real power .

Nobody in their right mind (living in a nice neighborhood) wants low income housing anywhere near them has zero tondo with race.

So white , asian and hispanic people dont live in " low income housing " ?

"Do conservatives want blacks suppressed? I don't believe so. "

Did you miss the 5 separate mentions at the RNC on how great it is that Trump reversed a rule that would have brought "multi-family", "low-quality" housing to the suburbs? That was a bit of a dog-foghorn, right there.

Cops couldn’t do all this lying cheating stealing raping robbering murdering unless there is help from AGs and judges.without their help cops couldn’t do all this stuff.when ag tell cops what to say in court,and judges know cops are lying and don’t do anything that is corruption.when a cop lyns in court that is obsurtion of justice.a felony in every state.so how many felonies can the state commit just to convict a person of a misdemeanor.when ag ,court clerk ,court recorder, and the judge helps cover it up.you have just been rob by the state.!what is being don about it ,not a damm thing.after all that is how the state makes money .they need cops to bring people to court ,if they didn’t would have job,people will do anything to keep thier job.if it’s a high paying job .you don’t want to lose it.the biggest problem is the courts.agree or disagree,that is my opinion .be safe

Cops couldn’t do all this lying cheating stealing raping robbering murdering unless there is help from AGs and judges.without their help cops couldn’t do all this stuff.when ag tell cops what to say in court,and judges know cops are lying and don’t do anything that is corruption.when a cop lyns in court that is obsurtion of justice.a felony in every state.so how many felonies can the state commit just to convict a person of a misdemeanor.when ag ,court clerk ,court recorder, and the judge helps cover it up.you have just been rob by the state.!what is being don about it ,not a damm thing.after all that is how the state makes money .they need cops to bring people to court ,if they didn’t would have job,people will do anything to keep thier job.if it’s a high paying job .you don’t want to lose it.the biggest problem is the courts.agree or disagree,that is my opinion .be safe

Isn't that what republicans do to people who voted for Obama?

See how it goes . . . it goes both ways.

Are some who voted for Trump nazi's, fascists, white supremacists? Of course. Are all? Hell no.

Are some who voted for Obama, only voted for him because he was black? Of course. Are all? Hell no.

It is the concept of one being equal to all and that does not exist. People find the one and equate it to all.

The people that are rioting? Fucking idiots. The people that are peacefully protesting? Brilliant. The people who are looting? Fucking idiots.

I have said this before and will say it again. If you want to label people for classification that is fine. But let's break some things down.

Do liberals want no military? No. Do conservatives want no military? No. What do we argue over? How big.

Do conservatives want blacks suppressed? I don't believe so. Do liberals want blacks suppressed? I don't believe so. How we go about fixing it is what we are arguing over.

You can choose any issue and find that we are a LOT more alike than we are different. Do conservatives want a social safety net? YES. Do liberals want a social safety net? YES. We argue over how that is accomplished.

So instead of falling into the trap of thinking that the ONE is the many or the all, think it through. I can easily find 100 white supremacists in Georgia that voted for trump. Somehow, I don't think those 100 speak for the ~60mm that voted for him.

“ not you specifically but the overwhelming majority of Dems”

That’s a pretty big brush your painting with Flip. Hell how many here call you that?

Here let me try the argument this way to piss off Bonnie and Mario . . .

All gun owners are murderers and violent psychopaths.

That does not piss me off . Even if the "fucked up kid" part was left out.
I know Im only psycho when playing paintball.
What pisses me off is the misleading information legislators use to try to ban guns and accessories.
Such as "Bump fire stocks" you don't need a stock to do this , some use a rubber band , some don't need to.

@ea, not you specifically but the overwhelming majority of Dems

Isn't that what you Dems do with repubs ? If you vote/voted for trump you're a nazi, racist, rapist ?

Jesse Jackson does not speak for all black people.

The problem with the assertation that BLM is run by a law firm is that it assumes that it is centralized. It also fails to point out that there is no central voice.

Here let me try the argument this way to piss off Bonnie and Mario . . .

All gun owners are murderers and violent psychopaths.

Isn't that the argument they hear when a fucked up kid shoots up a school? Somehow, someway, ONE person out of millions was now the speaker for all of that group?

Again, stop being a fucking computer nerd and thinking binary and absolutes. One # all. One == One. One is a subset of all.

Now let me try the same argument that you are making with the people changed.

All cops are racist murderers.

Isn't that the narrative that is being spewed? Aren't the cops screaming that a few bad apples are giving all of them a bad rap?

Now we can get into centralized versus decentralized if you want. We can get into self-identifying as well. We can get into co-opting as well. We can get into messaging if you want as well.

