Becca and Drew share their 29-year journey from teenage sweethearts to a cuckolding couple, revealing how they ve maintained a passionate relationship by embracing sexual exploration and open communication.• Met as teenagers and knew early on they were into more than just vanilla sex • Discovered their interest in cuckolding after a teenage incident where Drew was aroused by seeing hickeys another man had left on Becca• Experienced their first spontaneous cuckolding encounter in a Jeep parking lot with friends watching outside• Met their most memorable bull online who understood the psychology of everyone s roles and set a high standard• Learning to overcome shame and judgment from others while strengthening their relationship• Being in the lifestyle has made them both better lovers to each other• Communication and aftercare are essential to their success• Advice for women: do self-work to destroy societal conditioning about female sexualityJoin the Queens Quarters community on venuscuckoldress.com for a free live Q A session on May 13th at 1pm Pacific/4pm Eastern time.Joymode: GREAT SEX SOLVED, NATURALLYUse Code VENUS for 20% off your first order at tryjoymode.com/venus🚀 Support your erection quality💪 Perform with confidence❤️Venus Connections❤️ - Matchmaking for loving cuckolding relationships and female-led relationships. Learn more at https://www.venusconnections.com/ 👑♠️ Maison De Neige is high end lifestyle and streetwear fashion with a passion for the beauty of interracial combined with high fashion. Visit https://www.maisondeneige.com/ ❤️xoafterglow.com❤️ Meet the platform for ethical porn. Made by women, for women (and everyone). We make and share videos that portray sex accurately and treat performers with dignity, because nothing is sexier than consent. Use code VENUS for a free 7 day trial at ➡️ https://afterglow.ubpages.com/venus/Support the showDestination Links for Venus - https://lnk.bio/VenusPodcast
Transcript
Hey, are you looking for a hot wife? Maybe you're looking for a cuckold relationship. Then you need to join Venus Connections matchmaking service. It's totally private, it's fun blind dates, and all members are vetted. And it works. There was even a wedding last year and there'll be another one next year. It's definitely hard to find your life partner. I know. And it's even harder to find this kind of relationship. But you'll never win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket, right? So join VenusConnections.com. That's VenusConnections.com. And find the relationship of your dreams.
Here's what's coming up on the show. I pull up and she opens the back door to the Jeep and they both get in the back. And she says, this is my friend Joe. I'm going to suck his dick. And he started fucking her.
And I was like, oh my God, this is really and it was just it was incredible and then at one point she she got back onto her back in the back seat and i'm still in the front seat with my phone with the flashlight just staring and then in this dark suit and it's dark parking lot around us with the flashlight yeah just just staring and we've had no conversation no like is this okay not okay but we did keep making eye contact with each other just to kind of like channel in like i'm good are you good love you yeah right so um the guy joe he says to me he says he's playing with her pussy he says bring this flashlight over here i want to i want to see this so i signed the flashlight he's playing with her pussy and she squirts everywhere and um she'd only done that once or twice before she does that all the time now but you know we had to learn how and he makes her squirt and i yelled oh my fucking god she squirted everywhere and i actually heard clapping and cheering and that's when i realized the group outside was watching um he just put both of his feet on the door of my jeep and pushed into her as hard as he could and just came oh wow she loved it and i loved it and we didn't say anything we just both kind of looked at each other real you know like whoa and uh you know um he asked us a question that set off a kink for us um that we probably shouldn't have done but we did anyway um but he he asked us he said she's not gonna get is she?
And it made us both start thinking. And we both thought, shit, she is ovulating. Maybe. Oh, shit. This is the Venus Cuckoldress podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all. Let's go. Welcome to the show. i'm your host venus thanks for joining me today i have a show for you this is so much fun this one um this couple becca and drew are gonna join me on the show to talk about their stories, their adventures. And they are a swinging slash cuckolding couple. And what a story it is. It's just fascinating.
You're going to love it. They are going to share some very hot stories. and I mean like hot. You can tell by my voice a few times in this episode that I was excited. I was turned on by their stories of their experiences. It's very memorable. I would definitely not recommend that you listen to this episode in a public place, for the guys anyway, because you're probably going to pop a boner. Just warning you right now, trigger warning. This is a boner episode.
But let me tell you, there's also some really good things to learn about their story, about the advice that they have for others and what it's been like for them. I think you're going to walk away with not just the boner, but actually having learned a lot from them. It's a great, great story. So we're going to jump into that. But first, I just have one event that's coming up that is going to be a live chat that I'm going to do. And it's going to be in the Queen's Quarters community on venuscuckoldrist.com. It's going to be a just a Q&A, another Q&A session. These are really fun.
And we talk about all sorts of things. It's free for anybody who wants to join. It's live. So make sure that you check it out if you can make it. It's going to be May 13th at 1 p.m. Pacific time. That is 4. It's live, so make sure that you check it out if you can make it. It's going to be May 13th at 1 p.m. Pacific Time. That is 4 p.m. Eastern Time. And you can find a link to join or to sign up for the Queen's Quarters community. That's going to be in the show notes for today. All right, that's it for events. Let's jump into the show.
