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This is the Venus Cuckolders podcast, a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious, for the passionate, and for the kathy k who's joining me from the strictly anonymous podcast and she's going to be talking about all of the guests she's had over the years or callers who have had confessions about hot wifing and cuckolding. And this is actually fucking hilarious episode. I love this conversation. She's so much fun. And of course, there's some great cuck stories in this episode. I think you're going to love it.
But for all of you tuning in in the United States, I hope this show is a nice little distraction for you because holy fuck, what the fuck is going on in the United States? I'm up here in Canada. A lot of people think that this show is American. I'm actually Canadian. I'm up here in British Columbia.
And I'm one of the many people across the world and the whole fucking world who is looking at the united states and going what the fuck is going on there it is disturbing it is shocking it is literally horrific what's happening in minnesota right now and i'm like losing sleep over it this is so fucked up it's so upsetting and i don't know how people are just like whatever about this shit so i hope that today is a little bit of a distraction for you um because like yeah cuckolding is fun and podcasting is great and i love this fucking job and everything like that but this shit is fucked up what's happening in the U.S.
and I would love to be able to travel to the United States and do some meet and greet events and go to Splash Mocha and do all the fucking things and meet all you guys and have lots of fun in the U.S i like have been over the the last several years however i will not like i will not i'm one of the many people who just like hell no and i'll go into the united states and i will not travel there until the fascist regime gets fucked until they go eat a big bag of dicks. So I'm just going to stay up here in cozy little Canada and podcast to my heart's content because fuck that shit. Fuck Trump.
Fuck ICE. Fuck all them fuckers. This is just absolutely horrific. I'm I'm not down for that. So just making my stance clear on this shit, as if you didn't already know. Anyway, a couple of announcements before we jump into the show. I have a live chat that's happening in the Queen's Quarters community that's going to come up.
And that is, your calendars thursday february 26th it's free to join live and it's going to happen at 1 p.m pacific time that's 4 p.m eastern and we're going to be talking about this little blog post that i wrote um called put the it's time to put the megaphone down and hush and this is all about the wording the messaging around cuckolding and Fyndom. So I wrote that, it got a lot of attention, people were really reacting to it, and it resonated with a lot of people. So we're gonna be discussing that blog post.
If you wanna learn more, you can go to venuscuckoldress.com, click on the events tab, and there'll be a page where you can register for free for this event and join in on the conversation or just listen in, in the Queen's Quarters. And also I have started writing on Substack and I've posted something on there about helpful tips on how to talk to your wife about your cuckolding fantasies. This is one of the most common questions that I've gotten over the last decade about cuckolding is how do I bring this up to my wife? How do I get my wife to do this?
So I have some helpful tips on there on Substack and just search up Venus Podcast and you'll find me on there or get a link in the description for the show notes for today's episode. You can find it there. All right, that's it for announcements. Let's jump in to this episode with Kathy Kay. Here we go. Joining me on the show, I have Kathy Kay, host of Strictly Anonymous podcast. And I'm so excited to have you on the show because you have a new book out called Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. Welcome to the show, Kathy. Say hello to all the listeners.
Hi, Venus listeners. I've had you on my show so many times, so it's so much fun to be on your show. I feel like I could sit back and relax and you got to do all the work this time. Great to be here, actually, talking to all your cucks. I listen to your show. I know them well. I know them well. It's so much more fun to be the guest. Totally. I know. Yeah, totally. Well, welcome to the Venus Cuckolders podcast. And we are going to be talking about your podcast and this book because there's definitely some cuckolding sprinkled into the mix, which is pretty awesome.
What inspired you to write this book? Is this your first book or no? Yes. I mean, I did a cartoon book myself. Like, I was always, like, when I was super young, all I read was, like, self-help-y books and books, and I was, like, always into books, and And I was always like, I have to publish a book one day. It was like my lifelong dream, you know? So I did one, myself a cartoon book, like with my relationships and stuff. It's kind of actually really fucking funny and did that many, many years ago, but I, I got an agent, but I never got a book deal.
So I just always like kind of wanted for my own thing to like have a book published by a publisher, blah. And, um, you know, I, I thought, Oh, like, you know, my, I have so many stories. Like I have over 1300 episodes at this point. Right. And each one is somebody's story, life story. And they're all like super interesting. Right. Cause I'm talking all about like ethical non-monogamy, lots of cucks, lots of hot wives, stags, all that kind of stuff. So, you know, I kind of made this pitch, uh, for the book.
I put together a whole proposal and did all the things that you have to do and it was all about like sort of taking the stories from my show and since they're all in interview style like changing them to be from third person and kind of retelling that person's story like as if I was sitting across from somebody and so I pitched that idea and I got an agent and they submitted it and got me a book deal and that's how it came and I was I was just like, just happy to be like, okay, this is like what I've always kind of wanted.
And I think it's super interesting because I would love to get the word out about these kinds of stories that I have on my show. I mean, I always kind of say like, my show is here to say like, not that I think everybody should be non-monogamous or everyone should be a cuckold or a hot wife or should do these kinds of things. But what I think it's really important is for people to know out there in the vanilla world that, you know, not only do these things exist and not only do people do these things, like these things can, people can do them successfully.
