I should do the same. The safe sex thread is more appropriate. It's definitely been on my mind and my Girlfriend's lately as more people in our immediate community have lately started playing bare.
Unsubscribing now.
Okay, cue the "Debbie Downer" sad trombone.
Hahaha!
I'm outta here.
Gee IDK. On the other hand what do you call someone who puts everyone at a party at higher risk? The "life"of the party seems a bit ironic.
We try to keep it as safe as we can. We love bareback and oral, so we seek out and get to know our potential play partners as best that we can first. Though not an iron clad way it reduces the risk.
Current you MUST be the life of every party you attend lol
@Black Vulcan
Not 100% effective and not effective are two different things. One of my main concerns as that percentage risks multiply with exposure.
I don't mind clarifying.
BV... I understand your angle of enjoyment... No need to defend your stance.
Ha! Well, you got that wrong. I am strictly heterosexual. The anus happens to be an erogenous zone for all humans, no matter the sexual orientation. That's simply biological. All males who deny that have issues being secure in their own masculinity. Everything else is more complicated. I have no attraction for my own gender whatsoever, and frankly, I can't understand those who do. Personally, I feel that beautiful women are the crown of creation. Full stop. I never want a dick up my ass, but I do enjoy the attention there of a woman's finger or her tongue. I hope that's clear.
Great story, but all I got was, you had a finger in your ass and now you are bisexual.
As a courtesy, I have alerted women to my imminent climax the first time enjoying fellatio with them. Some have quickly released my dick to allow my spurting eruption to just happen as they recoiled, and I respect that. But with other women, I have been sure to discuss up front what we both like in this arena. Of course, it excites me most to meet those who delight in swallowing it all down. In those instances, I never say anything when I'm about to cum, and it feels wonderful to freely gush directly into her throat.
I remember being the victim of one woman who I labeled as a cum vampire. True story. She was a petite, very pale Jewish woman I met off a personal ad. At the end of our date, she decided to fulfill one of my "teen" fantasies, having oral sex in the backseat of my car (I had never done anything like that as a kid.). She claimed that, like the legendary porn star Linda Lovelace (of DEEP THROAT fame), she could actually orgasm from performing fellatio. I wanted her to prove it. We had returned to my 4-door Honda Accord parked on the roof of a public garage in Downtown, Pasadena, and we both got in the back. So, after first eating her pussy, I stripped naked except for my button-down shirt. I wanted to totally surrender to her oral skills, and I sat in the middle of the seat, spreading my legs wide as she crouched down in between. She was good. She was very good. And as things progressed, with the noises she was making and her telltale movements, she convinced me that she was indeed reaching multiple orgasms. This truth soon summoned my own, and it was ecstasy to give in to her. My dick was all hers then, to use as her plaything to her own gratification. She devoured my massive ejaculation with a feral hunger. But-- she didn't stop. She wouldn't release my spent cock during all those hyper-sensitive zaps and jolts post-climax. I decided to just suffer through that uncomfortable aftermath, figuring she would let me go after another minute. Nope. She kept going. And, looking down at her pale, glowing skin in the dim light, she did seem to be a creature of the night, an undead vampire feeding on me. I liked the idea that she was determined to suck her life-sustaining nourishment found within my balls. My dick grew rigid again right inside her mouth, something I had never experienced before, ever! Her warm drool was oozing down my shaft and over my scrotum. I lifted my hips up off the seat to push up into her assault, and I felt her finger sliding down my taint to playfully poke inside my asshole. While she continued to suck mercilessly, she dug her middle finger up inside me to her last knuckle. Lost in the euphoria, I yielded up a second blast of semen, and she gulped that down as well. Only then did she let go of me, permanently installing herself as a legend in my young life.
The only way we play is BB Never had any problems, but we do not just play with anyone. One time a couple requested condoms and we did use them. They asked to play again another time with condoms only and we passed. No offense to anyone, that's just how we play. That would be like asking my wife to pull you our her mouth when you cum, That aint happening either Lol.
Mickey
@currentrider - You're not wrong in your safety concerns, or in your feelings of alarm. Nobody wants to contract or spread STDs. I believe most lifestyle folks do their best to protect themselves, including those who prefer to play bareback. The confirmed data concludes that the safest sex is no sex at all. Condoms are ineffective as a protection against certain viruses. So, even condom users shouldn't feel so superior. Ultimately, lovers of bareback sex must decide between higher and lower risks, because risk will always be present, unfortunately (even with condoms). Honesty, being very selective regarding playmates, and cutting back on the amount of partners may mitigate the risks.
