yeah like there we know we've heard so many people that have tried different like clubs or secrets or events and i'm just like it's just not we just can't it's yeah we went home yeah we didn't like it there talk yeah it's just not every couple's cup of tea but like you know some people just want to sit outside by a fire and just you know get close you know talk to a couple just two on two or one you know two on one or whatever one and rather do it that way than go to these big to do's and stuff and you know like everything like we said it can be literally whatever you want it to be and so yeah I feel like you've said that before this one was part of my video I put out today oh yeah so I have stuff to say that I don't not nobody you know not a lot of people agree with me but you should never bring your kids into the conversation about swinging into a conversation about swinging no so our opinion on that is maybe it's because we were outed and we had no choice but to have those conversations i think it's so much more nonchalant for us and more of like this is how like because we're on the other side of it i think maybe i think people because it's part of this negative stigma of the lifestyle because they automatically connect it with sex children and then sex and children don't go together so they automatically assume if you're talking about this with your child it's an inappropriate conversation which isn't the fact no like when we had this conversation with our kids we talked to them about different like relationship dynamics uh that love differently people yeah you know people go on dates with other people it depends on their age and what their age is it appropriate or you know what i mean like and you doesn't we've never once been like oh yeah we participate in orgies in these playrooms that they like we've never ever they don't know what happens we've never talked about they think we're hanging out with our friends yeah like that's to them it's just hanging out with our friends and going on dates together is like going out to dinner with another couple like it's not like we're friends like it's not or if we're actually hosting uh like hosts at an event they like oh you gotta work this yeah it's like a work it's oh yeah because yeah if we're hosting for because if we're hosting we're not just going to party and they understand our mission and they understand like there's ways to if you would like to have you know if you would like to have that conversation with your kids and you want to be 100 out and open with everyone if that's what you want to do there are ways to do it without it being so negative all the time we're like we're fortunate enough or we are already training our children to be open-minded and accepting people but since we had to have those conversations with our kids it's opened the door for other conversations like sexuality and like we had a whole conversation at the dinner table one night about bisexuality and what that actually means actually means yeah and yeah because he was curious he just he genuinely was a teenage boy that was just curious what that means because he's heard it before and so i am in school 100 believer of if they're old enough to ask the question there's a age-appropriate way to answer it and give them the answer.
We never brought up sex in that explanation. No, absolutely not. None of our stuff has ever been about sex with people, ever. It's not sexualized. There's ways to have people understand that we just live life a little bit differently, and that's okay.
It's okay to live a different life than other people and it's okay to do stuff that's not normal and seen as normal normal and yeah that's all right there's ways that you can bring them and if you don't want to you don't have to it's not again it's your family your children i think back of when we were our kids ages and i didn't want to know about my parents sex life no oh yeah and then you become like a teenager like you know they have sex but you still don't want to know about it yeah yeah so why was it any different And if we, like what we do in private consensually with other consenting adults, why would our kids care about it?
And the fact that people always constantly just throw kids when they talk about singing, it's the first thing they throw out. It's children. Children. I'm like, it's kind of weird. I don't know. I could go on for days about that one. It's a whole thing. And, you know, I just don't think that kids see pineapples and stuff and think Thank you.
know i could go on for days about that one it's a whole thing and you know like i just don't think that kids see pineapples and stuff and think that oh we're sweet i just don't they see a pineapple like i don't know nobody's paying there's so many symbols are in this world and we talked about this because you didn't put out the video you wanted to put out you put out a second video okay you know what i'm not going to share my opinion this was the bit this was the original video but i don't know what i talked about you even you made a good point in that first video that you didn't share and you said it opens if they can ask a question about that pineapple and why it's on there.
There's an opportunity there to teach children about different relationships and dynamics and different just humans in general. It could be as easy as, oh, that's a symbol for couples that are non-monogamous. Or non-monogamous. Or they enjoy...
They enjoy other couples like it doesn't have to be that it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be about sex why we gotta throw sex in there and automatically think we're telling people about like going doggy on some neighbor guy like it's just not that's not the conversation people are having with their kids i promise i really i promise you that's not how that conversation is going. But yeah, okay, next one. Because we could keep talking about that for a whole episode. Okay, couples get into swinging because they don't love each other. We already answered that one. Have you met us before?
Not true.
Actually, it's's a bigger turn on we can tell the couple love each other are like obsessed with each other like yeah like yeah it's definitely hot takes their hot level like a ton yeah because the biggest turn on for us in the lifestyle is couples that i'll say that all the time like they're not solid i'll be up to him when i meet couples and like if i do especially my single things i've told him i've reported back to him when he wasn't at events and stuff and been like stay away from them they're not solid and that's all he needs to know they're not good they're not good like if i see any like sign i'm just like just be careful because I don't think they're good.