I think most people think, you know, the minute you open up your relationship or let your wife fuck somebody else or your girl, you're doomed for failure. And that's not true. You know what I mean? So, you know, this book is a collection of all the different kinds of stories I have on my Thank you.
else or your girl you're doomed for failure and that's not true you know what i mean yeah so you know this uh book is a collection of all the different kinds of stories i have on my show and they're all like some of them you're kind of like what's the point there's no like conflict or anything sometimes it's just like somebody's story about opening up the relationship and living happily ever after but i think that that's important for people to know that that exists and these are like real stories so it's not like cheesy erotica i didn't want it to be that it's really like real people's real life stories of course there's sex in there but there's stories about like non-monogamy and how it can and does work for people yeah sometimes it doesn't work some people ends a little badly but most of them are just like you know this is what like real people are doing behind closed doors you know and a lot of people don't know that people are doing this Thank you.
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yeah i can definitely understand the appeal of people wanting to know what's going on behind closed doors of your neighbors or your co-workers or stuff you wouldn't normally get a glimpse of their sex life listening to your show gives people an idea of actually what are people doing and and it's funny because I think it's it's so important because it actually shows that these kind of outside of the box of what's considered normal vanilla fucking standard relationships sex life stuff is actually more common than just your standard stuff like people are doing lots interesting, wild and fun and different kind of things.
So it's, it actually is, it's a great way to expose that and make it a little bit more mainstream, a little bit more normal for people who think maybe that it's taboo or that it's strange or whatever. Oh yeah, for sure. And listen, I've been doing my show for like maybe maybe 11 or 12 years now. So I have seen things change. Like, I don't think that this book would have gotten out there, you know, even like maybe 10 years ago, or eight years ago, you know, like things have definitely changed.
And this stuff, I think is definitely becoming more mainstream, or people know these things more, but like, I didn't even know about them back in the day. Like, I remember my first guy that I had on my show, he was by far the most popular and I didn't realize why. And his, his, I forget what his, why, how do I, I'm not forgetting his, I'm forgetting his name right now. He's not in the book, but like, he was literally a guy that wanted his wife to like, fuck other guys, you know, and he came on so many times and he was, like I said, by far the most downloaded people were obsessed with him.
I wound up finding out that his stories were all bullshit when he started sending me like stock photos of his fake wife, but he was, but it really made me realize like that this was like this thing about guys wanting to see their wives or their girls, like fuck other guys, like was a thing. And not only was it a thing, it was like a very like popular thing. And the more that time has gone on, the more I'm like, oh, I could have a guy every week on talking about his hot wifing experiences or that he's into that.
And that's what he's doing, you know, because it really is something that's so common with men. And I had no idea. That's always like, if someone asked me, like, what's the number one thing I learned on my show?
It's like that know I always had a lot of guy friends I was always open about sex I felt like my guys friends told me everything but not one of them ever copped to the fact that they wanted to see their girl fuck another guy but it turns out that lots of guys want that it's so it's so like it's like it's like a real thing that exists that it's like a little bit more common than people think who knew that is so funny because i was in the non-monogamy world for like almost a fucking decade right and nobody ever brought up cuckolding nobody ever brought up the one-sided open relationship no one brought it up ever i never heard the word even once and I was like how the fuck is this possible that all these guys have this desire because let's face it it's mostly men it's not a lot of ladies yeah most they have this desire and yet fucking none of them were willing to say anything about it like it's just like heavily closeted on Oh, yeah.
There's so many connotations to the word cock. I feel like there's so many variations when it comes to that word, right? We could probably debate what it means for like 10 full minutes, because a lot of times maybe I use it for guys that maybe aren't so extreme. There's extreme cocks, there's regular cocks, there's dags, you know, but that whole thing of guys just like really getting off on their girl going and fucking somebody else like is very common.
But I think a lot of the times the reason why people weren't willing to like raise their hand because some people on the other side of it that aren't into it, like the stigma I think is like, Oh, you're weak. Like you're you, you know, you allow your girl to go and fuck someone else.
But what they don't understand is it takes a lot of confidence to allow your girl it's like actually the opposite that you know uh these guys are what people you know with the stigma that's attached to it is like opposite of the guys that are really into it and why they're doing it and there's no weakness involved in it at all these guys are typically very non-jealous people sometimes if they're jealous they they know how to turn it into a kink but they just love love, it's like compersion, right? They love to see their girl, you know, uh, uh, be pleasured.
Their, their girl is their porn star. Like there's these things that I hear from every guy that resonates that are all kind of the same. And that's what it's all about. And there's not, there's no weakness in that at all. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I've been saying for years now. And I hope that it's sinking into some people out there that maybe we're changing the stigma that's around that word cuckold. Because my friend Crystal Welch, she says that she's like, cucks are like an evolved species.
like yeah evolved in so many ways but emotionally fucking evolved evolved in um in in in being a like strong person a very strong person and leveling up emotionally as a partner like they are just like um i mean i like you should be fucking proud to be a cuck but unfortunately there's still so much fucking garbage out there online with um degradation around the use of that word, uh, cuck or cuck yeah especially when yeah especially when it comes to fin dom um they're very loud with using that as an insult and even in like you know right-wing fucking conservative political arenas like use that word at cuck as a a slur oh let me tell you my son is ted okay and he gets everything from youtube he has been it's like kind of funny and i think it's kind of cute and i don't really get into it with him but he's been oh that guy's such a cuck and i'm like where the fuck is he getting this word it's like a lingo with kids there it's even coming out like as kids are using it as a slur like to put someone down like that's how much it is out there and you said something else before that um i think uh i wanted to talk about because the other stigma is you said one-sided relationship that's another big thing that people don't get that are on the outside of this world like they think like oh because a lot of times i have hot waves on that are like they go out and they fuck a lot of guys for their guy but they don't want to see their guy with another woman at all you know and i would get so many people when i had youtube and there was a lot of commenting going back and forth being like oh that's not fair that's not fair but i will tell you after talking to so many guys that are into this i would say like the percentage of guys that are even interested in fucking other women that have this hot wife kink that is like 0.01%.
