Burn it all down

vabeachcouple33 · 2025-12-28T10:27:00.000Z

A large demographic who returned Trump to office is young (<40) men, and not any particular demographic of men. Rich or poor, and in any faith or complexion you can think of. These are not people who actually like Trump. These are people who think that things are hopelessly fucked and refused to vote for what they see as the establishment. In their minds even a bad or destructive anti-establishment government is preferable to a frustrating and seemingly indifferent one. Burn it all down. Our son (33) is one of these people. He didn't really think Trump would do anything positive, but maybe it would get rid of what he saw as the old ineffective ways. It's pretty difficult to have a conversation with him. He repeats things that I know are not his words (I have been unable to figure out what or who he is listening to) without being able to discuss what he just said with any real depth or knowledge. It is said that nothing with turn you into a libertarian faster than starting a business. That was definitely true for me, although my position has softened since then. Our son - who struggled and suffered for years in a rather destitute situation but worked his ass off and now owns a house and a successful restaurant - with our support, but not our money - should be the poster child for "pull up your bootstraps". But he is not. He is certainly not a "Trumper" but he seems to support using the muscles of authority to make things good for himself and to hell with anyone else. Non-citizens (not even legal immigrants) have (not "shouldn't have" - have) no rights. Businesses like Uber Eats and DoorDash should be somehow regulated further so they don't take advantage of him, but he should be able to do whatever he wants. i.e. the whole freedom for me, not for thee. This can seem to those with little libertarian bend to be, as tbr might say, a distinction without a difference from what I was 10 years ago. But it really isn't at all. My bend was to minimize government interference with life and business as much as practically possible. His is to employ as much of it as possible to make things great for himself. This to me is the total opposite. But perhaps this is the appeal of Trumpiness to young men. They see themselves as having lost their position of privilege and want it back. And it's absolutely not just white men - I hear a lot of this thinking on the ball field and in my own neighborhood, with those saying it including Indian, Chinese, Latino, and black. Trump promised that they all could be winners, and a lot of them bought into it. They - and especially the non-whites - aren't thinking this through very well. They can't ALL have it their way, because those ways conflict with each other too much. So now 11 months in it's becoming clear to many of them that they aren't going to come out the winners from these conflicts. So what now? Are we going to have to watch it all burn down?

windowShopping7Veteran

Stamford, CT, Us

owcangrace said:

marioncountycouple7688 said:
owcangrace said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
sn1987a said:
If you don't want medicare, then just opt out of it. The rest of us want our healthcare when we're retired after a long life of working.
BTW, the RICH have been getting tax cuts right and left, in the first Trump admin and then now with the OBBB last year. I sort of recall the best economic period for the middle class that we had recently was during the 1990s, when Clinton was in office, when taxes were much more progressive. If you made more, you paid more on that extra amount you made at the higher tax brackets (on the lower brackets everyone paid the same rate).
So you say that we couldn't afford medicare. Biden says we can, without too much effort. The wealthy are sucking up all the money in this country, because the system is rigged in their favor. I don't see a problem with making things fairer by increasing the rate on the higher tax brackets. If you make money in those brackets, then it's not a burden for you to pay a higher rate. And those are the same rules for everyone. The poor and the rich pay the same rate on the lower brackets.
Anyhow, just pointing out that the MAGA loves to screw the poor, all to benefit the rich. That's just not something that I can support.
Even though it's been proven that the top 10% of earners are already paying roughly half the income tax money paid each year? The top 1% pay roughly 10% of total income taxes paid...
So yeah, let's punish people for being successful.... Good plan..
Actually the top 10% pay more than that. Based on recent IRS data (2021–2022, published 2025)
Top 1% (Incomes >$663,164): Paid 40%–45% of total income tax, with an average effective tax rate of 26.1%.
Top 10% (Incomes >$178,611): Paid 72%–76% of all income taxes.
Top 50% (Incomes >$50,339): Paid 97%–98% of all income taxes.
Bottom 50% (Incomes <$50,339): Paid 2%–3% of all income taxes.
Here is why the system is broke and the truly wealthy are not paying as they did in the past. They use various financial strategies to own whole companies and real estate holdings. They don't seel it very much and when they do it's small as a % of their net worth. They only pay taxes on any of those capital gains or a smallest, compared to their net worth, income. It is called income tax for a reason So the truly wealthy get wealthier and wealthier and pay next to no taxes against their net worth. Remember they off shore it to avoid taxes etc. So them and their businesses benefit from all the things state and Federal income taxes pay for, roads and infrastructure, and they do not pay based on their wealth OR use of the same. Why you see that as punishment is weird to me. They that benefit the most from our capitalist, mixed-economy society should pay the most. Elon Musk is a prime example. he paid $455 million in federal income taxes on $1.52 billion of income between 2014 and 2018, with zero federal income tax in 2018. That is an effective tax rate below 1%. That doesn't include the fact all his net worth increases. Elon Musk’s net worth has experienced a meteoric rise, growing from $24.6 billion in March 2020 to an estimated $830 billion by March 2026, driven primarily by surges in Tesla stock and SpaceX valuation. That is an over $800 billion increase and zero taxes paid out of it. So he pays a lower % of taxes than the poorest that pay taxes, yields billions of $ in benefits from our nations infrastructure etc that he effectively is not contributing to in an meaningful manner.
I'll meet you halfway. Raise the social security cap to $250K.
why cap it at all? The cap allows high earners to pay a lower percentage of their total income into the system compared to working-class people.