You can usually tell if there's something going on. Again, those red flags. It's a red flag. That's what I, that's... That you can see within the relationships, and it's like... Be careful. Be careful. It's there. We're not going to stop talking to you, but also... Oh, no, we can still be swingers. We're good at that. Yeah. We can still navigate that, but... But also... We don't want to. We don't want to. We don't have to. And so we've just stopped. We used to do that a lot.
I'm not even saying that, being swingers, but, like, we can still be friends with them, but there won't be going past that if there's... Yeah, that too. But we can also... We can also ignore it for a night. Sometimes. We used to. I'm not saying anymore. I always run up to them and be like, no, let's just stop. Because we've learned since then. It creates more problems than it's worth. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You can go find another couple that you can have a great night with and don't have to tiptoe or feel weird. Have weird moments. Yeah. It doesn't have to be weird.
All, you know. Don't have to deal with. Yeah. There's too many people out there. Them freaking out in the middle them freaking out in the middle of activities. We used to really try really hard to help. That was the worst. Help each other out. Oh my gosh, when there were marriages that were just not good. Or not even marriages. They were just together. Not good. And they'd be like, so he did this and that. I'm like, yeah. You guys, this is way to a vanilla conversation in a swinger location. And I don't like it. We're going to not do that. Okay. Now this is. Oh, no. One more question.
One more question from a follower. Or statement from a follower. The lifestyle is too expensive. It's three times as expensive for single males versus females, also. Yes. That is true. Both things are true. Yes. One, there are less expensive ways to export a lifestyle. You don't have to go, you don't have to drop $1,200 for a weekend, just go to a hotel takeover, or go on a $5,000 cruise, or I don't have to do all these big events that are pretty expensive. They get expensive between hotels and event tickets and travel and, yeah. Costumes.
They're like, I'm not going to say it's not expensive because it is but it doesn't have to be you can literally find your local community and go out to dinner once you start finding your people you can do whatever just hang out in your house like or at a hotel or Airbnb and just watch movies all night like it doesn't have to be that expensive and actually those are usually what we prefer those times this past like year or so we've just decided to do a lot less events and the traveling and the frivolous lifestyle and we've kind of really backed it back home to you know trapeze and local things and close friends and couples that we know locally and i've enjoyed like i it's a it's again that connection and that vibes chemistry you get more of that when you do stuff closer to home also the second part of that is it is three times more for a single single male than it is couples.
Now there are certain companies and groups that have a set price for everyone, per person. And I was up to dark is a very big advocate for single males, and they definitely are pushing towards... Like, in how they do their tickets, it's literally this price per person as it's not and i understand why i i get whole sides i do like you don't want to oversaturate a party with a whole bunch of single guys yeah and so they up charge this to weed out the people that are I don't know what the right word for it is.
As ethical but not really and a lot of them you'll find that not a lot of them but i i guess i don't know trapeze on fridays will really show you like there's a lot of not lifestyle people that come there just to get laid yeah so there's a lot of navigating that but out and but trapeze is one of those places that charges single men more so i don't i also don't like i don't understand events like the scale of that would be way way bigger like secrets is a place that does that like i want to say uh membership for a month for a single male is like pretty pretty much everyone every thing that i we've ever been to or attended has like more priced tickets for and we've been to events too that are there are no singles allowed period oh yeah we've been to like it's couple lashes like that yeah splash is a couples only event yeah there are quite a few couples only but even them they're they're offering like throuple packages like that now yeah so we're getting there we are like everybody's somebody's gotta start it you know somebody's gotta you know and i do believe in exclusive you know inclusivity and like not excluding people based on you know and so i do it's a fine i know i get it and it's like you want to because you want to protect the masses you don't want shady people just to walk in like buy a 50 ticket and come in but 90 percent of the single guys are more ethical than a guy you're going to meet at a bar.
I know. And I think a lot of it was that we've always been taught single males for horrible things. They're also fighting against an even harsher stigma than the swingers in general. Oh yeah. And you're just constantly hearing how horrible single males are all the time. You have to retrain yourself.
Once you start actually meeting real lifestyle single males yeah more bad experiences with single females oh for sure i've said that single males day one like day one every single guy i've talked to in the lifestyle has been respectful they're they we can sit there and talk about whatever and if we like and they'll like so you guys are you do you like single guys this and that or like pro what's the word I'm looking for no proposition us there we go and if we say no they're like okay not a problem this episode sponsored by Maximus Tribe I'll see you next time.
