Ever wondered what happens when a fantasy finally turns real—and hits like a freight train? Venus sits down with Sin, a husband who spent years nudging his wife toward cuckolding, only to realize that the script he imagined fell apart the moment biology, nerves, and messy human needs showed up. The night looked perfect on paper: a confident bull, a camera-ready plan, and all the trappings of the “ultimate cuck” scenario. What actually unfolded was performative sex that ignored her pleasure, a husband’s post-orgasm crash into panic, and a hard lesson about consent pressure, comparisons, and the gap between porn and partnership.LinksChristmas Wishlist for Venus: Amazon, YouPay ListSin s Twitter: https://x.com/luna_and_sinPillow Talk with Venus: https://www.venuscuckoldress.com/events❤️Venus Connections❤️ - Matchmaking for loving cuckolding relationships and female-led relationships. Learn more at https://www.venusconnections.com/ 👑♠️ Maison De Neige is high end lifestyle and streetwear fashion with a passion for the beauty of interracial combined with high fashion. Visit https://www.maisondeneige.com/ ❤️xoafterglow.com❤️ Meet the platform for ethical porn. Made by women, for women (and everyone). We make and share videos that portray sex accurately and treat performers with dignity, because nothing is sexier than consent. Use code VENUS for a free 7 day trial at ➡️ https://afterglow.ubpages.com/venus/Support the showDestination Links for Venus - https://lnk.bio/VenusPodcast
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Here's what's coming up on the show. So the angst was gone, and now I was dealing with everything that I had just seen, everything that I'd heard. I just watched some guy pound my wife for, you know, 40 minutes, a feat I can't achieve.
He was bigger than me, lasted longer than me and in my head it was it was like the end like everything that I had feared and we had talked about at the beginning like oh that will never happen I came crashing down in my head it was all going to happen you know she was never going to want to have sex with me again she was totally disappointed in me and she was only ever going to want to have guys like that and so what's the point of having me around and those were all the thoughts like I could not stop them it was just a non-stop flood of what have I done to my life what have I done to my marriage uh I was at one point in time I was like sitting in the on the floor of the shower while she was like rubbing my shoulders and bawling like I ruined it I ruined it we're done this is the Venus Cuckoldress podcast a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious for the passionate and for the sexually empowered woman who wants it all.
Let's go. Welcome to the show. I'm your host, Venus. Thanks for joining me today. And you know what? Over the years, I've had a lot of guys share with me that they have never been cucked before, that they have a real fear around what it would be like, because it's one thing to fantasize about it, and it can be entirely different in reality. And so today's show is a little bit of a cautionary tale when it comes to getting cucked for the first time. But it's also a kind of a roadmap to turning things around and actually making it work for you, for the both of you, for you and for her.
So it's a really good episode for couples and singles, anybody who is curious to learn about what it might actually really be like and what you can do to kind of prepare for something that might be a little bit different, might feel a little bit different in reality. And I am hoping to have this guest on for a Pillow Talk live event in the Queen's Quarters community. So if you want, you can join in and listen in. You can ask questions. It's quite interactive. It's a lot of fun and it's free to be able to join live. So keep an eye out in the Queen's Quarters community.
The link is in the show notes for today's episode. The next live Pillow Talk event that is booked is for Tuesday, December the 9th. So mark your calendars. This is December 9th. It's going to be at 12 p.m. Pacific time. That's 3 p.m. Eastern. And that is going to be with my guest, Carl, who was on the show recently. He was on the show uh that was Stealthy Cuckolding, Tasting Another Man in Your Wife. And what a cool story that was. So he's gonna join me. We're gonna be talking a little bit more about that show. And so I'm sure you guys are gonna be interested in joining in for that one.
It's gonna be great. So have a look for the link to be able to RSVP for that event. It is free to join live. So I'll put the link in the show notes for today. And lastly, well, a second to last, actually, it's just a quick reminder. If you listen to this podcast on YouTube, please don't do that anymore. Please find a different place to listen to this podcast because YouTube has been removing my episodes. I have people emailing me like, oh, it's been a month since you put in any episodes out.
I'm like, actually, no, it's only because on YouTube, they keep taking down my episodes and giving me a strike and they're going to cancel my whole fucking YouTube account at any point in time now. So please, if you listen on YouTube, know that my days are numbered on there. I can also not post any links and I'm definitely missing lots of episodes. So if you listen to it on YouTube, please stop. Please listen on somewhere else. You can listen to it anytime on venuscuckoldress.com or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, basically all of the podcast apps are just even like online, just Google search.