@Mayhem and BlackVulcan
I should probably have noted that I was in the fantasy section and not the real life section. And I reacted to a really insulting and ignorant comment,
I can't disagree with the notion that bareback sex is both more pleasurable and, as Vulcan pointed out, in it's own way hot. I also, BTW, share your views Vulcan that the (consensual but still freaky) taboo of shooting another man's wife (as opposed to "just" some sexy woman) full of ones hot cum is undeniably hot. Fucking someone that is part of a bonded couple with a condom is also pretty fucking hot. But this much is a given, no? Does anyone reading this actually prefer sex with condoms?
The dilema I'm facing is dealing with the anxiety I am feeling for and with some of our close friends who I feel are putting themselves and others in our community at risk to indulge in that behavior wholesale. Again, probably the wrong thread to have that discussion in. Carry on.
current - One thing that might be worth adding. Outside of the body, most STD viruses/bacteria are very fragile. While a mouth and vagina are warm moist environments, unlike the mouth that will be used for drinking/eating, semen is just going to sit there longer in a vagaina in a more ideal environment for incubation.
It is likely that someone going bareback is going to want to experience the warm sensation of semen, and even if one were to pull out, there is still pre-cum where a guy may not even realize it has been released. This all goes along with the woman going bareback for penetrative sex having the higher risk, vs a man.
Ideally, it's best to play as safely as possible and as is reasonable, always considerate and mindful of the other person's health as well as one's own.
That being said, based on experience, nothing can equal or replace the supreme pleasure of bareback sexual connection. No matter how sensitive and well-made the condoms are, flesh-on-flesh contact is just better. Moreover, without any artificial barriers, skin-to-skin is the only genuine sex. Consider, can you ever really kiss someone else through Saran wrap?
Within this kinky lifestyle, I mostly enjoy playing with married women. That, and Interracial are the combined taboos which thrill me like nothing else. If I'm going to have sex with another man's lovely wife, I prefer to go all in as far as committment. I want it to be real. Legitimate. And it follows that, in celebrating the indecent and immoral taboo of fornicating with a happily-married wife, fully consummating the act by pumping my semen directly into her lawfully-wedded vagina yields an almost indescribable euphoria that cannot be surpassed.
@KnotURAvgCpl
"Read up and educate yourself."
Ok had you left those five words out I would not have responded. But you apparently couldn't resist. So here you go:
Read up and educate yourself Dumbass.
You also might want to learn some math while you're at it. A few facts to help your education along:
1) Your chances of acquiring an STD go up with your number of partners, and dramatically in some STDs, when the number of lifetime partners is relatively very high (i.e. more than dozens). Sound like any demographic you're familiar with? So, yeah, no shit, swinging carries risks.
2) Properly used, condoms protect to a significant degree from acquiring many STDs during intercourse. Same is true of oral sex but, in my experience, that's usage is rare.
3) If, to keep the math simple, one assumes that your chances of acquiring such an STD are tenfold higher without a condom (possibly not not that far off), It doesn't take a genius to figure out that someones chances of a bad outcome go up significantly when engaging with a population that does not, generally, utilize the same level of risk reduction.
4) As a follow on to item 2, many STDs are less transmisible via oral sex versus penetrative sex (ghonorrhea being a notable exception). So, in other words, bareback penetrative sex and bareback oral sex are not created equal from the standpoint of transmission risk.
5) For those who give a shit about the women in their lives, similar to PIA penetrative sex (penis in anus), the penetrated party in PIV penetrative sex (penis in vagina) is at much higher risk than the one doing the penetrating.
Most of the above facts are easy to verify on the CDCs website.
Love fucking BB....but will use a condom if asked.....
FunITC.
Its natural, fun and the way it was meant to be. As close as two can be at those magic moments, short of creating family ties ...
FunITC.
Its natural, fun and the way it was meant to be. As close as two can be at those magic moments, short of creating family ties ...
Well said FUNITC !
Exactly!!!
Well said FunItalian! Everything in life carries risk. The odds of catching HIV from BB swinging are probably less than odds of being in a car accident driving to the swing event! Everyone has their own tolerances.
Couldn’t explain it any better
Its been an explosion of bi guys over the past 10 years doing this. People can say what they wan to say but HIV rates are 100X more in the gay men bi community. Atlanta Ga has extremely high HIV rates amount straight women because they had no clue their "straight" BF was actually gay/bi.
So people have to be extremely careful with their choices these days. It takes like 5 seconds with an oral swab or finger stick to see if a person is clean. I know because Ive been playing bareback with a nurse for a couple of years.
Bareback fucking is awesome but not worth your health and life.
Current, isn’t swinging a tad bit risky in general to begin with?? If you’re so secure in condoms then why are you concerned with playing with them if you wear them at all times?? The fact is condoms ONLY protect against pregnancy. If your doing any type of oral without protection during your swapping then condoms during penetration is useless for protecting against pretty much all SDI’s.. Read up and educate yourself.
