Ahmaud Arbery

en wikipedia org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

While there is a correlation between blacks and Hispanics and crime, the data imply a much stronger tie between poverty and crime than crime and any racial group, when gender is taken into consideration.[84] The direct correlation between crime and class, when factoring for race alone, is relatively weak. When gender, and familial history are factored, class correlates more strongly with crime than race or ethnicity.[86][87] Studies indicate that areas with low socioeconomic status may have the greatest correlation of crime with young and adult males, regardless of racial composition, though its effect on females is negligible.[86][87] A 1996 study looking at data from Columbus, Ohio found that differences in disadvantage in city neighborhoods explained the vast majority of the difference in crime rates between blacks and whites,[88] and two 2003 studies looking at violent offending among juveniles reached similar conclusions.[89][90]

@AZ

You are looking at the right side of the equation. What is on the left side? The WHY.

LOL

How many poor black men have you been around in your life?

The daily life of a poor black man in the US is as different from your (or my) life than if you were sitting in Phoenix now and the black man was sitting naked in Antarctica.

C'mon man, think before you blather...

"If you are going to go there, you need to look at the laws and how they are policed."

Black people are half of all murder victims. Why, because most murder victims are killed by someone of the same race, and over half of murders are committed by black men. What examination of the law or how it Is policed do we need to understand that?

Over half of armed robberies are committed by black men.

Black women have a much higher rate of being the victim of violent stranger rape.... because almost half of violent stranger rapes are committed by black men. (White guys "just" date rape, which has a far lower arrest rate.)

Over a third of aggravated assaults are committed by black men.

We're not talking marijuana possession here... violent crime! Murder, rape, robbery and assault!

6% of the population commits almost 50% of violent crime.

So, I ask again, what is the correct denominator for rate of police killings by race? The race as % of total population, or the race as % of violent crime?

Mario: I meant the "denied that the cop killed him" part, I could have made it less confusing.

There have been dozens of posts claiming that someone somewhere is repeatedly denying that the cops were wrong, and since they meet with no argument they continue to cast the chum, hoping to lure someone into that stance.

If you are going to go there, you need to look at the laws and how they are policed...

"Surely you have tried to minimize the death by repeatedly saying that more white are killed by police than blacks"

Of course we need to look at rate...

But what is the correct denominator? When 6% of the population commits 50% of the violent crime, the wrong denominator can give a skewed perception.

Tbr.....” Surely you have tried to minimize the death by repeatedly saying that more white are killed by police than blacks”

Not at all. I have stated over and over that this cop committed murder. The references you are referring to was in regards to the protests and that there are indeed more white men killed by cops than black men. Yet there is rarely if not ever a protest for those killings.

Surely you have tried to minimize the death by repeatedly saying that more white are killed by police than blacks...

DNLB.....” Yet there are dozens of posts making that accusation?”

Did I somehow miss this? I could see maybe that senile old HFT, but who else has? I surely have not run into anyone, including cops, outside this forum who have that opinion.

Flip...... HFT is rarely seriously considered in any debate of substance. Most in here treat him like that old “NoCal” or “NorCal” person that no longer posts.

” That nobody has denied that the cop killed him, for starters.”

Yet there are dozens of posts making that accusation?

I haven't seen anyone in these forums saying that asshole coo was right in what he did. Maybe hft possibly but that's it.

212.....” That nobody has denied that the cop killed him, for starters.”

Maybe I should have used a less inclusive word than “nobody”. Depends on the group. In these forums? Nobody. At an AB meeting....not so much. So how many people have you talked to who think this cop didn’t kill Floyd? Because I have heard nobody say that.

Humans are deuterostomes, which means they develop the anus before any opening, meaning basically at one point you were just an asshole. Many on this forum demonstrate they have never progressed beyond that point.

That nobody has denied that the cop killed him, for starters. Seriously, this selective playing dumb routine is getting really, really old. Have some damned pride.

212..... What did I lie about?

You have been happily commenting in another thread in this same forum with the title "GEORGE FLOYD ON DRUGS DIED OF DRUG OVERDOSE".

So yes, some people did and do deny it very much. You are lying, and you know full well you are lying. Why? And why do you think nobody would notice?

212.....” Sorry, that was snide. You never denied that he killed him or that he should be put away for it.”

Nobody has. Just about everyone knows this cop is guilty of murder and that he belongs behind bars. What is your point? Are you just a “devil’s advocate” kinda guy? That’s fine, if you are.

Sorry, that was snide. You never denied that he killed him or that he should be put away for it.

212.....No

I'm sure Mario will volunteer to be the subject of such a demonstration. Won't you, Mario?

Any competent lawyer can end this ludicrous debate by having an exhibit in the courtroom complete with pavement. Then offer to place his entire body weight behind his knee on the defendant's neck for 8 minutes. Since the defendant will claim that that motion is not lethal, he shouldn't object. Right?

TBR.... You mean your version of the truth.

I don't have a cunt, nor am I a cunt, whatever that means in describing a person.

You prove everytime you post that you are an idiot.

Truth is affirmative defense against libel...