Where's Hunter?

Truth

FWIW: I would go to jail for seeing the pictures of the 14 yo niece on hunters laptop, but hunter isn't in jail. Read that again...

Hump , we now know who does the complaining around here !

And in other news . Hunter’s attorney bailed out .

@Hump

Well, welcome back. Your anger was missed. :)

@Erotic I have not been in posting jail for your information

If he gets a felony pled down to a misdemeanor, ya. But there are no exceptions to the gun rights. But* once he has completed any court ordered sentence/rehab/whatever, he can apply to have his rights restored. Any deviation from that would be very very rare and reek of special treatment. Prohibited person in possession alone is usually a year and a day + a fine. Sentence is usually commuted to probation.

@Marion

I am not sure you are right. I ->THINK<- there was a deal on the gun thing that didn't have that restriction. So I do not think there would be that in the deal.

We shall see :) Right now we are both playing Nostradamus.

I agree.

I'm split on that. Non violent felons shouldn't lose their rights. But, I'm in the camp of legalize everything, restrict narcan and let the problem solve itself.

@marion, what about felons who do their jail time and get out. Should they get the gun rights back ? I think so..

Any plea agreement would be to plead guilty to a felony. At a minimum that would be lifetime gun rights gone & several thousand dollars in fines, probably a rehab visit.

@Marion

I didn't think you were being confrontational at all.

That is why I put question marks in my response.

So for Hunter, this means the federal court in Delaware.

I wonder if it will be pleaded out before it hits the trial. I don't think there will be a sentence short of 'Die mother fucker DIE' that will placate a certain group.

The problem with the last plea deal was that the judge looked at the deal and said, "Uhh. NO. This can't be done." The deal was trying to stop future administrations from trying to open the case AGAIN for some stupid angle that would not put him in double jeopardy. The more I think about it, yeah, I think there will be a deal and this will never see the court room. The previous judge was OK with the deal if it stopped at that point, not a future deal. I think we will see a tighter deal, but it may have some slightly different penalties.

Time for someone in Congress to sponsor a bill for stronger background checks and call it Hunter's Law.

He'll be tried in the state in which he committed the alleged felony. My point was, if he had committed the crimes in Alabama, he'd be tried in federal court in Alabama. Based on what I've seen take place in the federal courthouse here. I can reasonably guess the sentence, based on the crimes. I'm not trying to be confrontational over this. I think the gun should have been in a vending machine.

@Marion

Being charged there?

This is not Alabama law. This is federal. Alabama has jurisdiction?

thetruthaboutguns. com/an-iowa-woman-got-1-year-in-jail-plus-probation-for-lying-on-a-4473-what-about-hunter-biden/

So there was a woman who straw purchased and lied about her drug issues. She got 366 days.

Again, that was a crime. This is why the Hunter situation is odd.

According to that article, Hunter didn't dump the gun, his GF did.

Welcome to the side that thinks losing your gun rights for a non violent felony is bullshit.

@EA: if convicted of a the felony, he loses gun rights for life. That's across the board for any felony. The 4473 will cost him his gun rights for life. That is a 100%, every time regardless of any jail time. As for disposing of the gun. I'll admit I'm not following the case very closely, but I believe he threw it in a dumpster in a school zone. I could be wrong, I just remember hearing that somewhere. The gun was used in the commission of a crime, prohibited person in possession of a firearm. Albeit a chicken or egg kinda thing. If he was being charged here, he'd get at least two felony convictions based on the evidence and probably serve 5 years with all sentences running concurrent.

@Marion

Yeah, I know those are the max he can get. But like I said, his is very very very rare. I believe DTH posted some links to cases. There was nothing similar other than lying on the form. The other cases had previous offenders for shit.

I don't think there are minimums.

As I mentioned . . . take the name away and look at the charges. Then look at the priors. How would you want the judge to rule on sentencing?

Hunter:

No priors.

Lied on the form.

The gun was NOT used in any crime, regardless of conviction.

I believe the gun was disposed of legally as well.

I would not be surprised to see something along the lines of, "Drug testing for a year, can't own a gun for a year, 20 hours community service, $500 fine."

That should piss the fuck out of people who are trying to have him publically flogged, then tarred, then feathered, then put by the wall for the firing squad, all while being livestreamed on Twitter.

On a related note. He is actually looking at 25 years total. 5 for lying to the FFL , 10 for lying on the form & 10 for a possession of a firearm by a prohibited person. BUT.... as EA and others know, I believe all gun laws are an infringement, so I'm on Hunter's side for once, and I'm not alone. The FPC has offered to take up the case and fight for his rights against unconstitutional laws. His own attorney's have questioned the constitutionality of the charges. This may be a landmark case people! Removing the prohibited persons from federal law.

@AE: lying on a 4473 form is a federal offense and a felony. It carries a maximum penalty of 10 years. The average court ruling ends up being between 3-5 years in a federal institution. Let's see if he gets treated "normally".

@Hump

Welcome back from posting jail.

"I don’t think they will do much to Hunter."

And they shouldn't. Take away the name and look at the charges.

1. Didn't pay taxes. 2. Bought a gun, legally, through a background check, and lied about being on drugs.

First off, hanging someone for not paying their taxes, uhh, NO. Our country doesn't do that to anyone. He has since paid them, now what? The defect has been cured.

Second off, killing someone for lying on that form. ROFL. What should the punishment be? Banned from owning a weapon? For a period of time or permanently? Again, this charge is very very very rare. Most of the time the result is a slap on the wrist. It is not a hanging.

I want Hunter Biden treated the same as John Doe. I want Donald Trump treated the same as John Doe.

I don’t think they will do much to Hunter.They need to hang him by his balls.They are really going after crooked Joe Biden.They have all the evidence but not sure they will hang his ass either.I hope they do.I think a lot of Americans are seeing that ole joe is a crooked pos .The whole family got rich.He sold our country out.There is not much of this country left

I had no clue as to how bad this stuff is, Until I accidentally found the Q thread and the Anons who were actually able to figure out the crumbs Q was dropping. I guess that's why Q many times after a crumb what ask, why is this relevant? They can laugh at me all they want, Q is a military operation, PERIOD and people will soon find that out. Q + In the Q thread is no doubt Donald Trump.

Mickey

As George Carlin used to say- It's a big club and you aint in it!

@Ron, same here, it took me awhile, but I realized it and also, saw it. I was a good boy and did what I was told to do.