You’re in a thread started by nihilists.

3 months ago

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marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

owcangrace said:

marioncountycouple7688 said:
owcangrace said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
sn1987a said:
If you don't want medicare, then just opt out of it. The rest of us want our healthcare when we're retired after a long life of working.
BTW, the RICH have been getting tax cuts right and left, in the first Trump admin and then now with the OBBB last year. I sort of recall the best economic period for the middle class that we had recently was during the 1990s, when Clinton was in office, when taxes were much more progressive. If you made more, you paid more on that extra amount you made at the higher tax brackets (on the lower brackets everyone paid the same rate).
So you say that we couldn't afford medicare. Biden says we can, without too much effort. The wealthy are sucking up all the money in this country, because the system is rigged in their favor. I don't see a problem with making things fairer by increasing the rate on the higher tax brackets. If you make money in those brackets, then it's not a burden for you to pay a higher rate. And those are the same rules for everyone. The poor and the rich pay the same rate on the lower brackets.
Anyhow, just pointing out that the MAGA loves to screw the poor, all to benefit the rich. That's just not something that I can support.
Even though it's been proven that the top 10% of earners are already paying roughly half the income tax money paid each year? The top 1% pay roughly 10% of total income taxes paid...
So yeah, let's punish people for being successful.... Good plan..
Actually the top 10% pay more than that. Based on recent IRS data (2021–2022, published 2025)
Top 1% (Incomes >$663,164): Paid 40%–45% of total income tax, with an average effective tax rate of 26.1%.
Top 10% (Incomes >$178,611): Paid 72%–76% of all income taxes.
Top 50% (Incomes >$50,339): Paid 97%–98% of all income taxes.
Bottom 50% (Incomes <$50,339): Paid 2%–3% of all income taxes.
Here is why the system is broke and the truly wealthy are not paying as they did in the past. They use various financial strategies to own whole companies and real estate holdings. They don't seel it very much and when they do it's small as a % of their net worth. They only pay taxes on any of those capital gains or a smallest, compared to their net worth, income. It is called income tax for a reason So the truly wealthy get wealthier and wealthier and pay next to no taxes against their net worth. Remember they off shore it to avoid taxes etc. So them and their businesses benefit from all the things state and Federal income taxes pay for, roads and infrastructure, and they do not pay based on their wealth OR use of the same. Why you see that as punishment is weird to me. They that benefit the most from our capitalist, mixed-economy society should pay the most. Elon Musk is a prime example. he paid $455 million in federal income taxes on $1.52 billion of income between 2014 and 2018, with zero federal income tax in 2018. That is an effective tax rate below 1%. That doesn't include the fact all his net worth increases. Elon Musk’s net worth has experienced a meteoric rise, growing from $24.6 billion in March 2020 to an estimated $830 billion by March 2026, driven primarily by surges in Tesla stock and SpaceX valuation. That is an over $800 billion increase and zero taxes paid out of it. So he pays a lower % of taxes than the poorest that pay taxes, yields billions of $ in benefits from our nations infrastructure etc that he effectively is not contributing to in an meaningful manner.
I'll meet you halfway. Raise the social security cap to $250K.
why cap it at all? The cap allows high earners to pay a lower percentage of their total income into the system compared to working-class people.