Most guys that are into this could give a shit about having variety when it comes to women. What they're into is seeing their women with other guys. That's the variety they crave. If they craved fucking girls too, they'd be calling into my show as swingers. You know what I mean? I have plenty of people that are calling in that way. They're couple swapping. They're doing all that. That's a different dynamic, but the guys and the women that are calling up doing this, the guy has no desire.
I I'm posting a woman on Monday who literally like she wants her guy to go and fuck another girl, but he doesn't care. And he has no interest and he hasn't set it up. And I'm like, that's, and he's right. Cause that's how these guys roll.
They don't they don't care that's not what they're into yeah so it's not one-sided it's exactly what is perfect for them and everyone's happy you know what i mean it says there's no tit for tat just because she gets to go then he should it's like whatever they're into you know and guys that are into this kink want is they just want that they don't want to go fuck other women too yeah people can't wrap their head around that part though and i didn't either when i first found out about cuckolding from my first cuck boyfriend and yeah i've been in the non-monogamy swingers world for a many many years so i knew the push and pull you have to meet in the middle this is like a constant tug of war to make sure that you both feel like everything's equal right it always has to be to be equal in the swinger land and regular vanilla land.
And so when he told me he did not want the same privilege of sleeping with other women, I was like, what? No way. You're probably too good to be true. It's a trap. I know. I didn't believe him. I was like, most women don't. What? Like, really? I did not understand it. But the longer that it was like that, where it was one side, I was like, well, actually, this is kind of great. Oh, yeah. No, when I have couples on and the guy is into that and the woman then gets on and I talk to them, like a lot of times the woman still has not really believed that her guy has no desire.
And I'm like, no, you don't understand. I talk to these guys on a daily basis out of like 1300 episodes, probably like, you know, 800 are from guys that are into this kid or are living it out. Right. And, um, or lying about it. That's the big thing. That's the number one topic that guys lie about on my show is having a hot wife. Cause it's like their biggest fantasy, but I always have to tell the wife, like, no, you don't understand. Like you could believe him. Like, I know it's harder if you're in the relationship to actually believe that.
But I know because these guys have no reason to lie to me. There isn't a desire. It's not a trap. It isn't about that. It's not a tit for tat. And it's not, it's even in that everyone's happy. It's not like the guy isn't getting something out of it, you know, at all. They're getting a lot out of it. Of course. Yeah. It's their porn.
You know, I had a guy recently on who said like, you know at all they're getting a lot out of it of course yeah that it's their porn you know I had a guy recently on who said like you know once his uh wife started doing that because he likes to videotape and everything he's one of those cucks that doesn't like get involved at all he likes to sit there and watch and he doesn't want to get distracted by participating yeah you know and and he doesn't watch porn anymore because he's got his porn like it's his girl is his porn.
And then I was thinking the other day I did a girl talk episode and me and Layla from curious girl diaries, we're talking about like, maybe that's why so many guys are into this because, you know, a lot of times the guy will say, it's like, my wife is my porn star. I could sit back and watch her. And, you know, guys are always like jerking off to porn. Everyone watches porn. Right.
And it's like, you know, you're always like sort of seeing somebody on your outside of the scene but like i think having their girl do it and them being able to really watch a scene makes like it's like the best porn ever right like you already like porn but now here's like real live porn and you get to like fuck that porn star like after she's done so i just think it's like the ultimate yeah yeah right yeah i i totally see how guys can, get off in that way. And they totally do like for, for guys who, who learn about cuckolding and they're like, Oh, that's not fair. Why?
And why is it one one sided open? They have no idea that like how fucking hot and intense and thrilling this kind of relationship is and being able to be part of it.
If even if the guys like just filming or just hearing about it afterwards or whatever like they these guys are missing out these these guys who are just ignorant about the fact that it's one-sided when it's open it's like fuck off but that's so funny that you said it that the biggest lie told or most often on your show is that guys have a hot wife can you you believe I started doing cause like I get really pissed, you know, someone who calls in, they book up a time. So other people can't, they've wasted an hour of my time.
And then like, you know, 10 minutes in, I could tell this guy's like full of shit. So I actually started to do, I, you know, the way I sort of stopped being mad at these people is I do factor fiction episodes. Like you're going to waste my time. I'm still going to air it. I'm going to put that episode out. Right.
right i'm not so it's not a waste of time but i put them out as factor fictions and by far nobody's calling up lying about being a swinger nobody's calling up lying about being a cheater no one's lying no woman's calling up and telling me she's been in you know 50 gang bangs like i have a girl in my book who was in 50 gang bangs she's not lying okay you know who's fucking lying guys that have a hot wife those are the only those are my all my factor fiction episodes are guys with a hot wife and it's because they want it so bad but like maybe they can't make it a reality that's how much of a fucking fantasy it is this is fucking hilarious i've obviously come across this over the last decade a lot.