At the end of the day, does it matter how blm was started? If it gets whites to work on changing systemic issues do you say, "Well, a fucking ambulance chaser started this, so fuck them, I ain't gonna change!" Because if you do, that is fucking stupid. BLM as a decentralized, no spokesperson, the co-opted movement has gotten people to look at systemic issues within our country. That is already a win. Expecting all of it to change overnight is bullshit and it ain't gonna happen. However, to expect incremental change, well that is the path to fixing the systemic issues.

Politicians and businesses are the biggest pussies there are. Both have their self-interest at heart. Their self-interest takes precedent over what is right or wrong. It takes the masses to force them to act and change. You are seeing that happening. When you get the NFL to admit they made a mistake with Kap, that is progress. When you get Nascar to ban confederate flags, that is progress.

Personally, I think I have maybe another 30 years on this rock. I don't think this situation will be pristine by the time I die. I do think though that life for a black person will incrementally get better than it was the year before. Why? Because look at the protestors. This is just like the civil rights act. Sure, there was a TON of blacks fighting for rights, but there were a decent chunk of whites as well. Now what you see is blacks and whites, probably almost equal in representation. That youth will grow up. They will not tolerate the past shit. They will give birth to kids who will follow in their footsteps.

A legend in your own mind.

Your data is crap, as I have explained to you multiple times.

Your methods are even worse.

You are punching well above your weight class.

You are the very definition of Dunning Kruger.

You can call me any names you like, but that does not change the fact that you are an attention seeking dunderhead.

Just go away.

Anyone can see that quote if they wish. Not making this shit up. It a actual fucking quote from an actual news source.

Onehell , show that to the rest of America , see what they think.

WHEC NBC Rochester.

“ Despite what videos might depict, we lost some glassware last night. You can not deny the anger and hurt our community is feeling right now. As always, the actions of a few agitators are amplified louder and louder as videos are shared and conclusions are drawn. We, now and always, stand with those standing against injustice.

Stay safe. Listen. Love.

Ever better.'”

The Angry Vikings militia leader did a speech at the Kentucky Derby on BLM.
Its a must watch for those that think miltia groups are "supremisit".

In my opinion yes , just look at what happend in your area , BLM protesters barging through a restaurant , terrorising people for no reason . Lol .
BLM has certainly made a great impression . They even assault black people .
Great movement they got going.

That’s why he can see a lot of Red on that map.

ER , I agree with your views on BLM .
I am sure a large amount of Americans do also especially after the past couple months .

Being less wrong doesn't make you right.

Lmfao.

Just like your last response.

You can get numbers and data to show anything you want by manipulating they way they are used.

So your 50% is better than 50,000% wrong. That isn’t scientific. That’s fucking reaching for something.

Seriously. You have a problem. Seek help.

"Your data for COVID deaths in the US was to show one persons low ball estimate was way too low. So you went way to high. That’s not data. That is a pissing contest."

Wrong. I went with what I was reading from experts at the time. 70% of people needing to have had it for herd immunity = 200k cases. 1% fatality rate = 2 million dead.

We now know that there is significant Tcell immunity from exposure to similar viruses, so we may hit herd immunity at 30-40%, cutting fatalities to 1 million... which, is pretty much exactly where we are trending at 10,000 a week for 100 weeks.

Being off by 50%, but getting the correct order of magnitude is NOT "way to high". Not when what the prediction was in response to was a prediction that was off by 50,000%.

"BLM was started by women . Its on the BLM website"

And what were those women's jobs before they decided to found BLM. Hint.... public relations for the Crump law firm, hired to sell the false narrotove of the Travon Martin shooting in hopes the lawyer could get paid by the HOA of the PUD where the shooting occured.

Your data for COVID deaths in the US was to show one persons low ball estimate was way too low. So you went way to high. That’s not data. That is a pissing contest.

"What is your data on BLM?"

You don't need much data when their own website states they originate from the acquittal of Travon Martin's murderer... and it is the same people that ran the lawyer's PR campaign in that case... and they focus on the cases where the family heires the same lawyer, and they political pressure of angry mobs continues until the lawyer gets the cash he wants from the city... then the protests move on...

How much data do I need to prove they don't have a political platform for social change that they are fighting for, despite 6 years of promising they are about to transform from political outrage to political activism? How many times does their promise have to not come true before people start questioning their intent to transform from an organization that uses threat of angey mob to blackmail cities into handing over cash into a larger political movement pushing real social change?

My beef with BLM is that they spew hate and anger without proposed solutions to improve things. Everyone who disagrees with that PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me what their proposed solutions are! Please!

They don't funcking have any proposed solutions, because they are not about improving the lives of black people. They exist to use hate and anger to generate angry mobs to black mail cities into cash payments.

Proof? Every fucking BLM protest where they promote hate and anger, with no proposed plan for actually making things better.