You can listen to it that way. So there's lots of other ways to listen to it. But yep, YouTube is being a pain in the fucking ass for me. And it's not fun. Anyway, last but not least, it is Christmas time. I can't believe it. It's almost Christmas. Every time around this time of year, it just sneaks up on me. But I've had several people asking me about a wishlist, which is really nice because I don't normally share that very much. I certainly don't ask people to buy me things or anything like that. But I have had a lot of people asking me, do you want something as a Christmas gift?
And I was like, oh, that's so nice. So I did put together a wish list. And I will put the link in the show notes for today. If you are one of those people that is just feeling like you want to give back to Venus, hey, why not? I've made a list. So it's there for you. All right, that's it for announcements. Let's jump into this show. You're gonna love it. Here we go. all right joining me on the show, I have my guest. He goes by the name of Sin. And he's going to share a little story about his cuckolding journey. And I'm really excited for this one. Thanks for joining me on the show.
Say hello to all of the listeners. Hi, listeners. How are you? I'm glad to be here. Well, thanks for coming on the show. You sent me an email because I put a post out regarding I don't know. listeners. Hi, listeners. How are you? I'm glad to be here. Well, thanks for coming on the show. You sent me an email because I put a post out regarding, I wanted to talk about post-net regret, which I got a lot of people sending in, like they were like, oh yeah, definitely I want to talk about that and stuff.
And I had a lot of people who I talked to, but very few who actually went through like post-net clarity, post-net regret with cuckolding. So I'm excited to have you on the show because I think that this will be a really interesting story to tell. So, Sin, you are married, correct? I am married. How long have you been married for? Oh, a dozen years. Okay. And you are the one that first brought up cuckolding to your wife, right? Yes. Yep. Okay. And how did you bring that up to her? You know, I didn't really know what it was called. She had never had sex with anybody but me.
and just kind of got the idea that we could explore outside of our marriage, not quite swinging, um, but that she could, you know, try the guys that wouldn't care, I swear. Um, and that, that was years ago when I brought it up and we played with the idea. She was very hesitant.
Um, but we, you know, started with like like looking at apps having her chat with guys just to see that yes she's still attractive yes people still like her um until it you know finally went to acting on it and how long did that take where you had brought it up between where you had brought it up and when you, when she was like, okay, all right, fine, we can do this. You know, realistically, like between talking about it, like role playing it in the bedroom, probably a year and a half to two years of just, you know, I was pushy. I'll admit that. But I was, I can't force her to do anything.
So it was just constantly, you know, a theme. If we were doing something more than just like vanilla sex, it was always in the background. Right. And then her talking to people, that was probably six months before we ever did anything. You know, we got on dating apps. So what's that? Did she, did she, you said you were pushy. Was she getting like annoyed with you or was she ever like, just like fucking drop it or. Oh, oh yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, she, you know, she would tolerate like the fantasy for a while. Like, oh, okay, that's cute. Ha ha ha.
Until I, until I would be like, well, why don't we do it? You know, the fantasy is really fun fun to talk about i'm sure it'll be fun in real life um and she would have to she would have to you know set me down like hey look this is me you're not the one doing anything so yeah let me go my own pace um and that's probably that was probably like a it was cyclic right like she would me down. So I'd take a step back and pretend like I didn't really want it anymore. Uh, but, uh, the, the idea is pervasive. Yeah. Once it's in your head, it's really hard to get out.
So I kept bringing it up and probably pissing her off plenty. This is a common theme. Oh, I'm sure. Um. So that's interesting. Was it, but eventually she was like, all right, fine, I'll do it. Was she like, I'll do it for you or I'll do it like one time or I'll do it to shut you up or she like, oh, I'm going to do it because it sounds fun.
It's probably a hybrid of all of those um if she chimed in she would probably agree with me i'm guessing yeah we had met somebody just to discuss it with them there was no intention of play we just wanted to see what it's like to talk to somebody who had been in the lifestyle as a bowl and he was so cool he was just mellow and really um really genuine and kind and so we met him talked to him and that kind of put her fears um at rest but uh we didn't actually play with him so we met him and then a couple months later i finally convinced her like hey let's do it you know fine let's do it we're adults we can do this um but at that time she didn't want to do the app finding so she had me going through the apps talking to the people doing all the screening and i don't i'm not blaming her it's not her fault that it went bad um but we just didn't know what we were doing so found a guy who uh you know claimed to be like an experienced bull and brought him to our house which again another mistake we made um and then and then she just went through with it i don't know we we didn't know like you could just tell somebody no like if you were to meet somebody today it's totally fine for her to be like I'm not comfortable I'm not doing this yeah so we went through with it with the guy that we met 10 minutes before um okay we're gonna get into that in detail but first I want to back up a little bit when you were trying to convince your wife to do this I know that you were kind of flip-flopping back and forth where you would you know pretend that you didn't want her to do it anymore and then you would bring it up again and doing all that stuff yeah um I just I'm curious to know in your mind I know that it's like a hot fantasy you've probably been thinking about it for a really long time something that you thought you really wanted.