And not only do they lie about these experiences, like I have a community called the Queen's Quarters community online where people can, you know, make posts and read what other people are saying and comment and stuff like that and ask questions.
And even though like I'm very explicit in the guidelines for the community like you you this is not a wank space this is not for here you know exactly still get guys who want to do this fake storytelling oh yeah you know it's not real yeah you know it's not real they're just doing it they're just basically like scripting out this like fantasy and they'll add a question in there like what do you think i should do and you know it's fucking bullshit like you they're just waking with one hand one the other hand is typing on the keyboard they're just like yeah this is so hot yeah you have to figure out how to monetize it anyway like because i told you at first i was like so pissed off because you know that kind of like ruins my schedule i have a lot of people that want to call into my show you're taking an hour now i wasted this whole time you know so i figured out a way to still make it work so you have to figure out a way to make that work because that's always going to happen with this king oh it's i don't know what it is anyway figure out a way to get them like you know it's not how you have work for you because it's because listen, at the end of the day, it is fucking a waste when it's a big fat lie.
Right? Yeah. Oh, I just deleted. I get so annoyed with it. I just delete. I'm like, fuck off. Like, I, I'm just, I gotta say people like my factor fiction episode. Yeah, it sounds fun. It sounds. Yeah. Yeah. They got to suss it out.
So the other thing that I've noticed over the the years you probably don't come across this with your show but that like there's a lot of coercion going on with because going back to what you said about like cugs or guys just really want their wife to do this for them they really want this fantasy to come true and so they'll do anything to make that happen and sometimes they'll do some really shady fucking shit like trick her into it or whatever oh see i don't get much of that on my show like even the ones who lie are never talking that you know i had like one that one story of a guy but it wasn't really it was coercive but it was about having threesomes with his wife So what I find is that the long game actually really works like I have for all those people like trying to use coercion to get like just play like the long game.
It might take that like I have a lot of those kinds of stories on my show. And I love those stories because they tell people in real life like how this can work. I have had so many stories of guys who have got their women who were totally vanilla or totally religious, totally against it. They were virgins when they first married and now they're fucking other guys with them and they love it. You know, and I got, and it was always most of the time I would say, you know, 99.99% of the time, but it's the guy that brings us up first. But a lot of times they have to play the long game.
And one thing you probably know by being in the lifestyle before you were even into this is that like, uh, fortunately for women and unfortunately for men in the lifestyle, you do have to, it is, you have to go by the woman's lead, right?
Because it's, it's never going to be matched to yours like fuck anybody like we're just wired so differently that you know you gotta you gotta go you're gonna go at her speed and that speed is most likely gonna be slower with yours and you can never do like coercion is never gonna work I mean the it has to be about the woman doing it and being into it and most guys that I know that are into the hot wiping thing and stuff like they're because it really is about compersion and they get off on their girl getting off like they want to they don't want it for them to be doing it for them you know I mean where's the fun in that it's like watching porn that's so overly produced right like you want to know that your girl's really into.
And if that's the case, go the right way, do it the right way and get her to really actually be into it. And it could take years, right? Like I've heard those stories, but it could happen. And it just starts with like this initial conversations. And then it turns into fantasy talk. And then it turns into using toys to mock it up. And then it turns into let's just go online and just start exchanging pics and see how you feel. And then the next thing you know, she's fucking another guy in a hotel room for you. You never know.
Or if she says, no, I never want to fucking do this, then you just have to accept it. But you can also say like, can we if it's real big kink for yours, and I get this with like, because I do a fetish Friday episodes. and you know, I have guys that are into some fetishes that maybe like their goal is like, what about just like mocking it up and doing like fantasy role play for your partner? If that's what they're really into anyway, right. You don't have to actually do it. I had a couple that, you know, used a fuck machine.
And so I love to actually have those kinds of couples to ones who have never fully crossed the line or whatever, but live out fantasy in a way that is super fulfilling if you're creative enough you could role play you get a dildo get a fuck machine and pretend another guy's there dirty talk like you could go there right i also think another sort of step into it without crossing the line is that same couple that did the fuck machine they went and um they just started like sending videos and pictures of themselves to other couples online like they went on a site and they and that's like you know listen you're not crossing the line you're not fucking anybody else or doing anything but you know it still lives out some fantasies and it's a fun way to stay monogamous but still have fun and live out your hot fantasies right there's creative ways of doing it to get your rocks off of what you want right and that's like role play talking introducing things without crossing the line and then sometimes what happens is that might change things down the line you never know so many times fantasy talk has led to real life stuff happening without the woman or the man thinking that's where it was going to go you know yeah yeah absolutely i wish more guys would be open-minded to uh being creative like that thinking outside of the box, but it's where it was going to go, you know?
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I wish more guys would be open-minded to, uh, being creative like that and thinking outside of the box, but it's, it's weird. Like, I think, I don't know what it is, but, um, guys feel lots of guys, maybe ladies too, but feel that, um, that they can't truly be a cock or experience this or fulfill this fantasy until their wife fucks some other guy and he watches or something like that. Like feel like, like you, it's like losing your cuck virginity. You can't possibly experience this fantasy for real unless she does that.