But first, here is a message from my friends over at Joy Mode. My friends over at Joy Mode are on a mission to redefine men's erectile health. They wanted a healthier, all-natural erectile support product, but only had gas station pills and prescription drugs to choose from. So they started JoyMode, and they partnered with best-in-class scientists and biochemistry PhDs to create their performance booster. JoyMode supports increased blood flow for improved erection quality and firmness. It's science-backed.
It's formulated by doctors and phd scientists recommended by urologists and made with clinically proven ingredients joy mode is both an on-demand and daily supplement so you can head into the bedroom with confidence it's discreet it's grab and go packaging it helps you perform your best when the occasion arises. Go to tryjoymode.com and get 20% off with the code VENUS at checkout. That's 20% off and free shipping with the code VENUS at tryjoymode.com. Joyode. It's great sex solved naturally. Joining me on the show, I have two spectacular guests.
I have Becca and Drew who are going to share their stories about what it's like to be in a cuckolding relationship. And I'm really excited for you all to hear this story. Becca and Drew, welcome. Say hello to all the listeners. Hello. Nice to be here with you all. Hi. How are you? Oh, my gosh. Okay. Let's jump in. You guys have been married together a long time. I think you met when you were really, really young, right? Yes. Yes. How old were you? I was 16 and she was 14. oh, wow. So was that your like first ever relationship? I'm assuming it was, right? It was my first.
Yeah, I had a brief one before that. It lasted about a year long. Taught me everything that you shouldn't do in a relationship.
So that was, and so how long have you guys been together now it's 30 plus years 29 years 29 okay it's a long time and so at what point did you get into like the kinky stuff or bringing that up was it right away were you forthcoming about that this part right away We were pretty forthcoming about how kinky we were right away like uh one of the first games we played was uh her first job um at the pizza place her first day she came home with a pizza and played delivery girl you know we're just we're just teenagers um you know so we we knew we were into more than just playing vanilla sex pretty early on.
But I will say we didn't even do it right away. I did make him wait two years. Really? That never happened again. We've never been not having sex since then, but yeah. Wow. And we made out and stuff. My mom used to tell me making out and all the foreplay stuff is never as good as it is before you have sex. So I felt like I really wanted to embrace that. And honestly, that like kind of changed our dynamic because we worked so hard for so long at foreplay that it's something we've never stopped doing. Wow. It's just a habit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's fascinating. Okay. And then, okay.
So how did cuckolding come into the whole dynamic? There was an unfortunate incident when we were teenagers where I made a mistake and I was making out with another girl who happened to have her name.
And I thought that was amusing because I was a child and uh so I went to work that night and uh she made out with my best friend um all night long revenge she had you know when I when I got home she had hickeys all over her breasts and things like that and uh so we were like making up we were having a conversation like saying I'm sorry I did this I'm sorry you did this you hurt me and then I was like well you're not going to be able to forgive this and I showed him my boobs and they were covered in hickeys what was the reaction like well it it's kind of funny because I had this same type of incident happen with my first girlfriend.
And that reaction, I reacted how everyone was supposed to. You know, I got mad and angry and threw stuff and, you know, but this time it was different.
I reacted how I wanted to react, which was to pull her on my lap and suck the hickeys on her titties and i think that's when we both realized that's when that's when we both realized that we were into that we didn't even know what it was called there wasn't a name for it yet i don't think no way yeah i was just gonna ask you that did you know what that was like not at all this was pre-internet days it was the late 90s I mean AOL was coming out but we didn't know anything yet you know you only had actual pornos on VCRs to watch so totally clueless but also like very open-minded to something feels good or this is fun let's let's keep doing it yeah wow so becca did you have any reservations around doing something like or incorporating that into your relationship i i just ask because some women are really like hung up over religion and stuff like that or slut shaming kind of stuff did you have anything any feelings like that i a while, for sure.
Same with even maintaining my virginity for so long, like the moral high ground comes into play. So I think it definitely got, it progressed gradually over the years, you know, step by step and moment by moment. And, and like the liberating and free part of it really came for me when I was completely secure in my relationship and knowing that I am always safe and loved and valued. And that's the most important thing. So fucking is fucking, right? Yeah, exactly. There's a, there's a line there, right? You can, you know, the difference there. Absolutely. So what did it feel like for you, Drew?
You didn't know this was a thing. You guys were going down this road together. What did it feel like for you to go through that? I loved it.
Everything we did, all the little experiences we had, because like in between, we actually didn't start cuckolduck holding until like i think it was like nine years ago when it actually started with uh you know before that we had um what we called you know just regular swinging incidents here and there with other people um but i noticed uh even when we would have uh we had a a couple that we were friends with and we would play with them all the time and i i just i noticed that i enjoyed watching her more than i enjoyed playing at you know certain points um not that i don't enjoy playing but and then you know um and then we had a few different guys come come over to the house here and there.
I was in the Air Force, so she saw a co-worker of mine when she was bringing me lunch one day and she just jokingly said, bring him home. And I did. How did you say that to your co-worker? Were you not like scared or nervous? I was nervous as hell, but we were in our young 20s. And, you know, we talked about sex all the time anyway. And I pulled him aside and I said, hey, my wife thought you were cute. Want to come home and join us? And he thought about it for a minute. And he went, yeah. Yeah, I do. That was that.
