Cops need higher wages

Not too surprised, there are a lot of radical people in Portland, communists,Bolsheviks, leftists and nazis everywhere. It’s what happens when you allow chaos to become the norm.

We got Gestapo in Portland..snatching people in unmarked cars, no badges, no uniforms.

I live just minutes from this clinic, I see lots of local news...Several of his so called victims are filing a class action suit and pushing for criminal charges..stay tuned this will take years

ro: Again, he was charged with Medicare fraud and not following State guidelines for covid, not criminal malpractice.

"Mok had been ordered to cease billing federal health care programs as part of the bond conditions ordered by federal Magistrate Judge R. Steven Whalen at his April 28 arraignment. The 56-year-old Washington Township doctor is charged with health care fraud and conspiracy to commit health care fraud in a 47-page complaint."

Cops need to be rotated to other districts or duty regularly to ease the PTSD they get from having to deal with the same subset of assholes over and over again in a given community.

ro: Again, he was charged with Medicare fraud and not following State guidelines for covid, not criminal malpractice.

"Mok had been ordered to cease billing federal health care programs as part of the bond conditions ordered by federal Magistrate Judge R. Steven Whalen at his April 28 arraignment. The 56-year-old Washington Township doctor is charged with health care fraud and conspiracy to commit health care fraud in a 47-page complaint."

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"You know nothing of medicine. Doctors largest expense is usually insurance and attorneys."

That is an urban myth.

My wife did the books for about 30 different practices. Some were solo shops, some were a few docs and some were a group of about a dozen.

Their biggest complaint was liability insurance! Their biggest expense was not that. Guess what their biggest expense was . . .

Billing clerks. Navigating the insurance payment system was more of a burden on them than the liability insurance.

I am trying to remember the expensive one, but I think it was the orthopedic surgeons and there were 10(?) in the practice. Their premiums were around 40-45k a year for all of them.

PS: you dont sue the doctors you sue the hospital. Medical malpractice happens cuz it could happen. I just went to case which is still going from 2003. That is insane.

Dr Kevorkian is one of the greatest physicians who ever lived..

"Bad doctors are the most protected species in our country, never seen one prosecuted criminally for malpractice"

True story.

My psychiatrist stepfather was a diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic in about 1972. He continued to practice until 1975, when he voluntarily gave up his practice because his condition worsened. He tried to go back in the early 1980s, but was unable to cope.

He kept his medical license until he died. He was able to prescribe drugs until the day he died.

Think of that.

Michigan Doctor Raided by FBI and Arrested for Treating COVID19 Patients with Vitamin C...He is criminally charged with interstate fraud, malpractice so it can happen

A hint: Kevorkian was convicted of murder, not malpractice. MD's are regularly convicted of prescription violations and insurance fraud, completely different thing.

Maybe I should have qualified it with "in my circle", and I'm sure it happens, but criminal prosecution for medical malpractice is extremely rare. There are a few articles about it:

"Criminal Medical Negligence Is Not As Rare As It Once Was - There was a time when criminal medical negligence was a relatively uncommon occurrence. James A. Filkins, the author of With No Evil Intent: The Criminal Prosecution of Physicians for Medical Negligence, wrote that between 1809 and 1981, there were only around 15 appellate cases of criminal medical negligence. Compare that to the present day, when the third leading cause of death in the United States is from medical error by doctors and health care providers. "

"You know nothing of medicine."

Your assumptions would embarrass you if you took a moment to think.

I converse with healthcare professionals daily, for the last 25 years.

"Bad doctors are the most protected species in our country, never seen one prosecuted criminally for malpractice"

Dr. Kevorkian, Michael Jackson's doc Conrad, docs running pill mills. Docs who incorrectly implant medical devices. Docs doing implants and other cosmetic surgeries. List go on....

You sign waivers for Lasik surgery.....

You know nothing of medicine. Doctors largest expense is usually insurance and attorneys.

I honestly don't, I don't know what legal protections they have, but I've seen plenty fired for actions while they were on duty. A personal friend who was a small town Chief of Police was fired because one of his cops was accused of discrimination, the case was dismissed after he & half the department were terminated, he literally did everything by the book including suspending the cops involved during the investigation but the city council felt that canning them all was the right thing to do.

Bad doctors are the most protected species in our country, never seen one prosecuted criminally for malpractice.

Doctors and hospitals have tons of insurance.

Instead of blaming the patient, upon losing suits, they pay their families.

Do you know how difficult it is to sue police?

Oh my.

"A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000."

It could be exponentially higher.

How many criminal prosecutions have you heard of concerning malpractice? If you want to see a group circle the wagons and protect a criminal you should watch a hospital staff when a MD screws up. I promise you that the vast majority are never spoken of outside the Unit.

why do cops have immunity and doctors don't ?

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My very limited and albeit a pathetic sample size, knowledge of what is being taught is two-fold. It is from a former boyfriend of my daughter who was going through the training and then the conversations that I had with the sheriff and deputies here in town. I feel quiet confident that it is not universal, but is probably quite similar through most areas.

I myself have no idea what is being taught.

I'm betting though that plenty of de-escalation is being covered but may be falling on deaf ears.

"Exactly. And those shitty cops need to be taken off the street immediately. Don't let the union put them back"

Maybe they could give them a medical retirement? Seems to work in getting rid of shit-birds elsewhere.

@2

Yes, they both take time to learn. I agree with that. I also believe that what is being taught is not what should be being taught. I have stated over and over there needs to be more de-escalation and less shot and ask questions after.

Your comparing being a carpenter to a cop. Wow how obtuse are you. If I make a mistake. It can be corrected. . change layout or recalculate a stair run Cops make mistakes and it could be deadly

If you would actually read my post you would see that I was not comparing the JOBS against one another. I was merely pointing out that there is a learning curve for any occupation. Cops are not excluded from this.

Before anyone claims that I am supporting bad cops, I most certainly am not. Like Carpenters. Some cops are just gonna suck at it. Hopefully the bosses see it before anything really bad happens and dumps them.

Police or Cops n Robber type of movies, TV and radio shows have been money makers since the invention of radio.

Funny how the media worship them and they have the highest domestic violence cases and divorces.

@Flip

It is not the union's fault.

It is actually the government's fault imo.

A union can come and propose anything to me. I have to agree to it and sign off on it. Someone doesn't have the balls to say NO. Then you get politicians who create laws that put cops above the law. That is the other issue.