It's like, oh my God, can we like fuck off with that shit? Cause like as a woman who loves cuckolding relationships 99 of the fun is everything that is surrounding that event not yeah like where's your creativity where yeah where's your imagination i don't know people like that like they're probably not good and good in bed with anything because i think you know after after you're fucking the same person don't you have to use your imagination don't you have role play? Don't you want to do all those things anyway?
Like you need to be like a little imagination, like a little imaginative in the bedroom. And that comes into play. And I think that's the kind of stuff that really can completely change the game in relationships. And people don't sort of talk about sex enough, talk about their fantasies enough on anything, whether it's a cock fantasy or not, but that kind of stuff could go a long way for real, you know?
And I think a lot of guys are afraid to admit it to their girl because, and I think girls as well are afraid to meet, like admit their fantasies to their guys, but it all it takes is like one person to bring something up. It then allows the other person maybe to bring up what they want to bring up.
And then before you know it, you're finding out things about each other that maybe you never up what they want to bring up and then before you know it you're finding out things about each other that maybe you never knew after being married 30 years i have that story on my show all the fucking time you know yes yeah so you gotta talk about it and put it out there what's the worst that your girl's gonna be like no fucking way but i've had people who have said no fucking way and now they're hot w wiping. So you just don't know. Yeah. Or they're doing something that's kind of parallel to that.
Yeah. Like that's super fun that you never would have gone down that road before if it wasn't for that conversation. Yeah. You could just talk about another guy being there and have that fantasy without ever doing anything. And maybe that makes your wife feel safe enough to just go there. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Have you noticed any other trends? Like is, Oh, or first of all, I should ask you, you've been doing this podcast for a long, long time. You've heard lots of stories about hot wife and cuckolding. Is it something that you find is like trending?
Like, is it, is the popularity increasing with? Well, you know, it's funny because I wanted to do a new series on Sundays called sex in the news. And I was looking for some news stories to, you know, make a list of stuff that I was going to talk about. And there was something about that somewhere, but it wasn't like a reputable enough paper that I'm like, can I really trust these studies done? But I will say, after talking to people for 11 years, 1,346 people at this point today, like literally I could say I've done the study. Okay. Yeah. You've got the data.
You've got the data more than that fucking asshole, Dr. Drew, who always mouths off about shit when it comes to like a non-monogamy and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. I do, because I feel like I've talked to so many people. Um, and say I definitely think like what I think is that it's trending that more people are definitely into it. Yeah. And I think because more people started talking about it and more people started realizing it is a kink and then more people started putting it together. But I think it's like it's there and a lot of guys and it always has been.
And like I said, I knew this early on in my podcasting days because that guy's episodes were, Oh, John was his name, John, his episode to this day, people will be like, Oh, do you still talk to that guy, John? Like they still go back and listen to those episodes. It's like number three out of 1300. Um, so it was like so many guys were into it back then. And I think because more people are talking about it and it's becoming more mainstream, I think guys are putting it together. Same thing with cuckqueening. It is a thing for girls.
And whenever I have a cuckqueen on my show, you know, that's something that's not so much out there, right? There's not all that word. Most people don't know what it means. I have a cuckqueen in my book. I've had cuckqueens on my show. And when they come on, I get a lot of other people emailing me like, oh, and when I heard someone talking about it, I'm like, oh, maybe I'm a cuckqueen, you know, like, and so I think sometimes it just becomes like, it's like kind of like a snowball effect. Like, you know, it's, people are talking about it more and there's more mainstream media out there.
And like, there's podcasts and people are hearing about more. So more people are admitting it, but were they always into it? I think so. Or maybe the seed was always there. I just think that a lot of guys, when they hear about it or think about it, you know, they realize they're into it too. I just think if there was, I wonder like what the percentage is on how many guys are into it versus not. Yeah. Dr. David, or no, Dr. Justin Lay Miller, who wrote the book, Tell Me What You want. He did some, he, he got the numbers, uh, and it was like over half of all the men in his giant service.
tell me what you want. He did some, he, he got the numbers, uh, and it was like over half of all the men in his giant survey that he did have cuckolding fantasies. Um, very few, very few women do. Women are far more likely to fantasize about being the, um, the one sleeping with the other guy than being a cut queen. So a cut queen, for those of you listening who are not sure what a cut queen is, it's like cuckolding in reverse. So it's where the woman enjoys seeing her husband having sex with another woman. So she really gets off on that.
So it's a one-sided open relationship, but on his side, it's open and not hers. so yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Yeah. So it's a lots of lots of guys are fantasizing about cuckolding. And one of the interesting things that he was saying is that, um, it is that, uh, with, for people who have cuckolding fantasies, these are people who tend to have sensation seeking personalities. So they are really seeking the thrill. They're seeking that kind of rush, which makes a lot of sense because that's, I think, it is about compersion, but it's also about a fucking thrill.
Like, it does something that it causes a reaction, certainly in men. I had a doctor friend friend who explained this kind of biological reaction that happens within men when you get this flood of testosterone and other hormones going on when a man thinks about or sees or thinks about his wife sleeping with another man. There's an actual reaction in his body that happens. So I get it. It's fascinating to me. It's just so cool. Yeah. I had Dr. David Lay. Maybe it was him that you're talking about.