Ok, then they draw like they pay... Based on their best three years. Can't wait to see those numbers..

3 months ago

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owcangraceRegular

Morganton, NC, Us

marioncountycouple7688 said:

owcangrace said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
sn1987a said:
If you don't want medicare, then just opt out of it. The rest of us want our healthcare when we're retired after a long life of working.
BTW, the RICH have been getting tax cuts right and left, in the first Trump admin and then now with the OBBB last year. I sort of recall the best economic period for the middle class that we had recently was during the 1990s, when Clinton was in office, when taxes were much more progressive. If you made more, you paid more on that extra amount you made at the higher tax brackets (on the lower brackets everyone paid the same rate).
So you say that we couldn't afford medicare. Biden says we can, without too much effort. The wealthy are sucking up all the money in this country, because the system is rigged in their favor. I don't see a problem with making things fairer by increasing the rate on the higher tax brackets. If you make money in those brackets, then it's not a burden for you to pay a higher rate. And those are the same rules for everyone. The poor and the rich pay the same rate on the lower brackets.
Anyhow, just pointing out that the MAGA loves to screw the poor, all to benefit the rich. That's just not something that I can support.
Even though it's been proven that the top 10% of earners are already paying roughly half the income tax money paid each year? The top 1% pay roughly 10% of total income taxes paid...
So yeah, let's punish people for being successful.... Good plan..
Actually the top 10% pay more than that. Based on recent IRS data (2021–2022, published 2025)
Top 1% (Incomes >$663,164): Paid 40%–45% of total income tax, with an average effective tax rate of 26.1%.
Top 10% (Incomes >$178,611): Paid 72%–76% of all income taxes.
Top 50% (Incomes >$50,339): Paid 97%–98% of all income taxes.
Bottom 50% (Incomes <$50,339): Paid 2%–3% of all income taxes.
Here is why the system is broke and the truly wealthy are not paying as they did in the past. They use various financial strategies to own whole companies and real estate holdings. They don't seel it very much and when they do it's small as a % of their net worth. They only pay taxes on any of those capital gains or a smallest, compared to their net worth, income. It is called income tax for a reason So the truly wealthy get wealthier and wealthier and pay next to no taxes against their net worth. Remember they off shore it to avoid taxes etc. So them and their businesses benefit from all the things state and Federal income taxes pay for, roads and infrastructure, and they do not pay based on their wealth OR use of the same. Why you see that as punishment is weird to me. They that benefit the most from our capitalist, mixed-economy society should pay the most. Elon Musk is a prime example. he paid $455 million in federal income taxes on $1.52 billion of income between 2014 and 2018, with zero federal income tax in 2018. That is an effective tax rate below 1%. That doesn't include the fact all his net worth increases. Elon Musk’s net worth has experienced a meteoric rise, growing from $24.6 billion in March 2020 to an estimated $830 billion by March 2026, driven primarily by surges in Tesla stock and SpaceX valuation. That is an over $800 billion increase and zero taxes paid out of it. So he pays a lower % of taxes than the poorest that pay taxes, yields billions of $ in benefits from our nations infrastructure etc that he effectively is not contributing to in an meaningful manner.
I'll meet you halfway. Raise the social security cap to $250K.

why cap it at all? The cap allows high earners to pay a lower percentage of their total income into the system compared to working-class people.

