No Gangbangs in Hot Dates

Address the issue don't make blanket rules that negatively effect the majority of your users. The issue is not the use of a word; the issue is the criminal activity of possible prostitution. Man up and take the hard road for a change.

@ mayhem Gang bang is in reality: "Gangbangs are usually the most enjoyable form of pornography".

1.) A group or men (typically 4 or more) having sex with a single female (or male in gay situations). Gangbangs are usually the most enjoyable form of pornography.

I don't find it negative at all. ..... all subjective of course

Wayne - "To me, it (gangbang) is just a very negative word,"

So is the word "Swinger" for a number of vanilla people ;-) Like other problems with the site, there are workarounds.

What amazes us is just how clueless about the lifestyle the staff of this website are. The fact that the staff doesn't know what a gang bang is and throws out a crazy definition is part of the problem.

Would love to see the real data on how many times people were being charged for gang bangs. How many real complaints were there? Seems the the logical thing to do was contact those who violated your policies. So how many times did this happen Wayne and what was the frequency of it? What is that of the overall percentage of gang bangs that were set up on SLS over the life of the hotdate feature?

"With all of the many many problems,glitches, and idiotict rules for a sex site, debating definitions seems like the last thing on the list that needs addressed."

In this thread ABOUT GANGBANGS when the owners side of the debate is a "definition" than it is not the LAST thing. The last thing we need is someone trying to bring other topis into this topic Go find a thread about glitches and rules and post there.

@Hotluvers a Totally agree! The issue is consistency because there is none.

Call it a gangbang or use some other term, it doesn’t really matter to us.

By the way, the intention was not to stir up an emotional argument. I made an observation. I was amused. I commented

I don’t care what the SLS rule is as long as it’s applied consistently. It would be nice if all the rules made sense, but hoping for that would be the acme of foolishness.

With all of the many many problems,glitches, and idiotict rules for a sex site, debating definitions seems like the last thing on the list that needs addressed.

ONG OMG OMG this is pathetic.

just looked up: "gangbang definition" and the very first defintion for that term that showed up is: "The successive rape of one person by a group of people." To me, it it just a very negative word, so I can see why the company has decided not to allow hot dates using that term. I believe hotluvrsposted a phrasing a few posts down in the thread that would be ok.

Wayne we can look up Gang bang and find many definitions that are less harsh than the one you choose. RAPE really????? You terat us like we are imbeciles, but we are not. Stop making a fool out of yourself.

Pick and choose from the list below.

1.) A group or men (typically 4 or more) having sex with a single female (or male in gay situations). Gangbangs are usually the most enjoyable form of pornography.
2.) A gang bang is a sexual activity in which one person is the central focus of the sexual activity of several people, usually more than three, sequentially or simultaneously
3.) copulation by several persons in succession with the same passive partner.
4.) a sexual orgy in which men and women change partners
5.) Yes, in the context of gangs, it refers to partaking in gang activity with members of the gang.

<p>mayhem8,</p>

<p>I just looked up: "gangbang definition" and the very first defintion for that term that showed up is: "T<span style="color:rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family:roboto,arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px">he successive rape of one person by a group of people." To me, it it just a very negative word, so I can see why the company has decided not to allow hot dates using that term. I believe hotluvrs</span> posted a phrasing a few posts down in the thread that would be ok. </p>

Wayne - Question is, how does SLS expect a couple to setup a date where there are multiple guys and only 1 or 2 girls? Kind of semantics unless you consider capping the # of people where a "date" becomes an "event".

FWIW - I would consider a gathering of say, a dozen people more than just a date, but I'm sure you get the idea that the word "gangbang" doesn't mean it couldn't still be a date. If that "date" was held at a hotel, then at a minimum, I'd expect splitting the costs would be somewhat expected. That would be the case for 2 couples if neither could host as well.

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=50284075">mayhem8</a>,</p>

<p>I do care or I wouldn't be trying to explain it to you. Hot Dates are dates. I would NEVER expect to pay for a date. No one should be charging for dates or asking for any kind of compensation. "Brick and mortar" swing clubs have a business license and proper zoning permits for their club. That would mean that the local goverment has approved of what they are doing. But those clubs are not allowed to post hot dates. They can use the Events section to post. </p>

Wayne - I realize that, unless they are a business, they aren't allowed to talk money, but did the single guy that signed up expect to attend this for free?

I know you probably don't care, but think about it. Someone is coordinating the party, providing the girl, paying for the room if it's a hotel party and possibly other incidentals. Is the thought from SLS that they are expected to do all of this for free? I know if it was me, I'd want to make sure that the SMs attending knew that this was not a free party if it wasn't.

