Is it us or .

Who knows... People are insanely picky on the internet, and tend to be nonresponsive; I have a multitude of hunches as to why that might be that I won't bore you with.

In my view, your profile is solid; it sounds like you are introverted sporty types that probably have some fun stories once you loosen up. The picture selection maybe leaves too much to the imagination, but maybe you have private gallery ones, so NBD there.

"Should we use another platform."
Sure, but I think the best platform would be to get out to an event or club. I would classify our profile as decent and our messages as engaging, but our response rate is abysmal. We find success and meet cool people everytime we go to the club. It's a night and day difference.

A little late to the party, but other than the baggy clothes (which wouldn't have scared us off) it looked good. The baggy clothes thing kind of reminds me of the way some people house hunt. If the house is not exactly how they want it, they reject it. Sometimes it's as trivial as, "I didn't like the color of room X and Y". Same thing can happen while people hunting.

I did see the hint of something you mentioned in the base post, which is wanting to actually get together and meet rather than spending a lot of time chatting. It did not sound overbearing in your profile, but perhaps you're coming across that way in messages? No way for us to tell.

Some people may just expect to chat a lot before meeting. If people feel you are pushy because you chat once or twice and you suggest meeting, you may have just cut your losses early. It could be that they are newer than they let on. I've seen people that have been online for years and only met one other couple or 2, and then nothing came of that. If you ran across one of these people and they aborted because they felt you were too pushy, then they probably did you a favor.

Otherwise, when you are new it's going to be different, simply because you are new. After 3 years, your "newness" has worn off a bit is all.

We've had our share of bait and switch and bait and never show, enough anyway to shut down at the first hint of something fishy. Just takes too much time. Perhaps we'll pay more attention to the certs and ask others to cert us. Pictures are hard to come by, the guy here hates posing ??.

Thanks again y'all.

Try and get something up without the previously mentioned baggy clothes. You still have sentence fragments and some syntax issues. The part about her being bi or not is still poorly worded. Just say situationally bi and be done with it. Trying to explain a maybe is only going to frustrate many couples.

Certs- many couples will actually want to know that you have indeed played. Not wanting the world to know that you all have played with x number of couples or who is understandable. Bear in mind there are many on here who only send messages and glean pictures for one reason or another. Then there are those who love the idea of the LS and meet couples and go to events so they can feel sexy. However, they never play and the profile says that they do. Once you have had a couple do a bait and switch on you it makes you slow to risk that valuable free time on an unproven couple. You can simply look at a couple certs as a necessary evil. The other perspective is that they will help you make more connections. The best connections that we have made came through referrals from others we have played with. Ultimately, though, you just need to weigh your privacy needs vs. play desires to come to your decision.

You’re going to get different opinions about Certs.

I think that recent certs are important Because it’s a way of proving that your pictures are recent. If you have recent Certs, it probably means that another couple met up with you and think that you look like your pictures.

I probably have too many Certs and I need to pair them back a little. But these certifications are useful to me, because I’m right on the edge of what most people consider a fat girl. You are judged by the company you keep, so if couples with a skinny girl like me, then maybe you will too?

So I guess for me, certifications are sort of like a short hand way of proving that I’m good enough for couples with super skinny wives.

Thanks all for the input. We made some changes. We will need to get a couple more pictures in there I guess.

The certs thing, do folks really rely on that? We haven't paid much attention to it when reviewing other profiles. We even have requested that folks don't post certs on us as we don't feel comfortable with everyone knowing who we've been with. Perhaps we could request the wording just remain discreet.

I have to agree on the pics needing to be tweaked and the question of Bi play leaves one wondering. I would take the advice of those that have taken the time to help you out and see what you can do. You have been on since 2016 and only one posted Cert about someone that met you and had a nice conversation. Have you had no luck since then? Maybe share a bit in your profile about what fun you have had in the LS. Good luck!

Definitely agree with Sammy on the feeling after reading your profile. Also, we would have never opened it because of the default image you have up. Your profile seems to be teetering on being condescending and then kind which can be a bit too passive aggressive for many. There are ways to say that you would love to meet real couples that shower before a date that can be mundane or even humorous. Having met one too many of the not so clean folks in the LS, it isn't a bad a idea to put your preference in there. The one thing that reads oddly is the part about her or is it him also that is situationally bi? "Open minded" is often code for male bi play and it seems like you all are leaning that way. You will find that couples will be irritated by the "well she might and then she may not.... just depends on what happens once...." I am thinking, "Does this mean that she might reach over and grab me? Maybe the husband may even try to get handsy in the wrong court...?" Be 1000% clear about your preferences in this area because too many of us have be victimized by wandering hands, etc. It also is frustrating try to deal with maybes.

I had a bit of Goldilocks feeling when reading your profile. Like you are looking for something that's not too hot and not too cold. It's not bad, and I liked parts of it a lot, but I came of thinking you were high maintenance, when you might not actually be (if that makes any sense).

Velmaandshaggy,
Thanks for the detailed response. We'll dig into your suggestions this weekend and likely make some changes.

To start, I think that your profile is pretty good. You have the guy, which is good.

I think your biggest problem is that after 8 pictures, I still have no idea what you guys look like. Three of the pictures are in baggy clothes, and then you get to stylistic and pixelated pictures.

I really don't want to spend time trying to guess what you look like, so I would probably just pass you by.

I created something I call the "DEBauCH Method." This method gives you 5 core pictures:

A DATE picture. This is a pic where you are dressed up nicely like you are going to dinner. This picture is crucial because it shows what you might look like if we asked you out.

An EVENT picture - you have that with the pictures you have in the desert (I guess Zion National park?) Quick note: vacation pictures are fine, but they can raise red flags sometimes because people are sometimes reluctant to part with good vacation pictures. So try to take new ones periodically,

A BEACH picture to tastefully show off both of your bodies.

A picture of the CHICK and a picture of him.

I would kill everything but pictures 1, 3 and 7. Now you have your EVENT, CHICK and HIM pictures.

Go to a nice restaurant and ask the waitress to take a picture of you. Do the same at the beach or a friend's pool.

I opened a private gallery to show you examples of the DEBauCH method.

For profile text, I would remove everything that is negative, including the stuff about no pics of the guy and hygiene. The fact is that if there isn't a pic of the guy, there's usually a reason why - it's because he isn't as fit as my amazing husband. And hygiene... well, nobody thinks they smell.

So take some new pictures and repost so we can review again.

been in this thing for 3ish years. Awesome encounters 50/50 with "would not do that again". Very few, maybe 6, all the way and a few for seconds or thirds. We are not outgoing people, we enjoy small group dynamics. Lately, we can't seem to get people to want to meet at all. A while back we committed to making a concerted effort to reduce chat time before meeting as it has been woefully unrepresentative of what the face to face would be. So, we usually ask pretty early if folks want to meet.
Are we pushy? Is our profile off-putting? Do our pictures look okay? What are we missing? Should we use other platforms?