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In this episode of the Venus Cuckoldress podcast. Today, I sit down with my friend, the confident cuck, to answer a listener question. I was just curious. So I've heard the word being a cuck, but I've also heard the word of being a stag. And I was wondering if you could explain the difference between being a stag and a cuck, or are they the same thing? I think every stag is a cuck, to answer the question a little bit more simply. Wait, what did he just say?
either they really don't want anybody to associate the negative stigma or they want everybody to know that, hey, they still have sex with their woman. They still have manly fetishes, but they still will go down and clean up their woman after a cream pie and stuff. So there's not really an exact science to what it is. But there seems to be that they don't want the humiliation side of it to be too important. Do you think that stags feel cuck angst or do they not feel cuck angst at all? Is it literally just compersion?
It seems like it's very much that they just don't want the the negative label of the cup there but they definitely when i talk to them about what they feel like with their partners and and the feelings that they have it's 100 okay um so that that's what people say that yeah all all these things are definitely tough but we're all going through the same thing and we're all going to be very interesting welcome to the venus cuckoldress podcast a place to learn all things cuckolding for the curious the passionate and the sexually empowered woman who wants it all make sure you go to venuscuckoldress.com to subscribe to the podcast and check out the venus blog And of course, if you love it, share it.
Now, sit back, make yourself comfortable, and enjoy the show with your host Venus thank you so much for joining me today today's a pretty exciting episode for me because I have someone who's going to be joining me it's my my friend. We've been friends for a little while now. He goes by Confident Cuck and he writes a blog all about the male perspective of cuckolding. And not just that, but his motto is building positivity and confidence for those passionate about a healthy cuck Lifestyle. I would definitely recommend you check out his blog. It's very, very interesting.
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You can also follow us on Twitter at Dating Kinky, and on Instagram at Dating Kinky Official. I look forward to meeting you. Thanks, and have a kinky day. All right, so let's get started. I received this following question from a listener, and afterwards, I'm just going to dive right in with my friend, Confident Cuck, to try to answer it. Here it is. hey so so I was just curious. So I've heard the word being a cuck, but I've also heard the word of being a stag. And I was wondering if you could explain the difference between being a stag and a cuck, or are they the same thing?
And if not, what's the difference in them? Because I'm just curious and I'm trying to find out for myself. Thank you. Okay, so yeah, I got this question from a listener who wanted to know the difference between a cuck and a stag. And I was like, you know what, I can answer this to the best of my ability. No problem. And I have on I think it was like the first or second episode of the podcast. But I'm like, you know what, I should probably get a guy's point of view on this. So I thought, you know what, I'll give you a call. I'll see what your thoughts are on that. By the way, I love your blog.
So awesome. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Yeah, no, it's, it's great. And you have a lot of, of posts on there. A lot of really good posts. You do have one on there about the cuck spectrum. Yeah, yeah, that's actually my most popular post on there too. Yep. Yeah, that one.
That seems like it seems like our listener isn't the only one who has this question it seems like it's a very popular question yeah yeah i get and i can understand that when people are you know learning about cuckolding there's these new terms and stuff like that and then there's just so much variation within it and trying to figure out okay what is what? And so I can understand why that blog post was pretty popular. So first, I wanted to ask you a little bit about your blog. So I love the fact that you've come out with this blog, Confident Cuck.
And I love the fact that you are trying to build positivity around cuckolding so um and also to build confidence for men within this lifestyle i think that's totally key so what was it that inspired you to do this blog um well a lot of it was um the venus cuckolders podcast to be honest i'm hearing you talk about it from a female's perspective and hearing how much you valued it definitely made me feel. And this was like years ago when you started the blog, too.
Just it definitely made me feel very valuable in this and that it wasn't something to be ashamed of as like society kind of pushes out there. So as I started to deal with that myself and kind of grow into that, I've always been very into writing and storytelling. I think that, you know, grand narratives are very influential on people and stuff. And I started to realize how much I enjoyed this and how empowering it felt for me to really embrace this side of myself rather than trying to hide it.
So then I was like, you know what i'm sure i i have to get this stuff out and i'm sure there's other people that would be interested in this and uh i don't know how many how uh how many people i already um have a pretty sizable amount of people that are interested so it was very overwhelming and the positive community that you know is on twitter with like the people that write about this um so yeah it just inspired me to to go more and more um i have been a little bit uh not active it, just with 2020, as 2020 happens.