Because you're kind of, I don't want to say outing yourself by saying that to your coworker, but now knowing that you are in an open relationship with some people are really taboo, like that's so taboo for them, right? Definitely. In the Air Force, it's pretty common for swingers to be there.
Oh, really it's more it's more of an accepted community i don't know why but there was a lot of swingers in the military that we didn't swing with any of them we just talked to them and observed what they were doing and you know it brought more ideas into our brains and got the wheels turning research well yeah that. Well, yeah, that's what happens is once you start to go down that road, there's so much to learn about it. There's so much out there that is, you know, so many blogs and forums and groups and everything like that.
But Becca, what was it like for you when you guys were swinging and he is sleeping with other women? Were you like, you were good with that? Like, that was fun? Or did you hate it? Yeah. Yeah. I liked it a lot. I always would try to, like, put myself in the mindset of, like, this is real live porn. Like, how cool is that to, like, witness and see that stuff?
And then as time goes on and more you know close in our relationship we are I love him so much that like even if I'm not physically in the moment being pleased watching him be that happy and excited and having fun and that experience is so much fun in and of itself I know he feels that that way too. I mean, so the jealousy, of course, it's got to be there a little bit, but also like just being so confident in who we are with each other. Like we've had such amazing experiences and we still tell each other constantly, but nobody's like you, you know, nobody, nobody's got that. So yeah. Wow.
At what point though, did you figure out that you wanted to actually find a actual bull like somebody who understood cuckolding so we were at a point in our marriage where we were we were talking about it and you know fantasizing about it and um she would tell me um you know this person's hot or this person's hot or, you know, and tease me about it, but she wasn't really, I don't think she was ever really going to act on it. Um, and then her best friend found out that it was a fetish of mine and she, how did she find out? They went to Las Vegas on a trip. Yeah.
And my wife had taken some pictures with, you know, they got those hot strippers there on the strip you take the pictures with. She took a bunch of pictures with them and sent them to me. And that sparked questions. And Becca answered all the questions. And she couldn't believe it. So every time they went out for months, she pounded my wife. What about that guy? So one night they're out on girls night. And there was a guy dancing and dancing really well. And Becca was like, damn, I like him. And her best friend went over and got him, brought him to the table. And it started there.
I got a message that just said, my Biff told some guy, I think he's hot. Now he won't go away. And then about an hour and a half later, I got a text message.
It was a picture of her kissing him on the cheek okay and it just progressed from there um you know I'm at home you know trying to trying to be good not be on my phone bothering people you know and uh I get a I get a phone call it's like 10 30 at night I get a phone call and she says she says to me she goes um she doesn't even say hello she just says hey what's that called when somebody fucks your wife i said it's called cuckold and she yells it's called cuckold and just hangs the phone up so clearly they were already having this conversation so later it was like maybe 1 30 in the morning um i got a phone call from her friend, not even her, from her best friend.
And she was also out with a group of other friends from where we work and her sister. So it was like a big group of people that all witnessed this. Oh, wow. So I got a phone call from her friend that said, you know, hey, we're eating tacos. Come get us. So I knew where that is. So I made my way to the taco place. And when I got there, she was standing. The whole group is standing around in a circle. They're all having a good time, you know, laughing, being drunk. I pull up and she's standing with him and they have their arms around each other.
And I pull up and she opens the back door to the jeep and they both get in the back and she says this is my friend joe i'm gonna suck his dick and i just i just pulled up to the darkest parking spot in the in the thing and she was already going to work and i i just kind of sat there watching kind of mesmerized really didn't process the feelings at the moment i was just like wow it's this is happening and uh it just progressed from there where she uh she got she just i guess got sick of blowing him and turned around he he started fucking her and i was like oh my god this is really happening and it was just it was incredible and then at one point she she got back onto her back in the back seat and i'm still in the front seat with my phone with the flashlight just staring and then in this dark juke and it's dark parking lot around us with the flashlight yeah just just staring and we've had no conversation no like is this okay not okay but we did keep making eye contact with each other just to kind of like channel in like i'm good are you good love you yeah right so um the guy joe he says to me he says he's playing with her pussy he says bring this flashlight over here i want to i want to see this so i signed the flashlight he's playing with her pussy and she squirts everywhere and um she'd only done that once or twice before she does that all the time now but you know we had to learn how and he makes her squirt and i yell oh my fucking god she squirted everywhere and i actually heard clapping and cheering and that's when i realized the group outside was watching like watching the car move it was dark they couldn't see inside besides your flashlight windows and stuff but they they all know what's going on they see the jeep moving half of the group are strangers from inside the taco shop the whole scene is wild and he climbs back on top of her and starts fucking her again and she's she's moaning and coming and i'm i'm mesmerized i you know i look down i'm actually leaking pre-cum through my sweats, which I don't do.
You know what I mean? I'm like, this is insane. And then what he did was this. This is the part that really got me. He didn't ask. He didn't say anything. He just put both of his feet on the door of my Jeep and pushed into her as hard as he could and just came. Oh, wow. She loved it. And I i loved it and we didn't say anything we just both kind of looked at each other real you know like whoa and um i had a i had some shop towels in my jeep and he he grabbed those and was wiping himself up and she just pulled her underwear, didn't say anything.
