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The wife loves creampies, but she is on birth control. It's still hot though.

A small GB, yes but I don't own a uterus, so that part is out.

Before my hysterectomy, I was very fertile, and it hadn't occurred to me to not want to know who the father was, nor did I ever need more than 2 months to get pregnant after going off birth control. One time, I conceived in less than a month.

I've seen "breeding party" porn, and that was HAWT, though!

This is the ultimate fantasy. I don't think I could ever do it but the thought of it is so hot.

MSMOLLY

My daughter submitted a sample, and found out she matches with someone a few states away who, according to the sequence, would be a child of one of my mother's brothers or sisters.

Daughter contacted the guy through FB, and found out he was adopted through a Minnesota agency, about the time may aunts and uncles were of younger child bearing age, and has absolutely no idea who his biological parents might be.

Made for some rather interesting conversation with the Cousins at the last extended family event.

"So you are now mixing two topics into one. If you want to be accurate, let's be accurate. If I submit a sample to 23 and me, as a service, I am prompted if they want me to let them use my information to find other relatives. It is an opt-in service. Other services work the same. There is a kinda weird way to get your data across services, but no, ancestry and 23andMe do not directly integrate and share."

I guess I don't understand what 2 topics I am mixing together. I was simply making a point of how databases aren't now blended, and for the foreseeable future, will not be blended. Thus making the search for the biological father quite difficult. The way I read your post, you were saying that the kid would just have to simply provide a sample, and the father would be found. The same goes for the no mandatory government database post. Not moving any goalposts at all.

"Never underestimate a person desperate for money. Again, my argument is that this is a 18 year decision. So I do not think this is impossible or even near impossible to trace. People text. There are records."

So are assuming that BOB submitted that much traceable information to the couple, without actually asking him whether or not he did?

"The point, still, is that you are arguing today. You are thinking that today is what will be like in 10 years. I am arguing that it will not be that way. My basis is that people will eventually want to submit their DNA to databases to learn more about their DNA and see if they are susceptible to some diseases. That vector, you know, of self survival will overweigh anything else. If you don't think I am accurate, ask Christina Applegate and Angelina Jolie. Science will evolve."

So are you thinking that the privacy laws associated with DNA databases will be stripped away and everything will be open to everyone?
I'm thinking the ACLU lawyers would have quite the problem with that scenario, and we will both be dead before it could get through the Court system.

And as far as people samples to see if they are susceptible to some diseases, that is being widely don today, and those results are part of one of the many medical databases that do not share with anybody. Not even each other.

Let me give you a real life example:

A lady I know quite well was having medical issues (later diagnosed as Ataxia) that the Drs were having a helluva time figuring out. She finally was referred to a University Medical Center to consult with a Genetic Counselor, who took blood samples and sent them to their associated lab.

I also happen to know a Genetic Counselor who works for Eurofins, one of the largest Genetics firms in the world. I asked her if she could also look at the lab findings to see if she conferred with the original diagnosis. Turns out the University is not part of their network, and even with the ladies written permission, the lab that works with the university would not release anything.

The only way the Eurofins GC could do a diagnosis, would be for the lady to submit another sample to one of Eurofins network clinics, and she would gladly read the results. The only problem is that it would cost between $5K and $7K out of pocket for a second opinion. (One of the joys of Medicare)

So the point of my ramblings is that personal DNA information is very highly protected, and probably will be for a long long time.

As I stated in my original post. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

"It would be interesting to learn how many people in here have submitted their spit to a 23andMe type service."

Not touching the rest of this topic, but I and all my siblings and adult nephew and nieces did so, as did my dad. We have a cousin we didn't know about and so do my older sister's kids. It's caused a certain amount of drama.

@BOB

Perhaps I did not explain my point clear enough. I have stated that there are numerous legal ways that would not only protect the donor, but the recipient and the child. I feel that those should be used instead of this random situation that can create a shitstorm of liability, both financially and emotionally.

@DB

"EROTIC
Your hypotheticals have some holes in them.