But during that time where you were trying to convince her, was there any, at any point where you felt like maybe this could harm our relationship or maybe it could go bad or where you were like, you know, a bit scared to go through with it? Did that, like, was that part of your thinking back then? Yeah, yeah, it is. And it We'll be right back. Like, you know, a bit scared to go through with it. Did that, like, was that part of your thinking back then? Yeah, yeah, it is. And it was. And, you know, it felt like we talked that through so well.
You know, she reassured me that, you know, she'll always love you, even if somebody has a bigger dick or, you know, has sex better than you. And vice versa. Like, I won't judge you for doing this.
But but with guys we tend to think with our dicks so even though like logic told me there were chances that this could go wrong um that never won that was never the prevailing thought at the end of the day it was like oh yeah that could be risky but we've managed 10 years of marriage we can pull this off okay so you thought okay so you thought you're the foundation of your marriage was so strong that whatever bumps you came across that you'd be you'd be okay you'd be able to figure it out yeah yeah beautifully put did she have any did she talk to you about any kind of fears that she had about how it would affect your relationship?
Oh, certainly. Yeah, I mean, in the two years really leading up to us acting on it, we had countless like late night conversations just laying in bed like, well, what if, you know, the what if game and trying to talk through every scenario that could possibly happen. Did you? That's good that you had those conversations. I'm glad to hear that. Well, they worked to a degree. They got us to doing it. The reality is different than the fantasy. Yeah. But we thought we were ready.
We definitely did, and we had talked it through and she is um far more emotionally mature than i am i'll say that so when she says i'm not gonna leave you because the guy has a bigger dick now in hindsight i i know that um but that was always a fear of mine her fears were largely like you know the the slut shaming or what does that make me if i have sex with someone other than my husband yeah um and there's really no way you can convince somebody that that's not going to be the case uh we trust each other but some of these fears are so deep-rooted societally and culturally that you just you can't do anything about it until you kind of test the water and see what it's like at least that's that's bad advice i hope nobody does that yes that's kind of what we did so let's so let's talk about it because i think there's a lot of things to be learned by from your first cuckolding experience your story of that and how that went um so first of all where did you meet or where did you find this guy you were the one doing the searching for the guy right your wife was not involved with that right but did she have like a criteria that she wanted for the guy yeah i don't want to she did and didn't like largely it was how big is his penis um does he have experience because you know we had listened to podcasts and people are like find somebody who's experienced yeah so he claimed to have experience whether he did or didn't i don't um and she kind of has a look but i know now uh that i could pick the most gorgeous guy on earth, and she's just not going to like him.
And I've given up trying to figure out why. But at the time, I would be like, what about this guy? What about this guy? Until she got bored enough, she's like, yeah, that guy's fine. So that's how we found the first guy. He was kind of a, that guy's fine. Okay. So he was kind of mediocre. She was just like, whatever. Let's just do this.
she's like yeah that guy's fine so that's how we found the first guy he was kind of a that guy's fine okay so he was kind of mediocre she was just like whatever just let's just do this she was probably getting tired of the searching forever and the constant nagging from her husband oh shit yeah oh dear okay so you reached you reached out to him you connected was he local to you? He's about 30 minutes away. Okay. So you reached, you reached out to him, you connected, was he local to you? Uh, he, about 30 minutes away. So. Okay.
Pretty, pretty local, uh, compared to what, you know, many of the bulls around here are. So. Okay. Not close enough that you can get a next door neighbor. Okay. And so you set aside a day and time, you're like, okay, so he's going to come over to our house. And was it a like, just a hang in? It was it was going to be like a hangout? Or was this going to be the she was he was definitely going to fuck her?
so we we had this grand scheme this amazing plan where we would set up almost a timer and it was gonna be 30 minutes he'd come over we'd have a cocktail or something chat for 30 minutes and after 30 minutes she would step out of the room and send me a text like, yeah, let's do this, let's not do this.