And I kind of knew what she was doing at that point. I was like, okay, all right. And, you know, he asked us a question that set off a kink for us that we probably shouldn't have done, but we did anyway. But he asked us, he said, she's not going to get pregnant, is she? And it made us both start thinking. And we both thought, shit, she is ovulating. Maybe. Oh, shit. So it set off a breeding kink in addition to the chemical pre-kink for us. Yeah. But he got out. And when he got out, he announced to the group, you know, and everyone's cheering. That's so Las Vegas.
Um, well, we, we were, we were actually, we weren't in Las Vegas at the time. Um, we're here in our hometown here in Colorado. Oh, this is okay. So it's even worse. Cause it's a small town. We're in a small town in Colorado. Right. It's even worse. Um, but her sister came up to her sister and best friend came up to the car. They both made sure she was okay. Um, and then her sister was like, well, I'm gonna go party with them.
I'll see you guys later and we left to go home and uh the ride home was only like six minutes and it was the quietest longest car ride i've ever had in my life okay becca what was that like for you it was interesting for sure it was crazy um um but very cool yeah wait did you what how did you feel about all of the other people outside that knew what was going on did that make you feel weird so so he's saying it like it's a group of like rando people besides the the fact that it was him and his friends those were random from the bar but otherwise you were talking about my three closest girls so it never went anywhere it was a full trust moment you know so totally fine there just the fact that people were watching was oh for sure me so is was it humiliating for you true was it um it it was yeah i was so embarrassed um so i was trying to like you know hide my face while i was driving out of the parking lot you know but um yeah kind of kind of you know it turns me on a bit you know did you do cleanup after that was did that happen well that's the thing when we got home we didn't even she didn't even get out of the jeep i got out and i opened the door for her to get her out you know because i'm a gentleman she's on a date um not with me but she ended the date with me so i opened the door um and she looked at me and she just opened her legs and she said well you gonna do it cock did you say that oh and my head just sank between her legs that's hot as fuck yeah did you say that and my head just sank between her legs that's hot as fuck yeah it was yeah did you i'm becca i'm assuming you knew that he would really really like it if you said that and did that in that moment yes yeah I think I always have but it's also just like a weird skill set of mine that I can just bust out super crazy filthy in the moment dirty talk without much thought process and it's gotten us in trouble in a good way in a few times so Oh my God.
Drew, you won the lottery with her. I did. Oh my God.
oh my gosh drew you won the lottery with her i did oh my god that's hot as fuck yeah it's just the beginning and then and then we kind of dove in after that well yeah after that experience i could see how that would kind of snowball into a uh deep dive into cuckolding yes so where did you guys go after that did you look for a legit like bull or well what happened um at the time craigslist was still operational that's that's how long we've been doing this so we oh i love i love craigslist was the best it really was it's just no no no drama no nothing just how you doing you ugly okay bye you know but so we um we dove into craigslist and we had a few experiences there and they were they were okay you know um they were they were good experiences some were not so great yeah one time and only one time did i have to use my safe word and that was the worst sex I'd ever had in my entire life.
Dude would pump once, flip me, full 360. One pump, flip again, full 360. I'm like, not only will I never come this way, but my vagina is turning to cement. Like fix this now.
And Andrew was like, gotta go you gotta go safe word time so those do happen too but yeah we've only met one guy that we ever called bull um and he set the bar so unbelievably high that it's been hard for us to find anyone to give that title to again you know like do you want me to tell this one from my perspective since you did the last one yeah i sure do because i've never heard from your perspective i've written all of these stories by the way like in like short story format and i've always wanted to release them as an e-book but i a, I'm a nervous one. So.
Oh, you should, you should, you definitely should. Okay. So, so in terms of like being more dominant or hot wife behavior, a lot of those things really just happen naturally for me. I'm an Aquarius. I am strong and independent.
We are a female led relationship relationship really and always have been um okay so let's get that aside it i'm very much not used to anyone else having control in a situation and i didn't know how much i would like it when it did happen so we meet todd online and agree to go meet at a hotel on the finder we met him this is the only person we've ever actually met from any website successfully yeah by the way who like came and really was what he said he was we started in the bar and had a drink i immediately felt very comfortable around him but he also was like off the bat like this is what you want to drink and you should probably only have one drink.
And I was like, what the fuck? Like people don't talk to me like this, you know? But I was falling. I was doing it a hundred percent. Let me follow your instructions. Whatever happens, happens. Right. And he's kind of doing the same thing to Andrew too. We haven't discussed his sexuality yet babe do you want to say that part before i just tell the story or no oh no yeah i'm okay i'm good okay okay so so uh we go upstairs we all immediately undress and we are like blindsided by how absolutely beautiful this man is with the hugest cock I've ever seen in real life. 100%.
Like there was a crooked in it. I'm like, okay, this, this, I don't know how my insides work, but I'm not sure this is going to be compatible. Right. It's that big. Um, but then it was, so he starts off with telling Andrew, all right, cut, go get in your chair and ties him up to the chair. It wasn't even that. They had me undress in front of them while they were fully clothed. And what he had was he had he had two wrist cuffs and he put them on behind my back and he put a collar on.