Like I remember when he explained and I sort of threw this in my friend's face the other day when he was talking about like, oh, someone being into that. Like, do you think that they're just like perverted or weird or something? I'm like, no, actually what Dr. David Lay explained to me.
And I think you're talking about the same thing is he was like, you know how some people like, you know, the way they get excited is like they need to like go on a roller coaster you don't mean and that like gets them off and those kinds of people need more to feel a feeling right like that's just the way they're wired and some people aren't like I could literally just be next to a roller coaster and hear it and I fucking get off like I am an adrenaline junkie seeker my son hates it I forced him on he was crying and he didn't even like it after he had zero of that in him. You know what I mean?
We really are just wired that way or not. And the people in the way he described and what I was saying to my friend, it's like, no, the people that need this extra stuff when it comes to sex, you know, they just need more like they're, it's like, because they just, that's how they're wired. They need more to feel that kind of feeling. They get off on feeling that much more. And those kinds of things just add to it, you know? So when it comes to sex, it's like, you know, cucking is like that. That person likes roller coasters, the cuckold roller coaster.
You know, some people are fine with vanilla sex, you know, but a lot of people, but a lot of people that are like on my show are not. They need more. They want more. They crave and that's fulfilling to them and there's nothing wrong with that yes i think and it falls in line with it tracks with how like people who are are attracted to this sexual taboos um are attracted to cuckolding because it's such a taboo especially if it's cuckolding with power exchange and humiliation and teasing and stuff like that.
Such a taboo that I can understand how people who have, who, who seek that kind of have that, uh, sensation seeking personality are so attracted to taboo. Cause the more taboo something is the more, that was Dr. David Lay when he came on my show. He talked about the taboo nature of, of cuckolding.
Um, and he was was saying like the more you're told not to want something the more you fucking want it like yeah unfortunate it's unfortunate listen i have cheating i have cheaters on my show too and the sad thing about cheating sex is sometimes it's like so super charged right like it's unfortunate it's you know that it's like it's sometimes better than like the vanilla sex you're having at home with your wife and but like you can't help that sometimes something new or something different gives you a different kind of rush or a feeling right yeah yeah and dr justin lay miller when he was on my show he talked about how like um guys who have cuckolding fantasies he said his research showed that they actually have higher levels of confidence and self-esteem than most people.
So people who are throwing that word around cuck as an insult or a slur is actually a compliment. Oh, I love that. I love to have like really alpha guys on my show that suck dick, really alpha guys that are cucks, really alpha guys that like to wear panties.
Because I do this thing on my Patreon where I get pictures of people too, like anonymous pictures you know so i'll show guys like the most jacked up hottest guy from the gym that you would be like you know you would never believe in like uh you know and tell them like yeah this guy wears panties or yeah this guy loves watching his girl get fucked by another guy and he sits there and watches it you know what i mean this guy loves this and you know because people tend to want to sort of judge a book by its cover, but you can't ever put like, it's not, it's not like a, there's not like a specific kind of guy that likes this.
You know what I mean? It's across the board. And that's the whole thing with my show. It's just like, when you said, like, it's like people want to know what regular people are doing. Like these are regular people.
Like a lot of times people think like people that are into all these things that we're talking about are like these other kind of people like there's some sort of pervert island where like all these weird looking people that you know are dirty pigs exist it's like no they are walking down the street they're like they're your neighbor they're your mother they're your aunt they're the person that's next to you in the cubicle there might be your boss I mean these are all just real regular people and you can never decipher, you know, one from the other.
It's just, it's, it's not about the outside, you know? Interviewing all of these people on your show or hearing all their stories about their confessions around cuckolding or hot wifing, has it inspired you at all to want to try it? Well, this is the interesting thing. I'm so glad you asked because it's so interesting. I never like I was always like, oh, if I wanted to do that kind of a thing, you know, I would be into knowing my guy just like came over after he fucked somebody else. Like, you know what I mean? Like that. I realized I'm a little bit of a cuck queen.
Like I could get off on that. Right. Yeah. And I never thought I'd be interested in going and fucking another guy for a guy. Like I was like, no, I'd want the opposite. You know, my luck would be like, my guy doesn't want to go fuck anybody else. You know, that's like the saddest part of my life. But so I have this guy I've been begging for a long time. I have a son, I'm a single mom. I'm not interested in dating anyone until he doesn't need me anymore. So, but I have someone that services me. Right.
And the funny thing is, and this is so true about what we're talking about, you know, this is a guy that I've known for a very long time. He's been my long-term booty call. He's the person that bangs me out when I need to be banged out, right? He knows what I do for a living. I've never said anything about, you know, he knows what I'm into. He knows what I'm not into. I, of course, never said I was into like anyone, like fucking any other guys or anything.
He's told me he's into that but one time and the way oh by the way the way I realized that I was into the cuckooing thing it wasn't just the person talking about it he once sent me a video of him fucking someone else and I was like oh is this you like you are you saying you like this because like I thought he was like he was sending it to me because he thought it looked like me and he was like oh I'm thinking I'm with you and but I got turned on just by seeing him with somebody else that's when I realized it so recently and after literally I've been begging him for 10 years he never said anything recently we were just talking and I was like oh you know I think like oh you know if I was with another guy I was talking about like my show and how it's changed me and how I do so many things differently like I would never be with two guys before but maybe I would now and like if my guy wanted me to go fuck another girl for him, like I try it out.