It was feeble because once you're in the moment and somebody's there uh she would call herself a people pleaser yeah so she was far more likely to say yes than she was to say no or to stay true to how she felt oh i so understand that yes yeah and so so you know he came over we did that um but the pressure was there um so how did you feel about him how what was your vibe like what did you get from him uh he was a nice guy like for me i was you know really worried about her and at the same time i'm like no way this is finally gonna happen uh so when it came down to like that 30 minute timeline which terrible idea uh and she said yes it's kind of like sweet all right let's do this uh but otherwise he was nice there were no he wasn't like a there were no red flags okay just something like that nothing like that it's just she has a particular type uh and me being her husband i, I can't pick up on what that is.
So, so when you were planning this night, obviously this potentially you're in your mind going to be the first time you've been cucked and, and that she's done this. And did you guys do any of the, like the typical cuckolding rituals of you help her get ready and or buy her lingerie or do that kind of stuff in advance none of that uh she was she picked what she wanted to wear i uh i you know i had like the room ready and like candles and condoms and lubes and toys all that type of stuff i was like the support crew but i didn didn't do any of the picking out what she wanted to wear.
I might have weighed in on something, but I really wanted her to be comfortable. How did that feel to be getting the room ready like that? Interracial, black and white, the beautiful and sexy relationship dynamic that we love now in a lifestyle clothing brand you can wear with pride don't sacrifice quality and comfort any longer with Maison Dinege you get both in fresh empowering looks for every occasion for everyone from the streets to the sheets and everywhere in between check us out at Maison Dinesh.com. Maison Dinesh Couture, modern fashion for the modern revolution. Oh, it's hot.
I mean, even even knowing how the night went it was, it was amazing. Like this is like, uh, the angst, which up until then, you know, you only feel it when you're talking to people, there's a low level angst. Once somebody is over your house and you know, it's, you know, there's a really good possibility it's going to happen.
It ramps up to, you know, like 10 it's wild and so during that time when you were you know peak angst I guess before they started fucking um was there any part of your mind that was like you know like I hope this goes well and like I don't know maybe it won't or were you apprehensive at all or was it just pure like you were turned on you were excited you were like 10 out of 10 let's do this if I could have both 10 out of 10 let's do this and apprehension at the same time I would say yes because I really wanted it to work for her because at that point you know you're in that like cocktail is amazing going on in your body.
This is so fun. And she's still my wife. I still love her. I'm not trying to prostitute her out for my own enjoyment. So yes, I was nervous and I could tell she was nervous. But at the same time, it was so fun. It's such a rush um that one beat out the other okay so the reason why i'm asking is like there's so many guys out there that really really want their wife to cuck them or you know their future wife or whatever they want this fantasy to come true so badly but they're scared because they don't know what it's actually going to be like.
So it's fascinating to hear what that was actually like for you for that first time. Now, did this bull, did he ask you what you wanted as far as like any boundaries or wishlist or any like any kind of vibe that you wanted from him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we did. We had a long conversation. We did have rules early on, you know, like obviously protection wasn't lost. We might have had the, no, we didn't. Early on we had talked about no kissing, but then that just didn't make sense because kissing is kind of intimate.
So we had thrown that one out and we had like, cause you know, I thought I was living out my fantasy and like this guy was, these two were going to perform for me. I know that's not really what I was thinking, but in hindsight, that's kind of how it came out. I wanted him to play like the partially demeaning bull, you know, like the guy who has little comments for me throughout the session. Okay. Um, so yeah, we did discuss some of that and he was, he was on board with all of it. He's like, yeah, I can do that. I'm totally good. I've done that before. I'm the best type thing.
Oh no, I'm the best. Oh no. Okay. Um, so how, how did it start then? I, I'm guessing that, you know, you said after 30 minutes, she came out of the room and she sent you a message and said yes let's do this so what happened after yeah uh then it was um we went to uh we have a unused bedroom so that was the room i had set up we uh we finished and they went together and i followed them and closed the door, and then it started with a very short amount of kissing, and then I don't know how much detail you want, but... Give me all the details. The most vivid thing I remember initially was I sat...