3 months ago

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marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

owcangrace said:

marioncountycouple7688 said:
sn1987a said:
If you don't want medicare, then just opt out of it. The rest of us want our healthcare when we're retired after a long life of working.
BTW, the RICH have been getting tax cuts right and left, in the first Trump admin and then now with the OBBB last year. I sort of recall the best economic period for the middle class that we had recently was during the 1990s, when Clinton was in office, when taxes were much more progressive. If you made more, you paid more on that extra amount you made at the higher tax brackets (on the lower brackets everyone paid the same rate).
So you say that we couldn't afford medicare. Biden says we can, without too much effort. The wealthy are sucking up all the money in this country, because the system is rigged in their favor. I don't see a problem with making things fairer by increasing the rate on the higher tax brackets. If you make money in those brackets, then it's not a burden for you to pay a higher rate. And those are the same rules for everyone. The poor and the rich pay the same rate on the lower brackets.
Anyhow, just pointing out that the MAGA loves to screw the poor, all to benefit the rich. That's just not something that I can support.
Even though it's been proven that the top 10% of earners are already paying roughly half the income tax money paid each year? The top 1% pay roughly 10% of total income taxes paid...
So yeah, let's punish people for being successful.... Good plan..
Actually the top 10% pay more than that. Based on recent IRS data (2021–2022, published 2025)
Top 1% (Incomes >$663,164): Paid 40%–45% of total income tax, with an average effective tax rate of 26.1%.
Top 10% (Incomes >$178,611): Paid 72%–76% of all income taxes.
Top 50% (Incomes >$50,339): Paid 97%–98% of all income taxes.
Bottom 50% (Incomes <$50,339): Paid 2%–3% of all income taxes.
Here is why the system is broke and the truly wealthy are not paying as they did in the past. They use various financial strategies to own whole companies and real estate holdings. They don't seel it very much and when they do it's small as a % of their net worth. They only pay taxes on any of those capital gains or a smallest, compared to their net worth, income. It is called income tax for a reason So the truly wealthy get wealthier and wealthier and pay next to no taxes against their net worth. Remember they off shore it to avoid taxes etc. So them and their businesses benefit from all the things state and Federal income taxes pay for, roads and infrastructure, and they do not pay based on their wealth OR use of the same. Why you see that as punishment is weird to me. They that benefit the most from our capitalist, mixed-economy society should pay the most. Elon Musk is a prime example. he paid $455 million in federal income taxes on $1.52 billion of income between 2014 and 2018, with zero federal income tax in 2018. That is an effective tax rate below 1%. That doesn't include the fact all his net worth increases. Elon Musk’s net worth has experienced a meteoric rise, growing from $24.6 billion in March 2020 to an estimated $830 billion by March 2026, driven primarily by surges in Tesla stock and SpaceX valuation. That is an over $800 billion increase and zero taxes paid out of it. So he pays a lower % of taxes than the poorest that pay taxes, yields billions of $ in benefits from our nations infrastructure etc that he effectively is not contributing to in an meaningful manner.

I'll meet you halfway. Raise the social security cap to $250K.

3 months ago

Report#3091270

owcangraceRegular

Morganton, NC, Us

marioncountycouple7688 said:

sn1987a said:
If you don't want medicare, then just opt out of it. The rest of us want our healthcare when we're retired after a long life of working.
BTW, the RICH have been getting tax cuts right and left, in the first Trump admin and then now with the OBBB last year. I sort of recall the best economic period for the middle class that we had recently was during the 1990s, when Clinton was in office, when taxes were much more progressive. If you made more, you paid more on that extra amount you made at the higher tax brackets (on the lower brackets everyone paid the same rate).
So you say that we couldn't afford medicare. Biden says we can, without too much effort. The wealthy are sucking up all the money in this country, because the system is rigged in their favor. I don't see a problem with making things fairer by increasing the rate on the higher tax brackets. If you make money in those brackets, then it's not a burden for you to pay a higher rate. And those are the same rules for everyone. The poor and the rich pay the same rate on the lower brackets.
Anyhow, just pointing out that the MAGA loves to screw the poor, all to benefit the rich. That's just not something that I can support.
Even though it's been proven that the top 10% of earners are already paying roughly half the income tax money paid each year? The top 1% pay roughly 10% of total income taxes paid...
So yeah, let's punish people for being successful.... Good plan..