1. Since our government has not yet required all citizens to submit a DNA sample in order to be put on the rolls, if the father of said child has never submitted a sample, they have no way of finding him."

I never mentioned the government. Why are you moving the goalposts? I specifically stated 23 and me type services. I specifically stated that I feel more people will be using them in the future.

"2. Unless the couple gathered more information than a first name and do you have live swimmers, again, near impossible to trace."

Never underestimate a person desperate for money. Again, my argument is that this is a 18 year decision. So I do not think this is impossible or even near impossible to trace. People text. There are records.

"3. Even if the father had submitted a sample, the child would have to submit one to the same database. 23 and me does not cross match with ancestry dot com, or any other private, medical, or even law enforcement databases. Without a court order, none of these are going to give anything up. Getting a court order for someone who wants to just find out who their real dad is, probably wouldn’t happen."

So you are now mixing two topics into one. If you want to be accurate, let's be accurate. If I submit a sample to 23 and me, as a service, I am prompted if they want me to let them use my information to find other relatives. It is an opt-in service. Other services work the same. There is a kinda weird way to get your data across services, but no, ancestry and 23andMe do not directly integrate and share.

It would be interesting to learn how many people in here have submitted their spit to a 23andMe type service. I suspect it may be higher than you think.

The point, still, is that you are arguing today. You are thinking that today is what will be like in 10 years. I am arguing that it will not be that way. My basis is that people will eventually want to submit their DNA to databases to learn more about their DNA and see if they are susceptible to some diseases. That vector, you know, of self survival will overweigh anything else. If you don't think I am accurate, ask Christina Applegate and Angelina Jolie. Science will evolve.

Maybe be happy a couple who could not have a child because he was defending your choice to pontificate now has one. If the situation presented itself again I would do the same thing.

Such a long useless response... LOL

Bob, Did the husband watch you while you were having sex with his wife?

EROTIC

Your hypotheticals have some holes in them.

1. Since our government has not yet required all citizens to submit a DNA sample in order to be put on the rolls, if the father of said child has never submitted a sample, they have no way of finding him.

1. Unless the couple gathered more information than a first name and do you have live swimmers, again, near impossible to trace.

1. Even if the father had submitted a sample, the child would have to submit one to the same database. 23 and me does not cross match with ancestry dot com, or any other private, medical, or even law enforcement databases. Without a court order, none of these are going to give anything up. Getting a court order for someone who wants to just find out who their real dad is, probably wouldn’t happen.

I’m not saying it’s impossible, just not likely.

Ok Bob, thanks for that info.

If you don't mind, I am going to use you to ask some questions. My bias is that I think this is a bad idea.

We currently live in an age of 23 and me. We live in an age where people are doing DNA tests for genealogical reasons as much as health reasons. Do you feel that usage of services like that will happen more in the future? I do.

What happens when that kid that one of you fathered uses that service? Then the parents who have already done the service, the kid learns, woops, that ain't my dad. Do the parents go YOLO? Does the kid go . . . wtf? OR, have the parents already told the kid, hey, you know the person that raised you as a father, well . . . he ain't your dad.

What happens later in life, if the parents have told that kid or the kid learns, that wasn't his dad, uses the service and finds YOU as the match? Are you prepared to say, "Oh yeah, I remember Brenda. She had 6 guys come over and fuck her that night."

What happens later in life, the kid finds out, shit, I have been telling the doctors that my family does not have a history of ____ and now I do not know because I have an anonymous dad?

YES, I am well aware that these same issues can occur from adoption. Yes, I am well aware that this is the cheap fucking way to get around paying for either adoption or artificial insemination. YES, those can be found out via the 23 and me services as well. However, I sincerely doubt that those will carry the same level of stigma to the child. However, those are also the legal ways.