Like, why not? Like I just threw that out there. Right. To this guy that I've known for the really, like the longest time. And so like fast forward two weeks or something and I get a video of him. It's him with another girl. And I'm like, and he's like, I wouldn't mind seeing that from you. And I'm like, what are you saying? Do you mean me in the video doing what you're doing in there? Or do you mean me sending you a video of me with someone else? And he said the latter, like meaning he copped to me that he would like to see me with another guy.
And this is someone like, and this just shows that all you got to do is let the other person know you're into it and you never know because this is like two things happened here. First, he revealed to me he was into it. And then the minute he said that, I got like so horny for like fucking another guy before he comes over my house. And like I, and when I said, oh, I do it for a guy, I'm just thinking I would just like throw my guy a bone.
I never realized like that would make me tingly down there like at all but the minute he said it i was like oh my god i'm gonna go i'm gonna go like email my uh i'm gonna make it happen i started to text messaging my old booty call i couldn't make it happen because he's married and he didn't want to cheat all this stuff and i was like oh my god i'll be on it i'm on it and really the thoughts of it and all of of that I was like so fucking into it and I never knew I was we still haven't done it okay but it's on the table and made me realize that I would be into that I not only would I do it for my guy right if he like like I actually the thought of like oh having my like my whole fantasy when he said he was into it be like oh I'd have that guy come over first and then he'd leave.
And then you could come and I videotaped it for you. Like that kind of a thing, you know, it's kind of hot. And so there you go. Who knows? Who knew? I didn't even know. It's inspiration. There you go. Yeah. You just don't know. I didn't even know that I had that in me. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, isn't that weird? Cause I don't think that like what you're into in at one point in your life is like, it's stagnant. I think you grow and change and you come open. Right. Don't you think? Oh, a hundred percent.
If it's not, if you're not getting kinkier with age, just naturally, then there's something fucking wrong. Right. Right. You shouldn't be going the other way. You get kinkier as you get older. Right. Cause I am for sure.
i would have never been with two guys but i'm like i would be open to it now you know i just feel very differently after talking to people you know and i just think yeah you just never know and and you never know with your partner like i said if i i don't think because listen this is a guy i knew for a really long time he never i don't think he would have ever let me know that he was into it if I didn't let him know first that I was down right because he knows he he he obviously knew he was into that right but he never told me because he never heard me say it the minute I gave him somewhat of a green light which was when I just threw it out there that I do it which I didn't even do on purpose right yeah he took the in yeah yeah and then he made me realize I was into it it's like what a fucking domino effect and that's why literally just communicating with your partner, even if you've been with them for 30 years, because this is someone I know for like 20 years, I've been banging for 10, but I know for like 25 years, like communication at any time of your life is like key and could totally change the game.
Yes. Yes. Okay. I want to talk a little bit about your book. So I understand that there's some crazy cuckold hot wife story that made it into the book. What was that all about? There's a few. I mean, there's one really like a real true cuckold. This is a guy named Craig and he was from long time ago. And I got pics, let me tell you. His wife and her friend that cucked him for a long time were, like, they were, like, fucking tens, okay? Because I got the pictures on my Patreon. And he was a true cuck.
I mean, he loved nothing more than his girl to go, his wife, to go out and have boyfriends, fuck tons of guys. Sometimes he'd be on the phone. I mean, like every guy's every fantasy he could imagine you know he got videos one time they you know left the phone open so that he could hear and they were like banging like the famous soccer guys and you know and it was she got her girlfriend in on it you know it kind of has a sad ending because the when the friend wasn't involved she wasn't hot wife in for him but he was a very true cuck, right? In that he never participated.
He wanted his wife to go out. He wanted to sit at home, be sort of waiting and wondering and, you know, sometimes being in the know, sometimes not knowing and then getting her afterwards. And that was like a, you know, I wanted to represent every single person in my story.
So I have a bull, I have a cuck, I have a hot wife then i have like a a hot wife and of course her her husband is a cock because he's on the other side always watching on facetime or whatever and that's ember and then i have betty who started out she's a really interesting story because she started out her guy wanted her to cuck old and then she started gangbang and what's interesting about betty's story is this is like a the other side that sometimes does happen i don't hear this story that often, but Betty, when she said it, I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting from the hot wife scenario that she was like hot wifing for her husband all the time.
Then she started doing gangbangs. I called her gangbang Betty, right? Started off a hot wife, then she was a gangbang Betty. And now she's like, you know, with a younger guy and she's a swinger. And she said, you know, after doing all of that for her husband for so long, cause he was a true cook, too. He stayed at home. He wasn't participating. She was sort of she felt like she was doing all the work. And she realized after they got divorced because she like things didn't work out between them, that when she met a guy who was into swinging, that she actually loved that more.
And I was like, oh, that's kind of an interesting take. Right.
Like she felt like, you know, it was an even in that she was doing all the work kind of and she was wanted somebody to be there with her you know yeah and like that's the thing with hotwives like sometimes they want their guy there sometimes they don't like everyone roles very different and that's why I could hear the same story over and over again on my show but it's always like super unique because everybody is different yeah so those are and it's ember's a hot wife betty's uh you know gangbang betty she started out as a hot wife and then there's cuckold crag and then there's all different i tried to do a little mix of everything that i have on my show you know a different story for each one of those kinds of topics oh and what's great is they could read the story and it's written like a it's very short it's a very a very easy read.