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Yeah, we've had some not-so-great experiences. Or most single women, I don't want to say most because that's not true, but a lot of single women that we've met don't understand the boundaries that single males. They think that they have this princess mentality.
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We have to talk for 30 seconds about whatever these misconceptions or myths or statements or whatever you have to fill a whole 30 seconds with an argument but i feel like it'll be all right about you just have to respond to why it is not true or why it is true or anything you have to talk for 30 whole seconds you have to set the timer i got it all right first one oh hold on i got an hour and 30 seconds we don't want to do that i don't do that okay not all right swinging is the same as cheating go no okay done no i'm just kidding uh swinging is the exact opposite of cheating actually there's cheating you're hiding things from your partner.
You're being dishonest, disloyal. Is that even a word, disloyal? Deceptive. Deceptive. All the dees. Yeah, all the dees. But most importantly, you're... Done. Out of time. We'll never know. But you did good, you did good. Yeah, you have to tune in later for having finished that statement. Okay, number two. Number two? Yes. Okay, ready? Yes. Swingers are hedonists with no morals. Sounds like my Instagram. Every single comment I get told that I have no morals. And I say to that, yes, I do. Like, why does who I have sex with have anything to do with my morals?
Morals is a very personal, deep inside thing. It has nothing to do with my sex life. And those are two. I hate that. I hate that so much. No dignity, no morals, no respect or anything. You're indignant. No, I'm a very moral person. Oh, that's it. Okay. All right. Ready?
You should always inform your partner about every thought you have during a swap every thought every thought no no because i have some intrusive thoughts now you need to now I need some like I haven't chosen thoughts I wanna know all day that's true it's just who you are it's a thing like in the the like i have a lot of thoughts i want to know all day it's just who you are it's like in that they can't be repeated like what goes in my on in my brain yeah sometimes it's just a game i play with myself but it's like what if all right you're done time. But that being said, I don't pass 30 seconds.
But if it's something that I feel passionate about, then yes. But not every thought. And not every thought. Thank you, Sam. You only know what the hell is going on in my brain. I couldn't even tell you. I mean, if I said everything, some of those thoughts would be like, cramp. Oh. There's a lot of work. I have said that out loud before, but. All right. Number four. Number four. All right. The lifestyle is just a fad and it will die out. The lifestyle is thriving and growing by the minute.
I was just reading an article today about how it was 4% of the Americans, American adults, participate in some form of non-monogamy. And now it's up to 5%. And that's just very small, little studies and think how many people are discreet and no one knows about the lifestyle they say one in every four people that you meet yeah have explored the lifestyles in some way I think that definitely is growing not going to sex isn't going away. Alright. Ready? I'm ready. Next. Okay. Swinging can help improve communication in a relationship. One hundred and ten percent. Like, can? It should.
There's no can it. It should.
Like, if you're we talk about how you do it your own way but if in my opinion the correct way to do less is talking to your partner like if you're not talking to your partner about your experience then why are you doing it not a very good experience exactly all right that was a good 30 second one actually all right i think they've all been pretty good good swingers never experienced jealousy good swingers again back with this good swingers we have a different level of what swinger we are but that's not true at all it's okay to experience jealousy jealousy is not an end all be all to being a swinger if you have jealousy it doesn't mean that you're not good at the lifestyle or that you're not doing it correctly it means that you're a human and most of us have been married to our person And I think that's what you do it's how you deal with it.
We suck at to your basic human emotion. It's what you do. It's how you deal with it. We suck at 30 seconds. I know. Okay. I'm a slow talker. Alright. You actually have mentioned that numerous times. You're like, all right. Swingers are more likely to get STDs than monogamous people. No. I'd say, yes, we have I'll see you next time. Alright, swingers are more likely to get STDs than monogamous people. No. I'd say, yes, we have sex more often than monogamous people, I would say. But we practice safe sex almost 100%. I want to say 100%.
There are instances where people are exclusive with other couples that don't use protection. But they're usually tested. But what I was getting ready to say is they're also getting regularly tested to make sure their other partners are safe. where monogamous couples what's what's the percentage of monogamous couples that experience infidelity or commit infidelity uh are they having how many times you went to a bar pick up a girl and that you asked for their std testing and they handed it to you exactly and had condoms in their her pocket yeah Or her husband's pocket. I thought we'd do.