And then he had a bar that went from the collar to the cups so i was stuck like that and he had me get on my knees beside the bed and wait and that's what i was for most of the night why they you know Transcription by CastingWords interracial black and white the beautiful and sexy relationship dynamic that we love now in a lifestyle clothing brand you can wear with pride don't sacrifice quality and comfort any longer with maison dinege you get both in fresh empowering looks for every occasion for everyone. From the streets to the sheets and everywhere in between.
Check us out at Maison Dinesh, you get both in fresh, empowering looks for every occasion, for everyone. From the streets to the sheets and everywhere in between. Check us out at MaisonDinesh.com. Maison Dinesh Couture, modern fashion for the modern revolution. So he's really good at the floor play too. We do a whole lot of that. We both have given each Thank you.
so he's really good at the floor play too we do a whole lot of that we both have given each other oral sex and we're we're enjoying and going with everything and then he puts it inside me and it was like an awakening like I'd never experienced anything like that and I remember looking at Andrew and we like make these eyes where we communicate with each other like is this really okay you know and i and he gave me a like a funny look that i didn't know how to read and i said out loud if you told me to stop i don't think i could while todd was inside of me that is so hot he thought it was hot too yeah he talked to me about it for a few minutes while they fucked wow asking me you know you think you think do you think she stopped you think you stop her oh my god that is one of the hottest things i've ever heard oh my god he was incredible see he set the bar way too high so high so high ah and then after like literally probably two hours of he and i devouring each other and drew in this crazy uncomfortable position he knew that andrew was bisexual but he hadn't really disclosed to us anything about his own sexuality which is totally fine because of course bisexual men are rare and we have sex with people who are not bi and that's totally fine there's no touching right of course we're consent people right so he didn't really tell us much of anything keep in mind like my number one always favorite kink ever is a dude who will suck dick, who is not necessarily bi.
Right. Okay. I love it. I love it. Same with women, actually like, no, I don't think I am. Oh my God. I love it. This one time. That's great. Good for you. Experience it, you know? So after we do all that, he calls Andrew over to the bed. Okay, baby, you can finish in there because you'll do details better. Yeah, so he calls me over to the bed. Well, first, right before he comes is when he calls me over to the bed. And he calls me over, and he says, I got a question. And he goes, what is this, like, suction cup thing her pussy's doing that's pulling me back in?
Like he's talking to me about the features of how good my wife's pussy feels like it was insane. And she's she left out a very important part in the beginning when they first started fucking. She started screaming. Well, it started real low.
It started with her just going, going god damn and this went oh oh god damn oh oh god damn oh god damn it oh god damn it just kept getting louder and i was like well she's never fucking said that before that that's when this gets involuntary oh i know i know i've been there i said the exact same thing before i know so you know it's a real experience yeah that's truth right there true oh so right right before that and then and then he um and then he comes um and he comes in her um and he pulls out and he immediately just shoves his dick down my throat oh really um yeah and just spends a couple I don't know.
um and he pulls out and he immediately just shoves his dick down my throat oh really um yeah and just spends a couple minutes just fucking my face i mean just using my face for a minute wait hold on hold on because like guys after they come on isn't their dick like really sensitive like i guess not his did not change state at all wow he was a little bit older than us and we've decided since then that he probably took dick pills which good for him because they work so that's probably it we were like 35 and he was like 48 okay we've come to the conclusion that he he must have been on some sort of Cialis.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So he fucked your face. Wow. This is very hot. Okay. And then, and then when he was done, um, he just shoved my face into her pussy and just kind of. Cause you were restrained. You couldn't do anything. He was just. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.
So I cleaned her up and made her come and, and then and and then and then he said well what do you think has he been a good boy she was like of course he's been a good boy and he was like well then we should reward him and that's when they unlocked me and brought me up on the bed for more of a threesome type cuckolding okay which was fun too so okay so you got to have some fun too so wait before okay before you guys went into that you said you know you he didn't really talk to you about the bisexual part or anything like that which was fine but did he talk to you about like was there any discussion about the tying up and stuff like that well the the only hint we really had was the very first conversation um he sent a really nice message that was like you know your guys's profile is really well well done and i'm the one that did it so i was like oh thank you so much you know and he's like your profile is really well done you know she's beautiful you guys are a beautiful couple you know um if you care to message me so we messaged him and of course he sent a picture and when i first saw his his dick pic i was like am i looking at this right and she was like i think so you know because it's just we couldn't tell how big it was we're like all right all right.
You know, um, and then he said, he said, um, take a picture and send it to me. And I told him, you know, I was like, there's a lot of pictures of her on the website. He said, no. I want you to hand her the phone, stand up, take a naked picture of you and send it to me oh of you of me oh and so it was like very dominant and like and we were both like do i listen like you know what so we just did it you know and it was it really hot. And so we that was the first real sign of dominance of how the night was going to go. Right.
And he had he told us he had had cuck experience and we were so new to that piece of it that it was like, OK, how does this work? And just unbelievably enough, when he said something, we wanted to do it. That's never happened ever. The way that he just took charge in the moment in such a non-aggressive, sexy, hardcore way. He made you want to do it. Yeah. Like, even as a cup, because I got that reward at the end, I knew I was going to be rewarded for anything I did. Yeah, he understood the psychology behind every role in the dynamic, right?
