When do you consider yourself as Bi?

Rabbit. No I don't initiate it and I truly do not feel like I am limiting myself simply because I don't seek that out. I just don't care if it happens. If it were to happen every time from here on out or if it never happens at all I'll be just as content. This same mindset seems to be what we have ran into 90% of the time during a conversation with other of my wifes male playmates. I don't feel like I'm in the closet. Nor do I feel like I am lying to people. I feel that I am straight with a great big "I don't give a shit attitude"

My thought is that if you're thinking about engaging mm contact, then at the very minimum that would make you curious.

2OD- I’m not trying to start any shit. I’m simply curious.

Do you ever initiate M/M contact? If so then I would strongly suggest you mention it in your profile or list as BiCurious and address it before play.

If you never initiate it and never intent to then I guess there would be no need to make mention of it in your profile.

Like Mayhem said, I think you’re limiting yourself but that’s your call

~rabbit~

Actually 2OD, I'm glad you posted as I really did wonder why someone would set their toggle that way.

The purpose of this site is to find what you want and filter out what you don't. Like us, you appear to like having lots of play options so it otherwise made no sense to me why you wouldn't set your toggle to something other than Straight.

I still think it would open even more opportunities for you to at least indicate somewhere in your profile that you're OK with guy/guy contact in the heat of the moment, but it's your call.

I think GGMM covered it pretty well and would only add that we wish SLS would change the wording of the toggles to Straight, Bi and Heteroflexible. We think that is a better descriptor than bi-curious.

Also our opinion that if you are are going to leave your toggle set to straight but are receptive to bi play, that should be clearly spelled out in your profile.

But we also know opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and nobody thinks theirs stinks.

Also I do not want other guys searching me out thinking that I am looking for guy on guy play. So for now I'm just going to stick with my opinion that until you are actually searching for, or are curious about guy on guy contact. Your only option left is to toggle yourself as straight.

FWIW - I do get the distinction is whether you allow it to happen versus looking for it. The thing is a truly straight guy would not "allow" it to happen.

When after you have had a cock in your mouth and you desire to have one in your mouth again and again you have crossed over the Straight Line over to the Bi Team....Kissing and Anal makes you BI++++

2outdoorlovers, I don't usually lead by telling someone their idea is silly, because it doesn't tend to go well, but I'm making an exception here. There is a perfectly good word for people who don't seek out but also don't reject same sex play. That word is bi-curious, a term that doesn't actually have any meaning in the LGBT lexicon.

Arguing that if you're really (really, really, and would never put a dick in your mouth or your dick in another man's mouth) straight you should not only toggle for it but make a special mention so as to differentiate yourself from those straight men who are okay with it just exacerbates the divide between straight guys and all the other guys who want to claim the orientation but not necessarily the behavior. I get there is social disapproval, but so what. We like what we like and if we're honest about it we're apt to get more of what we like.

Besides, playing let's pretend about sex only works if you're into and good at role playing.

“The ones that aren't will usually go out of their way to state that they are not in their profiles.”

No, that bullshit assumption is what’s asinine. What’s more, is reiterating it to us a second time by calling us asinine , instead of retracting that specific untrue statement, because we shouldn’t have to place it elsewhere a second time to make it believable on our part we are not bi to others.

I know plenty of straight guys who didn’t put it a second time and I am sure they would feel offended as well to not only be assumed a liar but also called asinine for questioning what you call fact.

Ramble on. Unsubscribed.

~Allen

No. You're just a guy that will drink a beer if it's offered.

I hate to use beer as an analogy because I love beer buuuutttt...
You've drank beer. You don't buy beer. You go to someone's house and they offer you a beer that you accept. You drink the beer. Maybe 6 months later you're at another place where you get offered a beer that you accept....
Are you a beer drinker??? Are you beer - curious???