Oh, yeah, we put our own cup chair in the bedroom. It's perfect. Of course.
and so I sat in the chair and they were in front of me and they turned sideways so I could see when she took his pants off and he was part of the rock already and it was as was awesome for me you know she got on her knees started sucking them off and he was looking at me and making comments like oh to her like but you've never had one that big so it was playing out like a porn movie um yeah you know he definitely has seen cuckold porn um but yeah it was pretty fun they did that and then uh they eventually she got naked they both got naked and They started trying as many positions as they could um and from my point of view because i'm not her it looked like she was enjoying herself like he was going hard she was moaning uh he discovered that she squirts okay which she has a little bit of a thing about she's not the biggest fan of it yeah and once he figured that out that's all he would go for oh no he just but it was yeah i mean from where i was at like they probably had sex 30 to 40 minutes they had to take breaks i think he was about to die he was uh he would go as hard as he could and have to like just sit on the ground and catch his breath um so it's kind of weird i didn't expect that um they obviously don't do that in the movie yeah no but the whole time like he was you know doing different poses and i swear i'm misremembering this but i swear he did like the, leg up on the bed.
I was like, oh, my gosh, it was so bad. And, like, he kept looking over. He's like, yeah, yeah, she liked that. Oh, so this sounds like it was absolutely performative, like, for you. This was a show for you.
And probably your wife was doing the performative sex for you but at the time I imagine you picked up on that obviously if you're like oh it was kind of corny like all these you know yeah it felt so forth it felt so forth like I realized that you know hard sex can be hard sex but like the looks over the shoulder and like he was he was focused more on himself um almost very little on her uh you know he would talk to her and say things to her and you know they'd switch positions and they had a little bit of back and forth but it was it was largely he was putting on a show yeah um for the audience i think i mean i can't get in his head but that's that's what it appeared to be you know in hindsight and you were jerking off oh i was was it the hottest thing you've ever seen up up to that point was it oh my gosh yes and i i was like if i had actually been jerking off it would have been like six seconds because, I mean, I had to like take long breaks.
I was like, okay, I'm going to slow this down. I don't want my fun to end. That didn't last. It didn't last. I edged as long as I could and then totally wrecked one of my shirts, which I wasn't planning on jerking off, but I couldn't, I couldn't help myself. It was going to happen. Well, yeah, because they were going at it for a long time. I mean, that's a decent amount, like length of time for fucking, that's really hard. Yeah. And it was really hard. We've actually nicknamed him. We have a little, it's not a little black book.
It's a a very large black book not saying there's a lot of people in there but when you write down our perspectives of every person we've met yeah we omit names but we give them a nickname and we've nicknamed him the jackhammer i was gonna say was it the jackhammer that's exactly what it is that's so funny yeah that style of sex um i mean i'm all for a good hard fucking once in a while but i really not into the fucking straight jackhammer for 30 40 minutes um that's what you see in porn and that's where you see You know, the fake orgasms from women in porn is like, oh, 40 minutes.
Um, that's what you see in porn. And that's where you see the fake orgasms from women in porn is like, Oh my God, getting fucked so hard. Um, but I don't think that, um, in reality, it's not all that enjoyable. I don't think from, for me, I think most women would probably say that it's, you know, they can handle like, it's fun for a bit, but you need to have some sort of like sexual variety when a sensual variety, when it comes to fucking. And it sounds like there was none of that with that experience. No, it went, it went from zero to 10.
Like as soon as she had, you know, sucked him off for a few minutes, it was at 10 and it stayed at 10 except for the times that he was catching his breath yeah he probably thought he gave her the best fucking that she'd ever had meanwhile she's like oh god no yeah he had serious chance syndrome he's like i am the best oh that's a red flag yeah I know now so you were jerking off you ruined your shirt what went through your mind after you came because they were not finished right yeah they weren't finished they probably went like another 10 minutes after that so I I came and then there was there was a letdown a little bit of a letdown that happens you know that wasn't quite the post nut clarity that really hit later once everything had stopped yeah but it was kind of like oh okay well it's still a good show like you know i still liked what i was seeing but uh the high had kind of passed and now it's kind of like okay okay well maybe i'll focus on what she's seeing or you know focus on her as opposed to focusing on myself were you taking any pictures or videos or anything like that yes yes yeah so in between jacking off uh i would tuck my dick away and then go take videos or photos right try different angles yeah this is like the full cuck session i'm just picturing it in my mind we had it planned right like these are all the things you have to check to have a cuck session and and you know almost we almost hit them all right i and I get, I understand why couples want to do that.
They want to basically like check the box for the ultimate cuckolding fantasy for their very first time ever. And I just feel like that's so unrealistic and not just unrealistic, but, um, not going to feel as fulfilling as you expected it would no yeah it's it's not as fun um but the first time like there's a lot of things going to head like this might only happen once right maybe we do this once and it never happens again right um and so you kind of want to hit everything all at once. Like, okay, we have to do this right. Right.