But I do plan to be getting more into that, maybe even putting it into podcast form as well to go on to it. Because I think the stigma that if you are a cuckold, then it somehow devalues you is very problematic. And it causes a lot of psychological stress and internal anxiety. So I feel like if you can fight that, then you can be a better person, you can be a better lover to your partner, you can be a better cuckold, and you can serve your cuckold just better. And your relationship can just be stronger and you can just be better for that. So yeah, so that's what I would say.
Yeah, kind of like being proud of being a cuck and sort of letting go of that shame that comes along with the stigma that's out there. Would you agree with that? Oh, yeah, 100%. And I realized I've like even people in my personal life from friends and family that I'm close enough with, I've like discussed this and we've spoken about it.
And there really't a negative stigma they're not you know looking to the people that really care about me and that i really care about they're very supportive and we talk about it and it's just oh hey you're into that okay cool well i'm into this other thing um you know and it's uh and i've been surprised there's a few people who are into it as well that i know um so it was interesting seeing that yeah there isn't most people don't really care what you do behind the bedroom and um if you're just honest and open and proud about it yourself then that takes away a lot of the shame because a lot of it's really just in your own head a lot of times when you're thinking oh this is such a bad thing it's most of it's in your head or it's people that you shouldn't really value anyway because they're judging you based on superficial things yeah i totally I totally agree with you on that.
I feel like, and I've thought a lot about this before, I'm like, okay, so a lot of guys have this real cuck fear of anybody finding out because of the shame, because of the stigma. And I wonder in my mind, okay, how real is that? Like, I understand the fear is is real but the rational behavior behind it I'm like I don't know I kind of feel like if you were if somebody was to find out it wouldn't actually be the end of the world and a lot of I pissed off a lot of guys when I wrote about this on my blog because they vehemently argued that and said, no, I would lose my family.
I would lose my friends. I would lose my job. It would be the end of the world. I'm like, OK, well, I get that fear, but I don't really know if that would be the case. So I'm glad that you brought that up. Yeah, from my experience, that's not the only rationale that I have for that is that there are people that are in very conservative areas, especially, you know, in like the South of America, where I happen to be from.
So yeah, down here in the States, there, there's definitely, you know, those conservative people, but I would argue that, you know, if you let their values control your life, you're not going to be happy anyway.
So, so do what you want to do, you know, if to shame you for eating pork or you know having a drink or you know sharing your wife with a you know big strong hung black man then you don't need them in your life you know or you don't need to tell them too you know not everybody needs to know all your business so yeah yeah exactly it's not like you're going out there and advertising it to everyone yeah exactly, exactly. But it's maybe not going to be the end of the world if somebody actually does find out. Anyway, that's a whole nother episode.
But to get back to the question that we had, I wanted to ask you first. So how come you identify as a cuckold rather than a stag? So I think that there's two parts to this. I think that the, that cuck is kind of an umbrella term. Like people use that term all the time and that's the most popular term. So that's kind of an umbrella term for everybody on the spectrum.
And the way that I define the spectrum was from from like least manly to most manly would be sissy beta um cuck and then um stag would be the most one so i think that that's uh i think every stag is a cuck to answer the question a little bit more simply um uh you know that's just what i mean if you like seeing your woman you know get fucked by another man like you're you And that's awesome. And it's great. And we should all, like, unify under that because that's a term that everybody uses. And that's the one that we really have to stop the stigma with. Yeah.
So I so I personally identify as cuck because I find myself right there on the spectrum that it seems like the stags tend to be very either they they really don't want anybody to associate the negative stigma or they want everybody to know that, hey, they still have sex with their woman. They still, like, have manly fetishes, but they still, like, will go down and clean up their woman after cream pie and stuff. So there's not really an exact, you know, science to what it is. But there seems to be that they don't want the humiliation side of it to be too important.
And then me as a cuck, it's not really that I care about the humiliation as much, but I'm very invested in my partner and my woman and seeing her. It's not for me to get off and me to see her with the guys that I want. I want to see her explode out of her own sexual glory that she can come out of it.
Not the not the best words there but i want to see her really embrace her sexuality to the fullest extent um and that power really is what turns me on not me you know seeing it or or getting off in a different way um that level of compersion i believe is the word that i've heard recently that i love really getting off on her pleasure is where i find myself. Um, and I don't mind any of the humiliation stuff. I still enjoy, um, you know, having sex with my partner and stuff.