Well I guess yes. By the definition of some. If you're not looking for it. Don't require it. Don't even consider it as a plus. Then yes. You can still consider yourself as straight. That's my logic. Look at it like this. If you own a gun. You have shot the gun. You're not scared of the gun. But you don't have any interest in going out and buying more ammo. Does that make you a shooter? No... It just makes you a guy with a gun and if I bring ammo over your not afraid to shoot your gun again.

So by the definition of some, because you don't have interest in playing alone with another guy that makes you straight, even if you let a guy grab/suck your cock or decide to grab/suck his? Hey, just trying to understand the logic here.

Anyone can of course set their toggle however they please, but if you like that type of play it just seems like a lose/lose play to set your toggle to straight. It makes it harder for couples LOOKING for that type of play to find you, because we all KNOW how well some read profiles ;-) For the truly straight guys it means to many, that you can disregard the straight toggle unless there is other text in the profile to back it up, or so the "logic" goes.

So to answer the original question at the top of this post. ("When do you consider yourself as Bi?")
IN MY OPINION... When you are LOOKING for male to male contact.

No you can just set your toggles however you want, I will just say that calling guys liars you both are being a bit assanign about it is all. Many of the guys that I refer to are not bi-curious but yet not terribly afraid of a little sexual contact between themselves and another guy. I'll use myself as an example. I am not bi. I am also not bi-curious. If in the middle of a 3some with my wife I look down and "HE" is giving me a blowjob instead of my wife I'm really not going to care. Nor would I care if he wanted me to jerk him off. I'm not curious about it I just don't give a damn one way or another. I have ZERO desire or curiosity about hooking up one on one with a guy nor is it any sort of requirement for group play. So to state that I am bi or bi-curious would indicate that I am LOOKING for this male to male contact which I am NOT. As I said. I just don't give a damn one way or another as long as the woman is the focus of the play. (so does that mean that I am lying on my profile by stating that I am straight?)
Sorry but "bi-don't give a damn" isn't an option to toggle on or off on sls.

I agree with Allen. People shouldn't have to do anything beyond setting their toggle to Straight. Sad that lying is the norm for many Bi-curious males.

The bizarre part is there are guys that indicate here that they'd consider Bi play an option but have their toggles set as Straight. That has nothing to do with "time", as implied in a couple prior posts. Why not ID yourself as Bi-curious if you'd consider playing that way?

So, I need to state in our profile I’m straight for reassurance because me listing myself as straight isn’t enough based on the frequency of liars?

:rolls eyes;

~Allen

Like h said. Time will slowly correct this. We have learned though that a rather large percentage of males who list themselves as straight are at least somewhat open to a little bi play. The ones that aren't will usually go out of their way to state that they are not in their profiles.

I think this is one of those things that time needs to fix. We are perhaps at the start of male bi acceptability.

I personally am afoul of this because I see the fun of getting totally carried away in lust and licking more than I may normally be interested in.

I wouldn't have thought this to be that confusing of a question, but I've seen may cases where a person will list themselves as straight and then post that they enjoy a Bi activity.

For example, the most common lately are guys that will post that they like to suck cock or let a guy suck theirs, but then have their toggles set to indicate they are straight. I personally don't care either way but it would seem people that do that are kind of screwing themselves. If I liked and was looking for that sort of activity I would tend to be skipping over profiles where the man lists himself as straight.

I do realize that there is a stigma attached to being a Bi man that doesn't exist with women, but hoping you'll find another man that is essentially lying about their preferences seems sub-optimal for finding what you want.

So in our case, the Mrs likes boobs. A woman that lists herself as straight could very well be freaked out if the Mrs asked to touch her boobs. The most honest thing to do is list her as Bi curious and let people know what her limits are in our profile text. I list as straight because I am, but have no problem engaging in straight play with a Bi couple, so the toggles may not be as limiting as some might think in the event that's a reason for listing as straight when you like Bi play.

To me, Bi play does NOT mean that you have to like ALL Bi activities, such as kissing the opposite sex or that some form of anal play is expected for Bi men. You could just simply enjoy sucking cock, and that is fine. So why not list that way in your profile?