Why?

sugars2Veteran
Christoval, TX, Us

When you address anyone who disagrees with you as.... illiterate, fucked up mentally, uneducated, racist, dumb as shit, mathematically declined,
unintelligent, mentally challenged, all in only 5 posts.

And you have a problem seeing an issue here....
Maybe you should start using some of those intellectual critical thinking skills that you seem to think only liberals possess.

sugars2Veteran
Christoval, TX, Us

@ero,,, "I'm hoping for a civil discussion"..... Well that just went out the window.
Look back at your last 5 posts on this topic and just maybe you'll see why conservatives can't stand you and people like you.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

Thanks TBR - I ain't that worked up.

This is mental masturbation for me. I am picking on the mentally challenged for entertainment.

So HAVING.

How about this . . .

Why don't we just euthanize? I mean - we could force kill everyone over 70. That would reduce the population as well as be the fiscally soundest. Those 70+ year olds are such a fucking drag on our economy. They are not producing shit, just leeching. Or are you going to argue that you are productive. Because I will probably need to call 911 first, I will fall over and die from laughing.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

You gotta slow down.

Getting so worked up after only 92 posts?

It's a marathon, not a sprint...

Block Nutcal. All the popular kids are doing it...

Thornton, CO, Us

EROTICA, you must be Lawyers. Your argument sucks. Start with stopping immigration and slowing down the birth rate. If you are Lawyers and I am on the Jury your client looooooses just because of your convoluted arguments. Unload 50 buses of illegals in your town on your street.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

Math. The nemesis of conservatives.

I swear conservatives have to be the most mathematically declined group of people.

Legal immigration into the US is about 1mm a year. In 2017 the total number of births 3.85 mm.

Tell people to stop fucking and having babies and you can control population. It ain't the immigrants. Even if it is that 1mm are all women who are so fertile that a sperm can knock her up from 100 yards and she pushed out TWO that year, the population is still growing.

The fact that author of that book is jewish means what? Is that supposed to make it valid? It is just a sensationalist phrase with no basis in reality. Oh fuck . . . that's why conservatives like it. It is Orwellian and means whatever they want it to. Damn. I need to change that from Math is the nemesis to Intelligence is the nemesis of conservatives.

Thornton, CO, Us

"Liberalism is a mental disorder" comes from MICHAEL SAVAGE a political pundit, (and he is Jewish) on the radio, etc. Where would you like our immigration to stop, 400, 500, 600 million or more? Just because we did in the past doesn't make it right in our future. We hung Blacks in the past, should we continue????? Liberals are so out of touch with reality it is awful. They should not be allowed to vote.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@HAVING

Liberalism is a mental disorder – wow, did you cut and paste that from Fox? How original. If only you were educated enough to understand what liberalism means. You might want to call yourself a liberal. You do know that the etymology of liberal means free man. Ahh no, you don’t. You were part of that drug induced school system that NCAL talks about.

Self-preservation. What an interesting concept. Is that code? It sure sounds like it is something to preserve a white only society.

This reminds me of one of my R only friends. He is a nice guy, just dumb as shit about some things. He is enjoying his life posting stupid things about people coming across the border and how they should stay out. I looked at him and said, you realize that you are Italian. You realize that your grand parents came here illegally for the same reasons that the people from Honduras are coming here for – you know, asylum. You realize that America hated Italians as well and barred Italians from entering. Why is it ok for your grand parents and not ok for these?

And one more thing . . . this is not YOUR country just as it is not MY country, it is OUR country. YOU do not get to decide what is right just as much as I do not get to decide what is right. WE get to decide, through democracy, what is right.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

Enemy . . . still a harsh word and an over generalization.
Using your logic, you are my enemy and I should desire to kill you and all your ilk. Why? Because I am a SS kid. My father served and died in Vietnam entitling my mother to widowers benefits and child benefits. This worked well until Reagan decided to change one specific thing, during the middle of my senior year in high school. He ended the benefits at 18. The benefits for me, not my mother, would stay as long as I went to a four year college and would continue for the four years. With his pen, he ended that. I guess he fucked over MY best interest.
Your Obamacare comparison is so full of crap. You may have had a catastrophic plan that was 300 a month, but there was no way you had the same plan that was now 2500. Obamacare wiped out catastrophic plans. They also wiped out insurance companies denying you coverage for pre-existing. If you look at the payout of the catastrophic they rarely paid, they would just claim you neglected to tell them you had a pre-existing.
Your math is so fucked up it amazes me you can count change. Your concept of insurance is so fucked up. SSI is NOT 16% of YOUR pay. Well, if you are self employed technically you pay both sides, but the company gets the write off on their half. Regardless, this is an insurance premium and SS has taken in more money than it has given out.
Your immigrant statement is a red herring. Just right now, a person in some place was murdered by an American citizen. Using your idiotic logic, I should hate all Americans, or is it I should hate all humans? While there maybe ONE or a few cases of an illegal immigrant murdering someone, that is a statistical anomaly.
But back to taxes – that is not a democrat thing – that is a government thing. If the republicans lower the rates by 1% you would now say that 27% is fair and that the 30k in premiums is ok? You clueless man.
I am not going to touch the drug issue because it is so far fetched that I don’t have enough tinfoil to put on to even get into that mindset.

ncalcoupleVeteran
Las Vegas, NV, Us

Errotic what do you call someone that destroys your life? Your are a highly trained doctor and the Democrats want free medical care so they pass Obamacare that destroys your life. Does this not make the Democrats your enemy?