Actually the top 10% pay more than that. Based on recent IRS data (2021–2022, published 2025)

Top 1% (Incomes >$663,164): Paid 40%–45% of total income tax, with an average effective tax rate of 26.1%.
Top 10% (Incomes >$178,611): Paid 72%–76% of all income taxes.
Top 50% (Incomes >$50,339): Paid 97%–98% of all income taxes.
Bottom 50% (Incomes <$50,339): Paid 2%–3% of all income taxes.

Here is why the system is broke and the truly wealthy are not paying as they did in the past. They use various financial strategies to own whole companies and real estate holdings. They don't seel it very much and when they do it's small as a % of their net worth. They only pay taxes on any of those capital gains or a smallest, compared to their net worth, income. It is called income tax for a reason So the truly wealthy get wealthier and wealthier and pay next to no taxes against their net worth. Remember they off shore it to avoid taxes etc. So them and their businesses benefit from all the things state and Federal income taxes pay for, roads and infrastructure, and they do not pay based on their wealth OR use of the same. Why you see that as punishment is weird to me. They that benefit the most from our capitalist, mixed-economy society should pay the most. Elon Musk is a prime example. he paid $455 million in federal income taxes on $1.52 billion of income between 2014 and 2018, with zero federal income tax in 2018. That is an effective tax rate below 1%. That doesn't include the fact all his net worth increases. Elon Musk’s net worth has experienced a meteoric rise, growing from $24.6 billion in March 2020 to an estimated $830 billion by March 2026, driven primarily by surges in Tesla stock and SpaceX valuation. That is an over $800 billion increase and zero taxes paid out of it. So he pays a lower % of taxes than the poorest that pay taxes, yields billions of $ in benefits from our nations infrastructure etc that he effectively is not contributing to in an meaningful manner.

3 months ago

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marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

Oh yeah, that's true.. funny but true..

3 months ago

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Forfunin205Veteran

Birmingham, AL, Us

Waffle House Disaster Index is used by FEMA.

3 months ago

Report#3091153

marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

Waffle House is an institution.

3 months ago

Report#3091151

Forfunin205Veteran

Birmingham, AL, Us

Dreamland is the superior BBQ Sauce...ribs are top notch....but Demetries and Saw's are pretty damn good too.

Barber's Ice Cream > Ben and Jerry's

O'Carr's Chicken Salad from Homewood, Chicken Salad Chick from Auburn, Zaxby's is a blatant rip off of Guthries from AL....

....Checker's/Rally's burgers from Mobile, even though they are no more....Elrod's Hamburgers (who I secretly believe was ripped off by Checkers)....

And then there is Waffle House....while not Alabama in origin, I refuse to ever move to another state that does not have at least one Waffle House near by.

3 months ago

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windowShopping7Veteran

Stamford, CT, Us

They have very small facilities, few staff and pull from the surrounding area.

Those children go to the Country Day schools

Student to teacher ratio is 1:10-12.

They don’t need public schools. When you’re sending your kid to Choate for 65,000 a year and then you get a “credit” from theis administration for a thousand?
You don’t need some government fucking voucher. That 1,000 is pulled from public education funding. You’re just getting your own money and paying for someone making 500,000+ a year.

It’s infuriating.

3 months ago

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Forfunin205Veteran

Birmingham, AL, Us

marioncountycouple7688 said:

Forfunin205 said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
Forfunin205 said:
sn1987a said:
LOL, just check out the number of patents generated by each state.
https://fredblog stlouisfed org/2021/05/the-distribution-of-patents-across-u-s-states/
Out of the top 20 states in patents generated per capital, I see only TWO red states. 18 are blue states.
The internet? Most definitely NOT invented in the south. You guys have that because of the hard work of the people in the blue states. That is called MOOCHING.
Jeepers....you're totally right!!!
I guess no business worth a lick would wanna come down south with all us hillbillies.....
....yanno....except for:
Remington
Tesla
Oracle
Chevron
X (Twitter)
Charles Schwab
SpaceX
Realtor dot com
FICO
In-N-Out Burger
Pharmaceutical giant McKesson
Global real estate company CBRE
Playboy
Global consultancy firm AECOM
....and a couple hundred other corporations that have move their headquarters from Blue states....
....but what do I know with muh Alabama edumahcation....
8o)
Bro.... You missed the most important one.... The most Alabama thing... The thing we almost never export... Jacks...
SHHHHHHH!!!!
Dammit, dude!! Don't even MENTION Jack's around Yankees!!!
The last thing I want is some Northerner or jagoff from the Left Coast trying to replicate Jack's or worse, try to buy it!!
Damnit man, I'm trying to get us 75 electoral votes.