Hindsight, right is a word you get to define as opposed to what society defines. But we didn't know that at the time. Yeah, because your checklist was based on the typical cuckolding porn script, right? Oh, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Okay. So what happened after that? What happened after? So, so like I was saying, this guy was having a hard time. Um, like, I feel like he was about to have a heart attack perhaps because he was going hard.
Eventually, uh, I forget if he had to call it quits or she had to call it quits or we just communally called it quits we're like hey okay what do you call it for the night right yeah tapping out so he actually did not come uh but he you know we kind of just decided okay that's enough yeah he got dressed you know i walked him up to the front door said hey thanks that was really fun he drove off um i bet he took viagra i bet that's what he did he probably took i'm guessing i'm guessing he rubbed one out and took viagra before he came over so he was just not going to come yeah we we analyzed that in depth afterwards like how on earth but yeah no so he didn't come he left uh then I went back to the the bedroom and she was still just laying on the bed and we we cuddled for a while and talked about it and that's like when it really hit home for me did you lick her pussy at all no.
I think by that point in time, I had started to cool down. Okay. And it was also getting back to her and like cuddling her. Like I was dressed, she was naked. I started to like pay attention to what was going on with her as opposed to myself. And, uh, you know, the first simple question, like, Oh, how was that? And her response was something to the effect of like, like, man, like it was, it was just that, you know, it wasn't anything special at all. Right. So no, there was no, I don't even think we had sex afterwards because I had already come.
Um just laid and talked for a while and then went up and took a shower together and just continued talking about, you know, our thoughts about what had happened. Okay. So you guys got into the shower and you're still kind of talking about it. And I understand that it's right around this time that you started to kind of crash and burn emotionally. Is that right? Oh, it was. Yes. Yes. That's a, that's an understatement right there. Yeah. I crashed and burned hard. So what happened? How come this hit you?
Because you seem like up until that point, you know, good like you know everything was cool everything's good and what happened was it was there something that triggered it or is just a flood of emotions i think it was so it's the flood of them you know all the angst had kind of like kind of just crashed in on itself so the angst was gone and now i was dealing with everything that i had just seen everything that i'd heard um i just watched some guy pound my wife for you know 40 minutes Thank you.
Next was gone, and now I was dealing with everything that I had just seen, everything that I had heard. I just watched some guy pound my wife for, you know, 40 minutes, a feat I can't achieve. He was, you know, bigger than me, lasted longer than me, and in my head, it was like the end. Like, everything that I had feared and we had talked about at the beginning, like, oh, that will never happen. I came crashing down in my head, it was, it was like the end, like everything that I had feared and we had talked about at the beginning, like, oh, that will never happen. I came crashing down.
In my head, it was all going to happen. Like we were going to, you know, she was never going to want to have sex with me again. She was totally disappointed in me. And she was only ever going to want to have guys like that. And so what's the point of having me around?
and those were all the thoughts like I could not stop them it was just a non-stop flood of what have i done to my life what have i done to my marriage um and so yeah we're in the shower and i start going through all this in my head i'm vocalizing a lot of it uh it's it's funny because she probably should have been the one like what did i just do but she was really trying to talk me off the edge of a cliff telling me that you know it's okay i don't feel that way it wasn't that good you don't understand i wasn't really enjoying myself but in my head it was over like everything i had built for a decade was over uh i was at one point in time i was like sitting in the on the floor of the shower while she was like rubbing my shoulders i'm bawling like i ruined it i ruined it we're done oh my god you know i ruined our marriage this it's never gonna last i can't believe i did this it'll never be the same and in my head you know she had just had the best sex of her life.
And being a guy, sex is everything. So I thought to her, you know, how could she ever come back from this? How could she ever enjoy sex with me? So it was just a complete crash out. Oh, my goodness. So how long did that last for? and you said you were like inconsolable like nothing she you didn't believe anything she said when she was trying to console you how long did that last for it it was probably oh well I mean the she was able to calm me down that night, but I want to say in my head, you know, I swore off cuckolding. I swore off everything. I will never do that again.
Worst mistake of my life. It probably lasted a couple weeks, perhaps not as bad because she's very level-headed.