Your daughter is murdered by an illegal that has been deported and is a convicted convicted felon. The state of California is a sanctuary state and protects this man from being arrested by the feds. Your daughter is DEAD shot in the back and the city of San Fransisco lets the murder go to murder someone else daughter. Does this not make the Democrats your enemy?

You believed in the American dream of starting your own business and being your own boss. Obamacare forces you to spend $2,500 dollars a month for something that used to cost $300 dollars a month. Your before tax income is 100k. Government takes half in taxes, most to give other people free checks. SSI is 16% of that gross. Medicare is 3.5% of that gross other payroll taxes are around 3% of that gross. Before income taxes the goverment has taken 22% of your income just to give other people free govemrent checks.

Income tax takes around 28%. You have around 50k left then you have to pay 30k for Obamacare premiums. This leaves you will 20k to live off of. Does this theft of all of ones income not make the Democrats their enemy?

The public school demand that your child is drugged up with Luvox or Ritalin because he can not sit still in class. This is a common daily occurrence in every public school in America. Is this not child abuse? Does this not make the public schools and the Democrats teachers unions the enemy of America's children?

This is the Democrats America. Democrats destroy their fellow Americans and like you just dont give a damn.

Thornton, CO, Us

"Why are fellow American's your enemy. Enemy is a harsh word." "Liberalism is a mental disorder". The reason people like myself have no use for Liberals is they will bring down our Country. Their guilt is awful and self-serving. Liberals don't understand, SELF PRESERVATION. We citizens don't hate, we are just looking out for ourselves. I lock my doors not because I hate my neighbors. I do it to feel and be safe. I have said it for 60 years foreign 3rd world Countries should change their CULTURES and build up their own Countries and NOT come to my Country. SELF PRESERVATION, memorize its meaning, LIBERALS.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

Why did I know the illiterate would miss the complete point.

Why are fellow American's your enemy. Enemy is a harsh word. It is used in warfare.

While I think NCAL is completely fucked up mentally and has made inappropriate comments, he is not my enemy.

ncalcoupleVeteran
Las Vegas, NV, Us

And the Democrats dont give a fuck about their fellow Americans that they destroy every day. Democrats just dont care about the lives they ruin, the kids would cant do basic math or English yet are being graduated from high school.

Democrats dont give a damn about anything but their government checks that they all live off of. How many Americans have to be destroyed before the Democrats actually start to give a damn? How many millions?

ncalcoupleVeteran
Las Vegas, NV, Us

The answer is very simple. If you have a business in America the Democrats destroy you. Right now Obamacare is destroying everyone's small business as designed by Obama and the Democrats.

Dodd Frank law was designed to destroy the life insurance industry and the small banks so Warren Buffet could get his hands on all the cash reserves that the life industry industry has. This has work as Buffet now owns most of the life insurance industry that is left . 1,500 companies are gone.

If you are a doctor Obamacare destroyed you, if you are a manufacture the Democrats destroy you, our their criminal unions do.

The Democrats have turned America's public schools into communist education centers with Common Core.

I could go on but as an American that cares about freedom and the American dream being their for my children and all future generations the Demcorats are the enemy and I would never lift a finger to save the life of a Democrat is a car crash, or what ever. See I an a small business that is cursed with Obamacare health insurance. If I get hurt I am finically ruined for life.

Let the Democrats die.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

Specifics, sugar.

Specifics.

Let's start with an easy one.

Who on the left has called for shooting federal agents in the head?

sugars2Veteran
Christoval, TX, Us

You simply do not see or recognize the same level of hate spewed by the liberals.
Whether you are blind to it or choose not to see it is anyone's guess.
But, still the same.... it is just as prevalent on the left as right.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

I am hoping for a civil discussion and as ATL would say, some enlightenment with this topic :)

Last I checked everyone here is an American. I have no problem telling people that on the political quadrant test I always land on or near Ralph Nader. I have friends that are Ron Paul disciples. I have friends that no matter who has a R next to their name, that person is the messiah. I have friends who love Jill Stein.

NONE of these people are my enemy. We disagree but I don't want to eradicate those that love Ron Paul. I don't want to ship out those that believe the R means messiah. Yet here in these forums and a lot in society, fellow american's want to treat those who are like me as enemies.

Now I know someone will come out and say, "Liberals do this as well." Yes, you are technically correct. There are some liberals who want to see a set of people removed. However, and this is not a cognitive disconnect, it does not approach the level that I see on the purported conservative side. Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham (I almost bought her old house), Ann Coulter, Hannity, Carlson, O'Reilly, Fox News. Now who on the liberal side is like that? Want to say Maher? Meh. He may have said a thing or two but it is not a daily barrage of these are my enemy and he has often called for the Reagan - Tip O'Neil days to come back. It ain't Maddow, it ain't anyone on CNN. Perhaps Cenk Uygur, but I can't think of anyone else.

So why is it because I have a different belief set am I an enemy? The irony is that my belief set is more apt to help than harm, whereas those that want to banish me are more apt to harm than help.