I think that's what makes a bull a really good bull is somebody who understands the psychology of it, but appreciates it so much, like loves that role, you know, not just the, Oh, I oh i'm gonna get some pussy tonight but like loves to really fuck around with the mental gymnastics of all of that and like it's so exactly yeah that's what that's what makes it fun all of that yeah so did you see did you guys see him after that or was it just that one time we saw him one other time after that? And that was an amazing experience as well.
Did he kind of go like, like push a little further than the first time or was he, it was similar to that first time, which was like so incredibly hot. Um, it was, it was similar, but different. Um, like he had, uh, you know, That was the first time I ever laid underneath her while she got fucked doggy. Okay. You know, and he kept going back and forth from her pussy to my mouth. And at one point he, he made her come and when she comes real hard, she collapses. Yeah. She'll just hit the bed. She's done. Yeah.
She needs it um for a few don't get crazy i don't cap out so so um except for you know back in october but that was different um so she fell off on top of me and he's just standing there with my his dick in my mouth and uh he looked at her and he did this just for her he said does this turn you on and he laid on Thank you.
just standing there with my his dick in my mouth and uh he looked at her and he did this just for her he said does this turn you on and he laid on top of me in his 69 oh really right so that's never done that with a man before that was very you know it like shifted my thinking from oh you know i just i just kind of like to suck dick a bit to this is really intimate and touching a man's body turns me on, you know?
You know, when you replay it back in your mind, that piece of it too, if he took the psychology to the next level of like making sure to know how I should feel as a hot wife, because he put me in control of that situation even without being touched and talk to me about it the whole time and that's on yes oh he's a really good ball we actually just reached out to him recently and was like if you're back in the area man i need to have him on the show. Really? Like that sounds like amazing. He's had some incredible experiences just beyond us. Yeah, totally. Yeah, that would be great.
He was amazing. But he set the bar so high that everyone else, even people she's had sex with long term, you know, called themselves bull. And we were kind of like, I mean, with a little. With a little, do you, Drew, do you have any of that? Like most guys, if not all guys who have cuckolding fantasies or desires struggle with some sort of shame around that. Do you have, did you ever have any of that? Like, was there any? I had a lot of that. Um, there was a lot of that through the journey. There was a lot of embarrassment, a lot of humiliation, a lot of shame.
Um, but as, as we got more comfortable with it and more people would find out, um, like there was one day, um, we took a couple of friends from work. Um, um these two girls we work with we all went up to this hot springs for the day um how hot springs day and she just happened to decide to tell them both oh yeah you know i fuck other man he's cuckold and you know what i mean and just them finding out you know little things like that um would embarrass me and turn me on. So through the years, it's really become more of a source of pleasure more than embarrassment.
You know, those little humiliation moments or things like that. I mean, they still make me feel embarrassed in the moment.
But later, I'm like, you know okay because like you know um there's so many guys out there especially what women too for sure but the uh the fear that so many guys have and you'll see this on reddit too like just absolute fear of being outed of other people finding out of them losing friends family co-workers whatever just like just gripped with fear around this and I get it like I totally fucking understand but do you guys not give a fuck you're just like whatever well I mean it's been it's been a process for sure and we do we do give a fuck we have lost friends and family knows too it's we've we've kind of come full circle with that um my family is always been very supportive in whatever whatever makes you go be happy be happy you know type of people his family doesn't i think know that and that's probably fine and we've had lots of friends.
And typically what happens with friends when they find out the normal response that we get, which always drives me crazy is I could just never, my husband would never let me do that because my husband just loves me way too much to let me do that. Cringe when I hear that. That's always the initial response. And I want to respond by saying my husband loves me Thank you. to cringe when I hear that. Yeah. That's always the initial response. Um, and I want to respond by saying my husband loves me so much. I do. Yes. I don't know. You know, it's a gift. Yeah.
And then like half of those people that respond that way, um, they'll come to us, you know, a few weeks later, like there was a girl we worked with. She, she found out I was bisexual and she had made some, you know, that's gross comments and things like that. She found out what we were doing and she was like, that's gross. My husband would never let me all the same comments. Two weeks later, we're sitting there at work and she goes, so can you tell me a little bit more about it?
it yeah and I start telling her some things we've done and some stories and she's squirming around in her chair and she was like I mean I'm so wet she was like how do I get how do I get my man to do this wow so true so true the good reactions definitely outweigh like those this is the same girl who had the initial bad reaction who's coming to us going yeah how do i make this happen you know yeah um most people haven't been together for 29 years if you haven't been together for 29 years don't tell me how to make it work at 29 years right you know what i mean yeah and we're happy and in love.
And don't know anybody like that decades in unless they continue to maintain growing and evolving and loving in whatever capacity that is for them but if you're like staying the same all the time and and not changing those people get bored yeah you know yeah that's absolutely right i've always felt like with this kind of relationship dynamic and you guys, your cuckolding is not the center of your relationship. You call yourself what was a polyamorous swingers with a lot of cuckolding themes, right? Which is pretty cool. But I can see how that would never be boring.
Like you've got like a lot of different scenarios that you could try and experiences and all that sort of stuff. Right. We've had all kinds of different scenarios and experiences. Um, and I think the reason we're, we're going a little bit more polyamorous is cause we're, we're at that point in our marriage where, um, and we're, we're still pretty young, you know, we're, you know, we're only mid forties. Um, and you know, we, we've been each other's best friend and life partner and everything, you know, um, our whole lives and life experiences happen.