So that I'm totally okay with going either way on the spectrum in the heat of the moment or with the, you know, um, you know, depending on what my partner's wishes are at that time and place. Um, but yeah, personally, I find myself right, right in that sweet spot there where I really want her to, I want her to have her best sexual awakening that she can. Yeah. So what I really want to ask is, this is what I've been dying to ask a guy. So do you think that stags feel cuck angst or do they not feel cuck angst at all? Is it literally just compersion? They enjoy watching their woman.
They don't feel any of that cucky kind of angst that I happen to really love in a relationship. But what are your thoughts on that? Do you think I am trying to wrap my head around this because this goes back to the whole thing that you just said, all stags are cucks. I'm like, this is such a controversial statement. I made that statement on Twitter one time and holy shit, that was a firestorm. Well, I will take that firestorm. And this is just my anecdotal experience. So if a whole bunch of stags want to email me or message me on Twitter and tell me that this isn't the case, go ahead.
But from the men that I've talked to that identify as stags, they definitely have coke angst. They love it. They get off on it.
Many of them like to go down on their wives after for the cleanup and everything, which, by the way on cleanup was amazing very great episode um uh so the uh but yeah uh i've noticed a lot of men that are in the military actually um use the term stag instead and i think the main reason that you find people using the term stag they don't truly differentiate any of their behavior too much um other than i don't think i've ever met a stag that doesn't um have penetrative sex with uh his woman um but other than that it seems like it's very much that they just don't want the negative label of the cuck there but they definitely when i talk to them about what they feel like with their partners and and the feelings that they have it's a hundred percent cuck angst um so that that's what we need to say that yeah all these stags are definitely cucks like we're all going through the same thing and we're all brothers here very interesting so would you say then that the difference between a cuck and a stag if you know they're very very similar there's a whole lot of overlap but i guess the the only main kind of differences that i can see would be sexual denial being one of them and overt humiliation.
So not necessarily, like I'm not saying teasing is a differentiating factor, but overt humiliation would be. So is it all about or is it all about power and control of the woman like does a stag still feel like he owns his woman and he allows her to be shared or is that it whereas a cuck is like no she does whatever she wants yeah and that's that's a great question too because there's such an overlap between these two uh because I've talked to a lot of stags that feel both ways on this. But some of them love their girl going out and doing whatever she wants and coming home to them.
Other ones, they pick who their woman is going to be with, and they like that power there. But I've also met cucks that people that identify as cuckold that feel the same way there.
So I think it really is just about that that level of humiliation um that they're kind of an uh afraid to embrace which i've talked to a few of them and it seems like behind closed doors they do kind of embrace it um sometimes but there's also some people that identify as cuckold that don't really embrace so i think there's a big end diagram that overlaps fear um and yeah i think that the uh i think that all those differences are there generalized but you can meet somebody who doesn't fall exactly into one of those um which is one of the great things about cuckolding which is why i use that general term for you know all these different things um because in a cuckolding relationship there's so much variety and there's so much level for uniqueness that i think the most important thing in all these things um is to when you're with your partner to communicate and talk about what both of you guys like and figuring out what both of you are into um because maybe for the right girl you will want to go down you know the sissy beta route maybe that's something that turns both you on maybe you don't like that at all and you would always want to be with a girl that just wants more men in her life um you know maybe maybe you're somewhere in the middle of that so i think that the everybody's going to be an individual um but i think that those i think that those things are bimodal they overlap a lot of the times but there's definitely people in the middle that don't don't really fit in in one or the other if you just classify it like that Transcription by CastingWords interracial black and white the beautiful and sexy relationship dynamic that we love now in a lifestyle clothing brand you can wear with pride don't sacrifice quality and comfort any longer with maison dinege you get both in fresh empowering looks for every occasion for everyone from the streets to the sheets and everywhere in between check us us out at Maison Dinesh.com.
Maison Dinesh Couture, modern fashion for the modern revolution. So I read a story recently, I think it was, I don't know, last week or something like that on a Discord server, where a guy who identifies as a stag was telling a story about how he is now feeling like he's transitioning into being what he believes is a cuckold. And what was the tipping point for that was that he had always been the one to arrange his wife's encounters with bulls. Like he was the one who planned everything. He was always the one kind of orchestrating everything, calling all the shots, making the decisions.
She just kind of went along with it and had fun. And they both liked it that way. But there came one instance where she took the reins and he stepped back and it was a weird feeling for him. He had to like adjust to it.