She was able to, you know, it basically required me listening to her as opposed to living in my own head yeah and when i when she finally you know got through to me like look i did not enjoy it this guy was a jackhammer he didn't focus on me at all he only wanted to do performative sex and and make it look good and yeah he loved the fact that i squirted which i don't like and and so she had to really talk it through with me like what was going on in her head why it was not spectacular but that didn't really sink in for a couple weeks because this had nothing really to do with your wife this had to everything to do with your own insecurities right yeah oh absolutely yeah i mean this that's kind of the fun thing of cuckolding is you you're actually playing with your insecurities yes you're using them as a fuel for you know sexual gratification more or less um and yeah and so i was not ready for seeing it in person or what that would actually mean for me um yeah it was definitely a bigger hit than i was expecting so was there ever a time before that first experience where you had heard of that kind of reaction where cucks have you know this crash and burn emotionally or like or did this completely catch you off guard well so you know you hear about it because i'd listen to podcasts i'd listen to yours um and i hadn't read any books or done anything like that but i i really thought i'd done my research and i knew that there was the inevitable crash but you know i was, I was like, well, why would I be worried about that?
We have a perfect marriage. We talk everything through. I really thought that there's no way it would happen to me because we planned for everything, right? We had a plan for everything. But when you're dealing with emotion, not logic, those plans just get thrown out the window. Yes. So, and I love the fact that you're sharing this story. I love the fact that we're talking about this because there's so much emphasis put on cuckolding as a fantasy where he's watching his wife have sex. And that's literally the only the definition that you you ever see out there or hear about out there.
But it is so much more complex than just that. And this aspect of cuckolding that requires a deep level of care in almost like emotional, cuck sitting, emotional, cuck caretaking, I should say, that a wife needs to do or some most of the time needs to do because I hear this often with first time getting cucked, where it is really it takes an emotional toll on the cuck. And as you can imagine, if you don't have a a really solid rock solid, uh, relationship with your wife or your partner, um, then that could be potentially catastrophic.
So there's a, there's a lot of responsibility that she has to, with emotional caretaking for her husband during this thing where she's probably not, you know, anticipating that as being a need. But going back to how that all played out, I'm sure that you guys went and analyzed the fuck out of that whole experience and were like, okay, this is kind of where we went off track.
This is where we could have made different decisions that would have turned out better this is some of the mistakes that we made what were some of the things that you guys immediately came up with where you were like yeah we fucked that up we should not have done that oh yeah so there's really um probably two or three main takeaways. The first was we stopped meeting people and planning on playing that night. That was just such a bad idea because I know how pressure works on her. I know how the interest works on me.
Like, you know, a guy's there, they're course i want it to happen uh so we we stopped that now we do uh like a tonic meet and greet like not not even with a potential play like hey we'll meet you at a bar or a restaurant and we'll chat we'll go home we'll think about it then if we want to meet up we'll schedule something so that's one degree of separation that kind of allows her to cool down say like you know what i really like that guy i want to play with him um the other one that was probably the hardest for me was uh she took over finding people um because i i really loved being involved it was fun i'd be like awesome.
You should try this. And I felt really involved in the whole process. Yeah. But for her, she's not, I see a hot guy, I want to sleep with him. And she may think that, but for her to enjoy it, she kind of wants to connect with them before. Yeah.
She plays, not like a boyfriend, but just, hey, I actually know this guy's name and he's a nice person so i feel comfortable with it yes yeah um so with her taking over uh she's able to do that right if she wants to chat with the guy for four months uh she can do that um it still i mean i've calmed down since but i'm always interested like hey do you have any prospects right now how's it going well i'm still a little uh impatient but that was that was a big one right and then another one that wasn't so important but we decided to stop bringing people to our house like it was just there was another weird thing like you just brought a stranger to your house to have sex with your wife in front of you like maybe wait a time or two before you invite them over like that's that's your that's your safe place yeah and so those three things are probably the three main things we instituted after that right and what about the the sexual script because you guys went all full on cuck porn script.
What about that? Was that something that you tossed out the window and you're like, she's just going to do what she wants? Yeah, good point. I forgot about that. It's gone. Completely gone. Now it's just whatever she wants, whatever the other guy wants. I don't even have to be there because I'd rather her just have it feel natural. Performative sex is fun, but it's also fun for her, especially on meeting a guy the first time, just to feel like there's no pressure.