You know what I mean. You never have pockets. You know what I mean. Or my pouch that's in my back pocket. Alright. We've already talked about that one. Just peeked at it. We haven't seen any of these. We're just reading them as it goes. Swinging rules and boundaries set it a million times especially this episode swinging can be whatever you want it to be if you want to have 400 boundaries and rules and have you know contracts that you need people to sign Or if you have one boundary or no boundaries, you can do whatever you want to do.
And it's good to have a set of boundaries and limits and stuff. Because there is a guarantee there's something you're not into or you don't want to do. And I promise, but you don't have to. You can do whatever you want it to be or don't want it to be. For the millionth time okay okay alright you must have a membership to be in the lifestyle 100% we have so many memberships I'm selling membership cards on Cash App in Token we have so many memberships We have memberships all over the country. There's so many different things because yes, no, you do. I want to start a National Swingers Club.
We have a lot of membership cards. We should. We should write a Bible for it. Just do it already. So we can law. This is the law. This is the law. The law. No. So so in that respect oh i'm out of 30 seconds about it but the last question or no there's one one more but a lot of swingers clubs and resorts require a membership for entry we will say that but you do not have to have a membership to be a swinger Yeah, no, not to be a swinger, just a go-to swinger thing, for the most part, you do. Yeah. Not to be a swinger, no. No. All right. Last and final question. Go on ahead.
Swingers are bisexual or open to same-sex encounters. Go. Not true.
We kind of talked about this earlier, how I felt like at the beginning i wasn't bi so i felt out of place and i felt kind of weird because it did feel like every female that i met was bisexual i didn't it's very rare to find like yeah just straight women but no that's not true because you i very much participated and had fun and still got to like as long as you're comfortable with yourself so you can have fun like i'm straight and you're straight that's what's my next day it was also there are also by curious bisexual and by flexible guys in lifestyle that we've met and and by comfortable I'm going to show you have to be to same- sex scenarios that's what to me or encounters and i'm like now i feel like you have to be comfortable with another naked guy in the same room as you yes you have to be secure in your manhood to some extent because if you're not we know people who aren't and struggle with their you know own self and they're very like self-conscious not self-conscious but i guess so but they're just not secure in their selves and they get really weirded out by other men and it's a them thing yeah that's what's the biggest thing they it's a them thing is they're not comfortable in their own skin enough and they're always comparing themselves to other people so i think you should be open to anything but you don't have to be you don't have to be i think you should be cool and if it's not for you don't yuck someone's yum you know that's what they say i think i don't think i've ever heard that one before really yeah it's not for you, don't yuck someone's yum.
You know, that's what they say. I think. I don't think I've ever heard that one before. Really? Don't yuck someone's yum. That's very common. I was going to say, you just come up with frit. That's a good one. Yes, I did. I did that. Yeah, because I'm cool and hip.
You know but you know what guys this is a way longer episode than we ever planned it to be and so we still have over an hour another couple segments left and there is no way we're going to squeeze that into an hour so and we don't even have commercials or any editing done but it's gonna be over an hour i believe so yeah unfortunately but fortunately we will continue this and we will do a whole other episode and we will finish out yeah our statement we'll definitely have to add these like even if it's not the same subject and the next ones were funny ones too it was a whole funny funny yeah i feel like we can throw these at the end of an episode or something just for a fun i think this episode is really good and gets our opinions and you know kind of like gets people to know where we stand and what we believe in and introduces what we kind of yeah a little more something to think about yeah maybe hopefully oh they have a good point but i also don't they don't you don to feel the same way.
Go on, disagree, talk about it. We want you guys to sit together with your person or your people and talk about this stuff and tell them that you don't agree, that's what I said. This is a great debate episode. Yeah, we would like to spark some conversation and make sure that you leave us, you know. And you know what?
It's okay to agree to agree to disagree okay we're all different people we don't have to see eye to eye to be friends just be kind and be nice and be open that's literally what the lifestyle is supposed to be is kind and open-minded and amazing wonderful it just gets that's what attracted us to this lifestyle to begin with that's why we love it that's why we're here that's why we do a podcast that's why we are here is just for you guys we are love for the lifestyle and so and we love that you're all different and you all have different ways to do the lifestyle and you all have different relationship dynamics and different stories and you're all different people and we love that and we don't mind having a different opinion than everybody else.
It's okay. We don't need to be mean, be nice to each other. We love each other and we love you. We appreciate you for being here and yeah, we will have to wrap this up until next week. Until next week. We're going to have to stay tuned for another part. For part two. Yeah. The great debate. The great debate. If you don't like it, tell us and then we won't even bother. Please. But yeah, I plan on. I think it was good. I think it was too. I think it was a good one. It was good. But as always, not that serious. Don't make it weird. Bye.
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