Hmmmmm....fair point.....

3 months ago

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marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

Forfunin205 said:

marioncountycouple7688 said:
Forfunin205 said:
sn1987a said:
LOL, just check out the number of patents generated by each state.
https://fredblog stlouisfed org/2021/05/the-distribution-of-patents-across-u-s-states/
Out of the top 20 states in patents generated per capital, I see only TWO red states. 18 are blue states.
The internet? Most definitely NOT invented in the south. You guys have that because of the hard work of the people in the blue states. That is called MOOCHING.
Jeepers....you're totally right!!!
I guess no business worth a lick would wanna come down south with all us hillbillies.....
....yanno....except for:
Remington
Tesla
Oracle
Chevron
X (Twitter)
Charles Schwab
SpaceX
Realtor dot com
FICO
In-N-Out Burger
Pharmaceutical giant McKesson
Global real estate company CBRE
Playboy
Global consultancy firm AECOM
....and a couple hundred other corporations that have move their headquarters from Blue states....
....but what do I know with muh Alabama edumahcation....
8o)
Bro.... You missed the most important one.... The most Alabama thing... The thing we almost never export... Jacks...
SHHHHHHH!!!!
Dammit, dude!! Don't even MENTION Jack's around Yankees!!!
The last thing I want is some Northerner or jagoff from the Left Coast trying to replicate Jack's or worse, try to buy it!!

Damnit man, I'm trying to get us 75 electoral votes.

3 months ago

Report#3090986

marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

True story, FEMA tracks Waffle House closures and incorporates that into their scale of how bad a natural disaster is.

3 months ago

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Forfunin205Veteran

Birmingham, AL, Us

Hell, you can even tell how bad a storm or disaster is by whether or not Waffle House is open or, if they close, how fast they re-open.

3 months ago

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Forfunin205Veteran

Birmingham, AL, Us

marioncountycouple7688 said:

Forfunin205 said:
sn1987a said:
LOL, just check out the number of patents generated by each state.
https://fredblog stlouisfed org/2021/05/the-distribution-of-patents-across-u-s-states/
Out of the top 20 states in patents generated per capital, I see only TWO red states. 18 are blue states.
The internet? Most definitely NOT invented in the south. You guys have that because of the hard work of the people in the blue states. That is called MOOCHING.
Jeepers....you're totally right!!!
I guess no business worth a lick would wanna come down south with all us hillbillies.....
....yanno....except for:
Remington
Tesla
Oracle
Chevron
X (Twitter)
Charles Schwab
SpaceX
Realtor dot com
FICO
In-N-Out Burger
Pharmaceutical giant McKesson
Global real estate company CBRE
Playboy
Global consultancy firm AECOM
....and a couple hundred other corporations that have move their headquarters from Blue states....
....but what do I know with muh Alabama edumahcation....
8o)
Bro.... You missed the most important one.... The most Alabama thing... The thing we almost never export... Jacks...

SHHHHHHH!!!!

Dammit, dude!! Don't even MENTION Jack's around Yankees!!!

The last thing I want is some Northerner or jagoff from the Left Coast trying to replicate Jack's or worse, try to buy it!!

3 months ago

Report#3090983

marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

Forfunin205 said:

sn1987a said:
LOL, just check out the number of patents generated by each state.
https://fredblog stlouisfed org/2021/05/the-distribution-of-patents-across-u-s-states/
Out of the top 20 states in patents generated per capital, I see only TWO red states. 18 are blue states.
The internet? Most definitely NOT invented in the south. You guys have that because of the hard work of the people in the blue states. That is called MOOCHING.
Jeepers....you're totally right!!!
I guess no business worth a lick would wanna come down south with all us hillbillies.....
....yanno....except for:
Remington
Tesla
Oracle
Chevron
X (Twitter)
Charles Schwab
SpaceX
Realtor dot com
FICO
In-N-Out Burger
Pharmaceutical giant McKesson
Global real estate company CBRE
Playboy
Global consultancy firm AECOM
....and a couple hundred other corporations that have move their headquarters from Blue states....
....but what do I know with muh Alabama edumahcation....
8o)

Bro.... You missed the most important one.... The most Alabama thing... The thing we almost never export... Jacks...

