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Does this all mean we won't be having a get together? Lol

Better call a code red libs. Popeye is trying to join the mob attack but is tiring quickly. Lol

Kinda like popeye don't understand 4D chess. Lol

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

You don't know what you are talking about.

Plenty of straws out here in California.

When you have the 5th largest economy in the world, you can afford straws...

LOL

Hmmm I would say your 4D chess game on priviledge sucks so bad you Californians need to demand your straws back. But hey popeye keep trying. Lol

8inchcableVeteran
Milwaukee, WI, Us

BLM and the Antifa Umbrella riot and cause violence.....

Trump's Gangs, Conservatives, Constitution Preservers, Proud Boys, Tea Party, Confed Flag wavers, and White Supremacists (Repubs deny their existence) peacefully protest.

They don't break into Federal Buildings, and don't "Riot" cause violence, death and damage. It's only the other side.

JC555 and any who deny reality of white privilege:

The word “riot” right now, after January 6th, has a deep and sad resonance for me, as we watched a right wing riot—also a white riot—that led to carnage against the Capitol and the death of a Capitol policemen killed by a mob rioter.

One example of White privilege, I’d argue, is to look at this riot and imagine what’d would have happened if a black president and black political leaders incited an audience of 30,000 Black people into a mob against the certification of a 306-232 electoral defeat of this president (say, Obama if he had lost by 64 electoral votes his effort to win a second term as president in 2012 against Romney).

This can only be speculation. We can improve the speculation, I feel, if we compare how police and law officers dealt with a BLM protest in Washington DC versus the white mob right on January 6th.

Imagine indeed top Black political figures inciting a black crowd with rhetoric such as stop the steal, fight like hell, trial by combat to disrupt the certification of a White man replacing a Black man as president.

I will add that something that has been kept quiet is the number of death threats Barack Obama faced when he became president versus the number faced by GW Bush or Trump as president.

In any case, this white mob riot incited by President Trump will be looked at in history as another riot by a white mob against a legal fair and just legal process.

It was a lynch mob of sorts engaged in by a mob that included self identified white supremacists and incited by a president that has identified too much with White supremacist groups and who appealed to anti-black racism as well as anti-brown racism to win his election in 2016.

Impeach the Inciter-in-chief

I agree with editorials in the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio paper calling for Ted Cruz to resign as Senator.

For me, the best way to look at the mob riot on January 6th is to look at the photo of a white man parading the Confederate flag through the invaded Capitol building.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

How's that 4D chess going about right now?

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

LOL

The lib mob is back in full force. Lol

Here comes popeye the sailor man coming off his weekend drug bing. You wouldn't know sanity from sanity from anything. When all its fails give them the ole racist title. Meanwhile popeye preaches priviledge and yet does not one damn thing to back it up.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

After a rare moment of sanity, the racist is back at it.

Congratulations for getting back to your normal self...

San Luis Obispo, CA, Us

"2much, stay out of conversation you can't keep up with. Your points are weak and you bypass questions you are scared to answer."

First of all, this is a public forum and anyone is free to participate.

Second, you didn't direct any question my way for me to answer.

Thornton, CO, Us

J C, "Hopefully Biden will do a great job." YES, THE SNIFFER will do a great job for the FAR LEFT EXTRMIST & CHINESE.

Thornton, CO, Us

Flip, "Trump did lose, everyone should move on." When the Chinese knock on your front door to your home and rape you and your family are you going to "move on", as you say. America has been RAPED by the, Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Bolsheviks, Extremists. Get your family size anal lube ready.

Yeah he lost. Not denying the obvious there. Once again not mad, funny hearing that from libs and RINOS who have ranted and raved the last 4 year. Don't like my opinion then move yourself on. Hopefully Biden will do a great job.

ro_ri54Veteran
Sterling Heights, MI

J C555 why are you here? are you HFT's son? or just a bot....why the anger....Trump lost move on

JC555,

I made a mistake. I misjudged a book y its title. Prager’s book, subtitled The Reason for Antisemitism, is a history of anti-semitism, not a case for it.

I found Prager’s essay on “Fallacy of White Privilege.” It’s very short essay National Review, a publication founded by William Buckley who in or around 1957 made a case for the need to slow down desegregation of the South.

Prager’s essay would probably get a C- if it was submitted as an essay for a freshman composition class at any college in the USA except “Bob Jones University” in South Carolina, which once had a ban interracial dating.

Prager’s essay is silly and pernicious. One of his main arguments against white privilege is that white men commit suicide at a higher per capita rate than African Americans. He does not point out that African American have a much shorter average life span in USA than White men

(White men in upper class live much longer on average than lower class white men so class also needs to factor into an analysis of privilege too)

I can see why you might prefer Prager’s essay. He puts the subject of white privilege in no historical context. He does not address any of the points McIntosh or I have made for existence of White privilege.

The essay could be read by a person with a 1 minute attention span as a limit as it’s so short and simplistic.

What do you think is Prager’s best argument to debunk or prove that white privilege is a fallacy?

White men commit suicide more per capita than White women. Does that prove white men have less privilege and power in society than White wines. A more important statistic is that white women make something like 70% less than White men for same job.

For a fairer analysis of White privilege in the USA, you would need to compare and contest 5 essay you could find in the subject of White privilege in books and journalism. One very short essay by one one source from a famously right wing magazine cuts no mustard.

Try citing an essay on White privilege in a publication or journal that is peer reviewed or that is authored by a person of color or published in a respected publication that has no history of supporting segregation

jC555,

I like free speech for all the threads in this Political forum

We should all feel free and welcomed to participate.

We can ignore what we don’t like.

2muchfun.......stay out of conversation you can't keep up with. Your points are weak and you bypass questions you are scared to answer.

jD Vance is author of Hillbilly Elegy who identifies himself as growing up as poor hillbilly.

He served in Iraq, then went to Yale Law School, and became an investment banker. His book became a movie.

I was not stereotyping him. I was using his self-identification

We all stereotype and make assumptions and quick initial judgments

No liberal or conservative is free of doing that, including me.

We all have a measure of implicit racism in us.

The key for me is to develop the range of experience and openness and humility and empathic curiosity to listen to others and study the complexity of past and present to know how to challenge our own assumptions and prejudices as well as that of others.

I stereotype. I make assumptions. I try as well to challenge or question my initial judgments abs assumptions or to keep open minded and open hearted.

I’m always curious to understand why people across all ranges of cultures and ethnicities are alike and what makes each of us different too.

I keep trying to learn and see better and listen better.

I also feel some strength in my opinions and judgments in matters that I have studied deeply.

I welcome you to keep challenging me and avoiding some of my challenges and questions to you

We all judge and see from a limited perspective. I see some people more open than others to seeing issues from multiple perspectives or not being self-centered.