So like if you meet somebody who, you know, you kind of really connect with, I think we're at that point where, um, we're open to explore those connections. Um, me, me more than her. Cause you know, I, um, to be honest, I, I don't really have the capacity to have more than one. We, we tried it once. It did not go well. Um, but that was a lot of stress on my part, but, you know, um, in reverse, you know, um, if her having a relationship with another man, you know, she doesn't really have to, you know, it would be him putting in more effort, not me putting in double effort. Yeah.
So it, instead of taking away from her, like the, the relationship we tried with a woman did, you know, it would, it would add, add to the relationship. Right. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. And I don't know why it makes my, makes me happy to think about her experiencing something like that, but it does. I don't really understand it fully, but I know it does and I accept it and I like it. That's like a compersion part, I guess, when you feel really, really, you feel joy when someone else you love and care about is experiencing joy. Yeah. There's just something about that. Right. Yeah. Okay.
And so what have been some of the challenges or the difficulties around having this aspect, this dynamic to your relationship, your marriage? Um, you guys are saying like life happens and stuff like that. I'm assuming that there's been some parts of your life where this has kind of taken a back seat and you've, you know, focused more on other things or have there been issues around communication?
Cause like everything that I have learned about this, about cuckolding is that you really need like master level communication and trust and openness and honesty and sharing and all that sort of stuff. Right. How has that been for you guys? You know, yeah, there's definitely been trials and tribulations. The losing relationships is always a crappy thing, especially because those people are judging our morals and integrity. And that's not something that should ever be questioned based on sex and sex alone. You know, the fact our loyalty and commitment to our marriage is better than most.
So it's always like, you know, the audacity I feel like really to get the judgment and it takes that communication with each other and support with each other and always like saying how we're feeling and checking in on everything. We are to the extreme when it comes to aftercare. We like have a ritual of making out to only making love for a few days, a lot of extra attention and affection and communication, a lot of conversation. What did you think about this? What did you think about that? What was this like for you? Sometimes those conversations lead into more sex sessions, right?
And sometimes it's like, oh, my gosh, like, that's a big lesson for me. I'll never do that again if that wasn't a vibe, right? But we continue to do that. And because of that, that's why we've really got to explore. There is no fantasy or situation that either one of us has ever thought of that we haven't shared with each other. And even more so been like, well, let's try and do that. Let's figure it out. You know, you want to be watched? Okay, let's do it outside. How does that work? You know, because it's fun. Yeah. And getting that communication was, was a rough road.
You know, we did, we did have to learn along the way. Yeah. Um, you know, so there, there were issues here and there, but you know, we did work through them, um, learn that communication. Um, you just, I guess in our opinion, you just kind of choose to communicate or not. And that's where relationships build or don't. Yes. Yeah. Cuck holding or not. That's just how relationships work. Yeah. But because we can be so open and honest about that aspect of our lives, it just makes everything else that much easier to be that honest about, you know, instead of like, what's wrong with you?
Are you upset? We're in a bad mood and like just not communicating like couples do it's like oh no specifically this this happened at work today and i'm upset about it let's talk it out about everything because we know that we're in a safe place to do that yeah or even if we don't want to talk about it it's just this happened and i don't want to talk. And you know why I'm upset and you don't have to sit there and worry. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. And so what are some of the lessons, advice, tips that you guys would give for couples who are thinking about cuckolding?
I'm going to, I'm going to say this for the ladies in the lifestyle do a lot of self inner work to destroy what it is we have been told since we were children about sexuality our bodies are our own it is a gift that we get to explore and feel and amazing things happen with our bodies, sexually, all of the above and it's yours no one else gets to have a say in in how that goes there is no such thing as the word slut every good thing in life we have people who are addicted to those things and take it to the extreme sex is one of them it's not a good thing to be addicted to but it's definitely a healthy outlet to enjoy this crazy shit show that is this world right yes do it feel good about it love yourself love your partner and have confidence because you're amazing yeah personally i feel like it's a tragedy when a woman does not get the opportunity to really expand and explore her sexuality in her life like how many women do you know they get married and then that's it they're just with the same dick for the rest of their life like same position same time of the week yeah having an orgasm maybe 10 of the time like right more normal, which is crazy.
I mean, to be quite honest in, in cuckolding cuckoldings made me a better sexual partner, you know? Oh yeah. I see something and I'm like, what the hell did he just do? You know? And I'm on, I'm looking for a book. I'm researching something. I'm asking him like, Hey, what did you just do? You know? Cause I want to learn. That is a really great point, you know? So, I mean, being in the lifestyle has also made We'll see you next time. I'm asking him, like, hey, what did you just do, you know, because I want to learn. That is a really great point, you know.
So, I mean, being in the lifestyle has also made us both way better lovers to each other, you know. Absolutely. Always learning tips like, what did you just do under there? Okay, let me try that out, right? He's Googling, why is her pussy vacuuming, suctioning to his dick? How does that happen? Yeah, it's pretty incredible. Yeah, it's really a gift that you give each other in so many different ways. And that's probably why when you brought it up to that woman who was like, ew, ick, gross, like how could you? Super judgy.