3 months ago

Report#3090981

Forfunin205Veteran

Birmingham, AL, Us

Jeepers....you're totally right!!!

I guess no business worth a lick would wanna come down south with all us hillbillies.....

....yanno....except for:

Remington

Tesla

Oracle

Chevron

X (Twitter)

Charles Schwab

SpaceX

Realtor dot com

FICO

In-N-Out Burger

Pharmaceutical giant McKesson

Global real estate company CBRE

Playboy

Global consultancy firm AECOM

....and a couple hundred other corporations that have move their headquarters from Blue states....

....but what do I know with muh Alabama edumahcation....

8o)

3 months ago

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OnehelluvaguyVeteran

Irondequoit, NY, Us

“Those residents don’t need to pay into the same services such as public education and emergency assistance. They send their children to private school and have their own security.”

So if you send your child to private school in those areas you pay lower property tax? There is no municipal law enforcement or fire service?

3 months ago

Report#3090957

OnehelluvaguyVeteran

Irondequoit, NY, Us

“Perhaps if they are planning on remaining in the area? Taxes would increase but I don’t know if other areas pay the same type of property tax.”

Your property value can increase without your taxes increasing. We just went through a county wide reassessment. My old house had an increase of about 75k. My tax bill remained the same. The county lowed their tax rate.

That means my investment increased. That’s not a bad thing. Matter of fact. It’s a very good thing. No?

3 months ago

Report#3090956

marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

windowShopping7 said:

Onehelluvaguy said:
“Paying full asking price for a decent little place down here ($150-200K) in contrast to a local buying it for $100-$150 raises home values in the area, driving up home costs & property taxes. Great for sellers, bad for buyers & existing home owners.”
Can anyone explain how the increased value of a home is BAD for the existing home owner?
Perhaps if they are planning on remaining in the area? Taxes would increase but I don’t know if other areas pay the same type of property tax.
It’s nearly 16,000 in city tax every year where I live. Then there is state and federal to be paid.
If you own an estate in New Canaan, Greenwich or Darien it’s far less, despite the fact that those properties are several million to start.
Those residents don’t need to pay into the same services such as public education and emergency assistance. They send their children to private school and have their own security.
This is what maga always fails to grasp. They are subsidizing the wealthy.

To explain it again. When your existing home value increases, so does your taxes & insurance. I don't plan to sell & my sim will inherit my place. Yes, there is an increase in potential profit, but unrealized profits with increased taxes and insurance is not helpful..

3 months ago

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windowShopping7Veteran

Stamford, CT, Us

Perhaps if they are planning on remaining in the area? Taxes would increase but I don’t know if other areas pay the same type of property tax.

It’s nearly 16,000 in city tax every year where I live. Then there is state and federal to be paid.

If you own an estate in New Canaan, Greenwich or Darien it’s far less, despite the fact that those properties are several million to start.

Those residents don’t need to pay into the same services such as public education and emergency assistance. They send their children to private school and have their own security.

This is what maga always fails to grasp. They are subsidizing the wealthy.

3 months ago

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windowShopping7Veteran

Stamford, CT, Us

marioncountycouple7688 said:

windowShopping7 said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
windowShopping7 said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
Hey, don't get me wrong.. I'm perfectly happy exporting people that want to live up north. I'm perfectly happy not importing bigoted trash from up north... I call it a win-win..
I call it a buyers market.
Intelligent people welcome increased spending in their communities.
You reek of resentment.
Well, given the previous statement about buying mansions here for what a small house costs "up north" which is only partially true, the indigenous people suffer for that. Paying full asking price for a decent little place down here ($150-200K) in contrast to a local buying it for $100-$150 raises home values in the area, driving up home costs & property taxes. Great for sellers, bad for buyers & existing home owners.
As far as a tax base..... Retirees tend to live moderately not extraordinarily... They aren't buying cars, investing in community projects or buying new* stuff.. groceries, utilities & gas.... That's what they buy... So would a couple from anywhere else... But they would be bringing children, buying cars, working in the local labor pool, ect...
Up here it’s private equity buying in the suburbs.
In the rural farming areas it’s organizations like AcreTrader.
Your hostility is pointed in the wrong direction.
I know that a friggin Yankee bought the Powell place last fall. I know he paid asking price. I know he paid $365,000 for a barn-dominium & 36 acres. I know it will drive up housing costs. I know he will vote Democrat. I know he's retired and brings nothing to the community. I know it will drive up home prices, taxes and insurance.