She can do whatever she wants they can do whatever they want there's there's no reason to perform there's nobody to perform for yeah yeah so that those are a lot of really good things that you guys have changed since then but what about aftercare um was that something that you guys were like all right this is what we need to make sure that we do after each time to make sure you don't have that crash yes yeah so i i think i can't tell if that crash would have happened if we had had proper aftercare or not however now i don't sit there and jack off while they're having sex I wait um and then once the person leaves um you know I'll come in and we'll cuddle and we'll talk about it and laugh about the things that went wrong um laughter is good healing medicine and talk about what she liked what she didn't like and then we'll have you know like reconnected reconnection sex and um is that super fun do you like come right away it is it is super fun and yes yes i mean we've done other things uh in addition to that like me going down on her as soon as the person's gone or, you know, like, so some of that has played in there, but we always have, you know, a heart to heart chat.
And then since I'm just horny beyond belief, then we have sex. Yeah. Okay. So that's good. So the reconnection sex afterwards is a thing for you guys now. It is. It's fun. I mean, it's not like, it's not like we couldn't reconnect just by cuddling. Right. Like we absolutely could, but it's also fun for us because we enjoy having sex with each other. Yeah. That is just kind of a fun way for us to just kind of, you know, enjoy what we just did. She's still horny sometimes. I'm definitely still horny.
And so it just allows us to kind of you know enjoy what we just did she's still horny sometimes i'm definitely still horny and so it just allows us to kind of bond and uh go about our day one of the very few cuck porn videos that i actually ever enjoyed watching um was i mean it was like a decade ago now that i saw it and it really was nothing special it was just a um amateur couple the husband filmed this encounter like she was fucking her bowl and um and afterwards the bull left the guy the husband went and put like the camera on the table or whatever to film still film he went over to his wife the bull I guess had just come inside of his wife and uh he went over to his wife and he put his dick in her to have sex and he literally got he got like four pumps in and just like completely lost it And I remember watching that going, that is the hottest fucking thing I think I've ever seen up until that point because I was like wow he's so turned on by his wife right now that he can't control himself even in the slightest and I don't know why that I think I think that started my weird fetish with like premature ejaculation for cocks but I just was like it's so embarrassing for the husband but so hot and like I don't know it's so fun oh I know that is great like you would love to go in there and like perform for another 30 minutes like check it out babe i'm just as good as he is but yeah you just you just went through this crazy horny roller coaster and you feel that warm pussy and you're like and i'm done yeah yeah i'm going to yeah so i could totally see how that would be fucking amazing like such a climactic end to the whole thing.
It is so fun. And fun for her too, to watch you just completely lose your mind. Yeah. And it's probably a relief too, because she probably just went three rounds with somebody.
The last thing she wants to do is go another 30 minutes well I absolutely love your story so much there's a lot to be learned and speaking of that do you have like we're going to wrap this up because we're almost out of time but do you have some tips and advice that you would love to give any other couples who are out there thinking about doing cuckolding for the first time and maybe back in the same shoes that you were in when you were trying to convince your wife to do this? Yeah, I mean, it's probably advice they've all heard before. Obviously, everybody says communication, and that's key.
I don't think you'll understand the level of communication you need until you get into it. You have to be willing to talk about everything uh and then the other thing i think that's helped us is like learn to laugh like you know what not every encounter goes right not everything works if at the end of the day the two of you can laugh it off and move forward together um that's that's the what i would consider success. I love that so much. And you're right.
There is a whole different level of communication that you need to practice in order to be able to really thrive with this kind of dynamic in your relationship. It is not just a, oh, let's talk about it. It's like, oh, let me be the most vulnerable, emotionally naked person I have ever been in my life with you right now, kind of communication, which is really hard for a lot of people. I mean, we're at least men, everybody's trying to be all stoic and I don't have feelings and it doesn't work.
It doesn't work until you can really open up and, you know, discuss how you feel and listen to how she feels. Yes. Yeah.
I love how you said that you were, that what you had to do to get over the emotional breakdown was to actually listen to your wife and what she was saying i love that yeah no i mean she's the anchor she's the one that has been steady the whole time um it was my idea she's taken you know taking it and run with it but if i had kept trying to run the show and kept trying to do things my way um it wouldn't have worked well i'm really happy that you guys have made the changes that you need to make in order to really figure out a way of doing cuckolding that works for both of you but especially what works for her and at the end of the day that's the most important thing so that's great I agree all right that's it for the show today.
We've run out of time. I will include your Twitter handle in the show notes for today. And then maybe, maybe I could have you on for a Pillow Talk live event sometime in the Queen's Quarters community. Not to put you on the spot right now, but we can chat about that. But Sin, thank you so much for being on the show today. This was a lot of fun and I love your story. Thank you. Thanks for having me. That's going to be it for today's episode. Thank you so much for joining me. Make sure you go to venuscuckoldress.com. That's where you can book a private chat with me.
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