I didn't, I made sure not to use a lot of adjectives because I don't like flowery, overly erotic kind of stuff. Right. I don't want to, you know, but there's sex in there. And, um, what's kind of cool, I think is like, after you hear the story, you could go and listen to the actual episode and hear the real person. Like these are real stories.
These are not, you know, fake real stories these this shit really happened and I made them as real to the only place we took liberty in writing is like a little bit of the sex was like added in right like a little bit to it but like the sex scenes were there maybe some of like it wasn't exactly that he touched her panties or finger or that way but like everything else every fact you read is all from there and you could go and listen to the episode afterwards and hear them and then you could join my patreon and see the pictures because they're all there i have mostly a lot of pictures now of of the people so you could put it like candy's the first one she's a milf and she fucks everybody and she's like hot as shit like you wouldn't believe if you get to listen to her and then see her she's like a tan you know so you could hear the people afterwards and see them want, but, and it's a very easy read.
It's kind of like a penthouse forum short kind of a thing, each chapter. Yeah. Well, that's great. I love that. I love the easy reads ones. Totally. That's good. I like that you did that format. Um, yeah. All right. Where can people buy this book? You can get it now. Uh, uh, paperback and-book is available. I don't know when you're going to air this. The audio book is like in the making as we speak. So the audio book will definitely be out there if you want to hear it. I just have to pick like the hottest narrator.
I decided I don't want to narrate it myself, even though I thought for sure I had to. But, you know, it's available paperback and e-book wherever they sell books. You know, I always tell people Amazon because it's super easy, but it's available wherever you buy books and you could do it, like you could hide it on your computer with an e-book version. It's only 10 bucks or you could get the paperback. And I'll give you a link that you could put, if you can, in the description for Amazon, if you want, or put in your own Amazon, like if you can, can you do that? Yes, yes, absolutely.
I could do that. All right, awesome. And where can people listen to your show and learn more about your Patreon? Oh, they could do that on any podcast app. It's, you know, Strictly Anonymous Confessions. I'm everywhere that they listen to you. They listen to your show, right? We're all on every platform. You could find it. And then the Patreon is strictlyanonymouspodcast.com.
uh no it's patreon slash dot com i don't know everything and like the links to everything if you want to join the patreon afterwards like i don't really promote that i promote that on my show but like they could just there's all those links are in my um uh description what i will say to your audience is if they do get the book what i will do for your audience and i do it for select people is like, you know, if they buy the book and they send me a screenshot of their purchase, I give them access to my discord. My discord has like six to over 6,000 people on it.
We have like, we're, we have like contests on there where there's so many different challenges. It's very X rated. It's super naughty.
People are ho on there it's like we just did a best boob contest we did a bet i mean and my listeners have like my listeners are hot okay like you wouldn't believe the tip that i had to rate on this thing there was like over 200 pictures submitted we did a big did the best dick pic contest all kinds of things there and that's my my discord is is um private nobody could find the link anywhere i vet people to get in by sort of getting them oh if you join my patron if you get my book and that's the way i've sort of built my discord to have like super cool fucking hot people on there because it's my audience right and it's going to be your audience too so if they buy the book they could send me a screenshot of the thing and i'll send them the private link to my discord and they'll get in there too which is fun oh that's awesome you should have a small dick contest for the cucks well actually oh they've been begging me the next one I think is going to be a jizz contest because so many people like whenever they submit in the big boob cons they put they put jizz on the tits we're like oh that's a porn shot but everyone wants a porn shot contest so that's gonna be next we've done the best the best you wouldn't believe the dicks if youicks, if you're a size queen, I couldn't believe, like I fucked a lot of guys in my life and I'm sorry.
Like I didn't see a lot of big dicks in my time. Like not that many, but like on my, like the best dick pick, it wasn't the biggest. It was just the best dick pick contest. I was like, well, every guy has a bit. And these are real pictures. Okay. For sure. These are real people, real pictures. Every guy had like the biggest dick. I was like, oh my God, my listeners have big dicks. I always wonder like how many of these pictures are created by AI though. No. I know. No, we look for that.
We look, there's a guy right now that people are commenting as AI and I noticed there was like four hands in a thing, but no, these are, you could tell the real stuff from the fake. And that's why I believe like my audience that have been listening to my show or like real people, cool people. Like I don't have just anyone getting into my discord. Like those 6,000 people that joined all joined from me and my show. Like I said, either joining my Patreon or joining my thing. So they're not like these fake ass people. Like if it was open, that's what I'd get a lot of that out there.
But out of 6,000 people, it's like one person we have snatched doing a fake AI stuff, but everybody else for sure they are real. Okay. Cause I hear them hooking up and I'm getting the stories on my show now and you can tell they're real. You could just tell the real, I promise you. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh my God. It's been so much fun having you on the show, Kathy. Thank you so much for coming on with me. And I am so excited for you and your new book that's come out. I think it sounds amazing. And I hope you have a lot of success with it. Thank you. You're the best.
Thanks so much for having me on. This was super fun. You're always fun to talk to. I love having, uh, I love having you on my show. So anytime you want to come back. Okay. But this was super fun. Thanks so much, Venus. Thank you.
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