And it does not display "Coup attempt documents."
The titles are generic for a reason.
And it does not display "Coup attempt documents."
The titles are generic for a reason.
The property receipt does not list “Nuclear documents”
It does not list “ Defense documents” .
AGAIN ,
Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information
Scamp , I guess you still think Trump colluded with Russia too !
There is nothing in the law cited in the search warrant that requires the documents to be classified.
Classification is immaterial to the issue at hand...
Lol…this is why I stopped responding to bonnie, each time I disprove one lie, he throws out two more and demands I find the proof that he lied.
I’ll go back to ignoring you and laughing at your ignorance and willingness to be gaslighted.
~Scamp
Just because they were stamped "Classified" it doesn't mean they were classified when he removed them from the White House. He could have declassified them and most likely did, before he removed them. Trump was no angel, but he was good for this country. How do like the fact the White House knew about the raid ahead of time but lied about that. Who is the biggest liar when come to this raid? Biden!!!!
“contended they were not there at all.“
I’m pretty damn sure he was subpoenaed and working with the National Archives back in January .
Would you like me to find Trumps exact statements , your versions are missing a few key words .
For example , “The FBI —>COULD HAVE<—planted evidence.”
And Trust me they would .
Scamp , where do you see the word “TOP SECRET NUKE DOCUMENTS “ in the inventory list of things taken by the FBI ?
Blue Anon is feeding you shit again .
You can call it bullshit all you want, Bullshit? I am telling you what trump himself said in the days following the FBI raid. We all know he is a compulsive liar but I’m just documenting the specific lies he told about the raid.
~Scamp
“We all know most of his decisions are financially motivated “
Show the proof Trump has profited from being in office .
So why didn’t this “ Confiscation story “ break when 3 FBI agents where there in June to look over the documents he had ? They even told him to get a better lock for the storage area .
If he had Nuke Codes why did they wait 3 days to raid him ? Oh they waited for him to go to NY ,lol.
Where is the leaked info on these documents , there usually is ?
Classification is not at issue here.
He took documents that did not belong to him.
The FBI went to his house and got them back.
End of subject...
“Trump has changed his story about the confiscated papers at least three times.“
Lol , who’s feeding you that bullshit ?
EA , Prove to me Trump can’t declassify his documents . What’s law is written ?
“There were no procedures followed and all he is trying to do is to do this ex post facto. That does not work and will be tossed aside.”
You would hope and think they would. But simply put. It’s never been dealt with before. We just don’t know. And as much as I hate to say it. Which judge he comes up against will have a lot to do with a ruling. And rulings will be appealed. I can see this possibly reaching the top court. And who knows what will happen there.
But none of it matters. It could have been an ashtray. The classification has nothing to do with the investigation. Yet.
@EA, “lawfareblog. com/can-trump-just-declare-nuclear-secrets-unclassified”
From your source above. Same article: “So, could Trump declassify National Defense Information at will? Essentially, the logic is that whoever has the authority to classify documents also has the authority to declassify documents. And, all classification authority under these executive orders ultimately stems from the president, so the assertion that Trump could have declassified those documents as he saw fit is probably plausible. However, valid declassification actions require procedures, records, and logging, and arguably ought to have been marked as declassified prior to entering into private hands. This defense has never been litigated, however, so the limits a president might have in this area remain uncertain.”
Good to have ya back EA
Trump has changed his story about the confiscated papers at least three times. First, he contended they were not there at all. Next, he claimed the FBI agents planted them. Now he says he declassified them, with former aides saying he issued a standing order that any documents removed from the
WH would be automatically declassified. We all know this is his standard "deny-and-distract strategy" but isn't the bigger question, how did trump intend to use the information contained in the documents?
We all know most of his decisions are financially motivated so would he really sink so low as to sell nuclear secrets to the highest bidder? Maybe hold them ransom somehow or use them as leverage in future legal proceedings? It's pretty clear now that he did, in fact, remove sensitive documents that he is required by law to turn over to the National Archives so I ask his supporters why you think he took them and what you think he planned to do with them and most importantly, why are you ok with it?
~Scamp
Lock Sard up Lock Sard up
@ONE
"Whether a President can or can not is not clear cut."
No. It is clear-cut.
lawfareblog. com/can-trump-just-declare-nuclear-secrets-unclassified
All you have to do is also think this way . . .
Whatever he waved his magic wand and declassified become obtainable via FOIA acts. Uhh yeah . . . no.
He can declassify, but he can not do it without following procedures. There were no procedures followed and all he is trying to do is to do this ex post facto. That does not work and will be tossed aside.
“He baited their dumb asses yet again.”
Whatever you say Mick
LMAO No shit alright, Hes was letting us know about the up coming " Im gona fuck you yet again " AKA STING. He baited their dumb asses yet again. " well played sir, well played "
Mickey
“"The president can de.classify any document verbally .
No he cannot.”
Whether a President can or can not is not clear cut.
Trumps claims that he has declassified these documents is nothing but deflection and a smoke mirage for his faithful idiots.
None of the three criminal laws cited in the search warrant as the basis for the investigation depend on the documents contain classified information.
These idiots just repeat what they are told.
“Not sure who watched but It was one of his last rally's where out of Trumps mouth he said. I almost think they are going to raid my home. Logical thinking is all that is required on that statement.”
Well no shit Sherlock. Trump knew it was a matter of time before the Feds came back. The Fed knew what he had. He knew the Fed knew. He had meetings with the Fed. I’m sure they asked for what he had. He refused. The politely asked him to beef up the security if the item he had. It was only a matter of time before they came knocking.
Trump is dumb. He ain’t stupid.