And then she comes back and wants to learn more because she realized this is really an opportunity to expand your own personal growth in your area of sexuality. This is an opportunity for you to really celebrate that side of you. Like you're talking about just the confidence and everything like that. And just Thank you.
your area of sexuality this is an opportunity for you to really celebrate that side of you like you're talking about just the confidence and everything like that and just letting go of the stigma and the slut shaming and all of that shit like that this is an opportunity for you to and it's a fucking gift because like as women we don't normally get that like that's not we don't normally get the opportunity and permission and and everything that consent to be able to go and do that ourselves, but to have a partner who's like, yes, let's do this. I love this. I love this about you.
I feel like as a woman, this is just the best fucking thing. Right? Like having the sex of a woman, but the safety that a man provides in yourself. Great. Right, right. I love it. I love it. I think it's fantastic. Okay. And one of the other things I wanted to say, which I think is great. I love how you guys are really making this relationship your own in your own way. And like, there's so much pressure out there for people to do cuckolding and what other people think is like the right way. And like, it's, it's not real cuckolding unless you do it this way and stuff like that.
And I'm guilty of that in the very beginning when I was trying to learn about cuckolding and like trying to figure out like what's actual cuckolding, what's not, and kind of gatekeeping the, the whole, you can be, you can only be a cuck if you're this way or whatever.
Like, it's just just stupid shit like what has been wonderful for me is to be able to witness uh couples like yourself who have their own very unique style of living this lifestyle and blending it with other aspects of non-monogamy or swinging or whatever and so i think that's really beautiful so i'm really happy to have you guys on the show it's been a it, it's been an amazing journey. I mean, so many stories and things. Can you write this book already? Like I'm working on it. I'm in the editing. I mean, I'm editing the first part of it real quick.
I should probably have heard you that because she's the one who went to college, but I think that'd be fantastic. Cause it sounds like you guys have some hot stories. Like, oh my God. I must say like the highlight has been that one, that story of your first like actual bull. That was hot as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're still trying to get up to that level again. Damn. I need my vibrator after this. Like that was hot. It was incredible.
It was it was an incredible experience um one part of that story that we we left out um I don't know why we left out but one part of the story we left out is um my cock was caged that entire time as well oh wow yeah it was um that was fun as well so it made the experience even more intense for me being in cage. I never really understood them before until that point. And now I understand them completely, you know, with the, uh, just the way it makes your body feels insane.
yeah well you were completely restrained too so right you were restrained you're restrained everywhere right just listening and at one point during, during their sex. Um, so I'm sitting there, I'm restraining my cocks restrained. Um, I'm, I'm actually kind of shaking because of how horny I am, like a, like a dog or something, you know, it was, you know, it was almost embarrassing.
And, um, there was a, there was one point where he was fucking her and I really couldn't see what was going on and i tried to like lean forward to get a better view and he snapped at me and he said he said turn around and face the wall oh and he made me turn away and face the wall while they finished um and all i could see was the shadows and hear it and And it was so intense. It was, I mean. God, he was so good. The man has a skill set. That's amazing. Yeah, he needs to come on the show. So if you're listening, you know who this is. We'll see if we can get him.
That'd be yeah it's okay um that's gonna be it for this episode we have run out of time i'm i'm dying to know if there's a lot of other stories though so i'm sure that there is but maybe i'll have you guys on the show again at some point in time or maybe for a pillow talk event that would be really fun we'd love that but thank so much, Becca and Drew. I really love having you on the show. It's been so fun. Thank you so much. It was wonderful. It was. Yeah. Thank you. That's going to be it for today's episode. Thank you so much for joining me. Make sure you go to venuscuckoldress.com.
That's where you can book a private chat with me. And you can also join the Queen's Borders community and get all the amazing benefits like the private podcast and Be Helpful Cucked here where you can get key holding for the private Snapchat group, monthly private chats with me, and weekly live hangouts and invites to special live events. Oh, and you can also submit a question or confession for the show. Just go to venuscuckoldress.com and click on the link that says the podcast. Make sure you follow me on Blue Sky Social. Yes, I said Blue Sky Social. Fuck Twitter.
My handle there is at Cuckoldress v all right that's it for today's show you guys we is so amazing you've you've probably heard me talk about cuck porn before and how much I'm not really a big fan. And why? Because it's not really made for women, right? But Afterglow is different. Afterglow is ethical porn made by women for women. Well, it's for everyone, but it is especially for women. And I'll give you an example. They have hot wifing videos that one of them is that I watched. It was narrated by a, so hot. It's it's from her perspective from her point of view. Oh my god, so sexy.
Lots of interaction between her and her husband. Lots of eye contact, all that sort of stuff. Like, it's hot. Guys, if you want to get your wife or girlfriend into this kind of thing, watch this together. I'm telling you. But it's not just videos. They actually have guided masturbations. They have partner exercises to improve communication and intimacy. And they have candid interviews with sex educators, influencers, and therapists. Like, there's so much more than just porn videos. It's amazing. Definitely check it out. With the code Venus, you can try it out for a week.
The website is exoafterglow.com. And the code you need for your free week is Venus. That's exoafterglow.com. Check out the show notes if you can't remember if you just want the link. Enjoy.