Again, you view everything through a personal lens. You always choose a narrow and personal view based on one small area.

Why are you incapable of understanding the larger picture? I couldn’t possibly locate a place for 365,000 here unless I moved 50 miles north and THAT would be a tiny market.

It also bears pointing out that the politicians you adore, are behind the largest property grabs. They divert you with claims that it’s “illegal immigrants” and you accept it, as if it isn’t a lie. Now it’s “yankees?”

Where is it that you believe it’s inexpensive for the local population to buy?

3 months ago

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OnehelluvaguyVeteran

Irondequoit, NY, Us

“Paying full asking price for a decent little place down here ($150-200K) in contrast to a local buying it for $100-$150 raises home values in the area, driving up home costs & property taxes. Great for sellers, bad for buyers & existing home owners.”

Can anyone explain how the increased value of a home is BAD for the existing home owner?

3 months ago

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marioncountycouple7688Veteran

Hamilton, AL, Us

windowShopping7 said:

marioncountycouple7688 said:
windowShopping7 said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
Hey, don't get me wrong.. I'm perfectly happy exporting people that want to live up north. I'm perfectly happy not importing bigoted trash from up north... I call it a win-win..
I call it a buyers market.
Intelligent people welcome increased spending in their communities.
You reek of resentment.
Well, given the previous statement about buying mansions here for what a small house costs "up north" which is only partially true, the indigenous people suffer for that. Paying full asking price for a decent little place down here ($150-200K) in contrast to a local buying it for $100-$150 raises home values in the area, driving up home costs & property taxes. Great for sellers, bad for buyers & existing home owners.
As far as a tax base..... Retirees tend to live moderately not extraordinarily... They aren't buying cars, investing in community projects or buying new* stuff.. groceries, utilities & gas.... That's what they buy... So would a couple from anywhere else... But they would be bringing children, buying cars, working in the local labor pool, ect...
Up here it’s private equity buying in the suburbs.
In the rural farming areas it’s organizations like AcreTrader.
Your hostility is pointed in the wrong direction.

I know that a friggin Yankee bought the Powell place last fall. I know he paid asking price. I know he paid $365,000 for a barn-dominium & 36 acres. I know it will drive up housing costs. I know he will vote Democrat. I know he's retired and brings nothing to the community. I know it will drive up home prices, taxes and insurance.

3 months ago

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windowShopping7Veteran

Stamford, CT, Us

marioncountycouple7688 said:

windowShopping7 said:
marioncountycouple7688 said:
Hey, don't get me wrong.. I'm perfectly happy exporting people that want to live up north. I'm perfectly happy not importing bigoted trash from up north... I call it a win-win..
I call it a buyers market.
Intelligent people welcome increased spending in their communities.
You reek of resentment.
Well, given the previous statement about buying mansions here for what a small house costs "up north" which is only partially true, the indigenous people suffer for that. Paying full asking price for a decent little place down here ($150-200K) in contrast to a local buying it for $100-$150 raises home values in the area, driving up home costs & property taxes. Great for sellers, bad for buyers & existing home owners.
As far as a tax base..... Retirees tend to live moderately not extraordinarily... They aren't buying cars, investing in community projects or buying new* stuff.. groceries, utilities & gas.... That's what they buy... So would a couple from anywhere else... But they would be bringing children, buying cars, working in the local labor pool, ect...

Up here it’s private equity buying in the suburbs.
In the rural farming areas it’s organizations like AcreTrader.

Your hostility is pointed in the wrong direction.

3 months ago

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