Now, the kid that you had with that woman, again, this is assuming it was YOU, strictly for hypothetical purposes, well that family separates. She wanted another and that guy . . . well, he was defective, it creates strife and they split. The woman is now looking for child support. Hmm. I wonder if the husband is going to say, "That ain't my kid, I ain't supporting it." What does the judge do then? I may be wrong here, but last I checked, the birth certificate is generally the method of trust that lists who the father is. Now, the ex-father is going to claim, do a paternity test. I ain't paying. The judge will ask why, the ex-father will explain. The law is pretty clear here. Unless the kid was ADOPTED, the non-biological has no obligation. Ok, so the woman has a choice: take no money or find the true father and have him pay. Yes, this is the real world. The judge, well, the judge can say tough shit, but generally will not, because they have the kid's interest to deal with. So more than likely, the judge will ask her who the father is. Congrats, she now has to explain she did a gang bang breeding party. The judge, interestingly, will have to judge if there should be paternity tests required on the participants. Then, well, you are now going to get into out of state issues. That part I am not sure about, if there could be demands, but . . . the woman could sue to force it. She finds out who the dad is. Woo hoo. Congrats. That dad now has to pay child support.

My point is simple. There are plenty of legal ways for those parents to have a kid. Those legal ways have been tested and vetted and it protects the parents as much as it protects the child. This method of gang bangs does not. IMO, it is beyond selfish on all parties. It leaves potential legal liability to the donor. It leaves potential future psychological damage to the kid. This is not a good thing to do IMO. This, again IMO, is someone who is being greedy and selfish and not showing care and concern for the next 18 years of legal liability as well as a lifetime of having a child and having to deal with the consequences of that event. If you think that the event can be buried forever . . . I doubt it.

I’ve been a party to the real thing a few years back. A couple that could not have children because the husband was injured wanted to have his friends pick some candidates not from the area they live. I flew in on a Friday had a wonderful 2 hours with her and flew out. I understand there were six of us that weekend from around the country and they now have a beautiful little girl. it was very rewarding knowing it all worked out for the good

@funly

Yes, but you need to go to the next sentence. :) The woman wants to get pregnant.

Didn't this start out with "Lately my wife has been having a A fantasy of Having risky sex." fantasy being the operative word?

"Erotica, stop thinking with your brain and just think with your dick."

The problem with that is the actions of my dick impacts a child, a parent and my wallet for the next 18 years.

I'll think with the upper head instead.

On the risk/reward scale this activity tips too far towards the risk side.

Not sure what the reward would be.

Erotica, stop thinking with your brain and just think with your dick.

Or me.

Perhaps I will come across as some sort of negative nancy about this . . .

But . . . seriously . . . wtf. I mean seriously, WTF!

This is a decision being made today that lasts longer than 60 minutes.

And no, I am not just talking about the woman, or the kid.

Let's put this in REALITY. There is a party. A woman has 10 guys fuck her and cum in her. She get's pregnant. Ok . . . woo hoo. Sperm meet egg, now make baby.

2 years later, that couple is now divorced or feeling some financial pressure or feeling some form of resentment. Guess whose door is going to get knocked on? The 10 guys that dropped the loads. The courts will not care that she gave consent. The courts will not care that she had 10 guys cum in her. The courts will take the child's side on all of this.

or

3 years later, the guy that dropped the load that knocked her up feels he needs to have rights to see HIS child. He goes to the courts. Guess what . . . because it is his kid, he will get rights to see that kid. Yeah, imagine explaining that to your kid and family.

This again, imo, is an absurdly, insane, ludicrous, selfish and a ton of other adjectives, idea. If you want another child, there are plenty of methods that you can do this legally and not have these potential issues. PLEASE, look into them. And no, there are no federal laws regarding surrogacy. All of these issues are on a per state basis. This method proposed is ripe for having a shitstorm.

If you want to impregnate a woman and have no responsibility for your actions . . . well . . . my personal opinion is . . . yeah, I am not going to type it. It is not a nice thing to say.

And, slightly off topic, this is why I don't think a male contraceptive pill will ever be trusted by women.

While this is a very hot fantasy, you of course have to pick the right partners if you want some discretion. If it's a married white couple and bunch of BBC's......some years later someone is gonna "Guess Whose Coming To Dinner". I really wish you could post gifs on this site lmao, because I got a few I could use here.

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DBCooper, did you move to tenn.???