I do have a friend that does these types of parties for girls looking for a gangbang. The GB girls don't get any money for it directly, but then they also don't pay for the party. If everyone else does, it could be implied that she is receiving value in lieu of a monetary "donation".

If prostitution is illegal BTW, it doesn't matter if the prostitution is happening under the framework of a "business", which is the argument for being able to indicate that the party has a fee via SLS. This whole thing is a very slippery slope.

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=50284075">mayhem8</a>,</p>

<p>They are not going to the event/hot date and then finding out. Someone posts an event for a gangbang and a single male contacts them privately to let them know they are interested. At that point they tell the single male there is a fee/"donation", either on the site or through some outside communications.</p>

Hotwife - "How the fuck is a gangbang prostitution? "

While I can see it having more potential to being abused that way, it can still happen. All they need do is just leave out the word "gangbang", so I don't see what this restriction accomplishes.

I also don't get who these members are that supposedly complained. Who the hell goes to a LS party of any kind with no idea if and how much it's going to cost? I get that SLS has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy about donations, but it's naive to think that people are just showing up at parties without this info.

Because of the potential for them being prostitution, the company decided not to allow that wording. And that came from feedback from our members that once they got to the events, they were asked for a donation or for payment.

I'm so tired of these chicken shit answers. How the fuck is a gangbang prostitution? The same (make-believe) people who complained could have been invited to a MFM event and then charged money. It could have been a birthday surprise for wife party etc etc etc.

Why don't you just remove all manner of communications between people and sit in your bubble of legalize bullshit

Now are you going to take my profile down because of your cancel culture methodologies

Hilarious!!!! Last I checked we were on an adult “SWINGER SITE”. Right?

Nevada has entered the chat

I could be wrong but I believe that prostitution is Legal in RI as long as it is behind closed doors.

The funny thing is that SLS says one thing to try to protect in case of a legal audit but does another in actual implementation. A hot date posted today. "Would like to set up a gang bang for my wife....".
I guess a "space" betwen gang and bang fixes the "prostituion" issue. Lol.

It is naive to think that money is not changing hands at just about every LS party here. It's also very naive to think that someone is going to spend time/money to setup a party and not expect to at least get reimbursed, at a minimum. While we personally don't charge for our parties, we are an exception.

SLS is just basically trying to protect themselves with their stance on all of this. Honestly, messaging here is not monitored that closely that someone couldn't just respond with the fee if asked. There are also off-site means of communication that can be used to find out about cost. I've seen some parties that even have their own website as well.

I simply can't imagine people heading off to a LS party, gangbang or otherwise, without knowing what costs are involved. Speaking for myself, my time is too precious to be unpleasantly surprised by ridiculous LS party entrance fees. If I can't get the fee info upfront, I simply wouldn't attend. People that would are just setting themselves up for eventual (if not immediate) disappointment IMHO.

For that matter, what legit LS clubs are doing is more a case of semantics, than anything. They are not directly charging people for sex, but they are certainly charging them with the inticement of sex being involved. Not complaining. Just calling it like it is.

Where the law/government tends to get their knickers in a twist is when it comes down to collecting their cut of the pie, namely taxes. They of course also don't want to allow an environment to profit off of people taking advantage of others for sex (i.e. sex trafficing).

The question of whether an activity qualifies as prostitution has become harder to determine.

If someone has a FansOnly page and is getting paid for chatting, and then hosts a free weekend fuck party for their best customers, is that prostitution?

If someone promotes a BBC hotel party at their own hotel and requires attending couples to be guests of the hotel, paying the room fee, is that prostitution?

So Wayne, I’m just curious. If we posted a hot date and said that we were looking for “couples, bi-women with strap-ons, and single guys to all fuck my wife”, would that be ok?

<p>From the Events section on the Help page:</p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">No cost can be mentioned in any posting across the SLS domain including, emails, forums, IM, Chat Rooms, Bulk messaging, Event postings or Event bulk mail tools.</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Events cannot have a cost involved unless you are a VIP member and have a business license in the name of the group posting the event.</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">No Play for pay events can be posted, this could be considered prostitution and is not legal in any state, no illegal postings will be allowed.</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Donations do not make the transfer of funds for sex legal and will not be allowed on this site.</span></p>

This is easy enough to get around. The party is just billed as one for a girl or girls that like multiple guys. No use of the word "gangbang" is needed.

I am curious though. It is unclear if people complaining about GBs were otherwise showing up at a party without knowing if and what the fee was. Also, how would anyone else know if a girl was getting paid to attend a party, unless they somehow knew the girl was a prostitute?

FWIW - I know that I personally would not show up for any LS party without knowing what the fee was, and would never go in expecting there to be none.

The scammers will just find another way around it I’m sure.