But, but what ended up happening was she told him to leave the room and and he hated it but loved it at that moment and at that and after that entire situation where he is so used to being in control and all of a sudden his wife took that control and was like no you're gonna wait out there and I'll tell you all about it afterwards and that cuck angst that he felt because of that i just when i read this story i was like yes now i can understand what would flip the switch for a guy used to being it quote unquote a stag and now being in more of that cuck role so i just wanted to bring that story up because i found it completely fascinating um the power dynamics in the first of the stag and the cuckold i think are really what um separates the two i think in the stag relationship you have that power dynamic i'm the man and i'm controlling things um even if i'm going down in her after she took you know a cock twice my size all the way deep and i'm eating out her cream pie even if that's the case i'm still controlling it in the driver's seat um and i think that when you embrace the cuckold side you relinquish that to no she's getting off how she wants and i get to be there for the ride um so really letting her be in the driver's seat is very empowering like that um i just said and that it it develops that cuck angst.
But I think that almost all Skaggs have that in the background anyway, like this gentleman did. And that's why it opened it up for him to go there. But I think that what we probably don't see from the story is there was probably so much communication with her partner over doing this multiple times, over him picking out on the right person and them having discussions about this and having late night talks and her teasing him and going back and forth, that that probably built up the communication where once she wanted to experiment in this way, it was okay to do that.
And then if he didn't like it or something, I'm sure he could have talked to her after that and said he didn't. But the fact that they did help them open up a new level because of their communication. And that's the beautiful thing about cuckold relationships is like you said, it's a huge spectrum and it varies a lot. There's overlap everywhere. It's really hard to really figure out where you land on that spectrum because within cuckolding relationships, they grow, they evolve, and you might start on one side of the spectrum and find yourself in an entirely different place.
Later on, each couple is completely unique. But yeah, communication is absolutely key. Trying to figure out what your partner really wants and is afraid to ask for is key as well. Yeah. And I think that that's something I tried to harp on in the in the post that I did there about how these aren't that you should never classify yourself as I am this forever and always just right now. This is how you feel, you know, in this position. I'm a stag, I'm a cuck, whatever.
But if you want to change that, if you want to, you know, do something a little bit more, you know, risque and go a little bit farther on the spectrum, go right ahead. If, you know, if you want to come out that and you want to, you know, just be on the other side and kind of share more intimacy with your partner instead and not have the other stuff, you can do that.
If you want to share intimacy without PIV, without penis and vagina, you know, other ways to, you know, have sex with your wife or girlfriend or, you know, having those other mechanisms and other sexual activities you can do instead of just limiting yourself to that really opens you up. Um, and I think also doing the same thing with the power dynamics, you don't always have to be the one on top. If that's the only way you're comfortable. Okay.
But you know, it, it can be very, even if it's uncomfortable, sometimes it can be very empowering and very unique and very visceral to just accept the, the inverse of what you're used to.
Um, and for your partner, for all the guys out there, it also probably feels really great for your partner to have that power of control and to be able to, you know, for her to be able to take the reins and do that, especially if she says that she's not, not especially if, but if sometimes she says that she's, you know, might be a little bit timid about it and a little bit nervous about doing this, it might be because she's really incised by the idea but scared about what it might do.
So I think that that communication and just making sure that both people, the cuckold and the cuckoldress, that they both want each other to go to new heights sexually, that's the key. And as long as they both have that open, and that's the goal the whole time, then I think that that's how you can resolve all those issues and jump around the spectrum where wherever you feel comfortable. That's where the magic of this kind of relationship happens. It's transformative for both people involved.
But that enormous growth that you both go through connects you on a whole different level that I think you you wouldn't normally ever experience otherwise communication trust love all of those things anyway I've gone on and on and on about that shit before all the great mushy stuff well that's honestly though that is um that that is one of the things what you asked me before about what inspired me to write um all that mushy stuff all that love stuff that that you can have this Thank you.
mushy stuff well that's honestly though that is um that that is one of the things what you asked me before about what inspired me to write um all that mushy stuff all that love stuff that that you can have this great loving relationship and it doesn't just have to be what you see in this porn of you know a girl using a man as an ashtray and like locking the door behind him that no that's not what it is at all um that really opening up to to what it can be in real life instead of just the you know extremes you see on porn, that definitely completely changed the way that I thought about it.
And that helped my own transformative growth. So yeah, I think that's just so important. Okay, so that was my conversation with my friend who goes by The Confident Cuck. You can check out his blog, which is awesome, at confidentcuck.wordpress.com. Or you can reach out to him on Twitter. He goes by the handle at Confident Cuck. That's all for today's episode. Please make sure you check out my Patreon page. The link is in the show notes. And I'm going to have a lot of contests and giveaways and promotions coming up, including the grand prize draw on February 2nd.
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