Your thoughts

Thn....couldn’t agree with you more. Well said. We support them as well. Been going there for 3 years. Nice people

As to the house parties I wrote about, I am unaware of anyone getting a cut of the money however they do have a few people working with them to help with security and clean up. But not a lot of people- so for them it's a good business model.

The parties are themed- some nights are focused on women who prefer black cock or white cock where they invite extra single guys. And other nights are couples only where it's themed like Halloween or naughty school girl night.

As for charging single guys extra, I have no problem with it. It can help weed out ( but not prevent) groups of uninitiated-to-the-lifestyle guys who think a house party is like a strip club where they can roll up and touch anyone they want. In fact, for everyone, including single guys, they have an introduction to the lifestyle welcome meeting to explain things. The single guys who come to these events are gentlemen and know the more classy they look, the more successful they are likely to be there.

We've gone approaching a dozen times over the past 5 years and each time has been well organized yet fun.

Wouldn’t that make them a ‘pimp’?

One other note: I don’t have a problem with prostitution. If a woman wants to sell sex, more power to her. As a matter of fact, that’s a huge fantasy for my wife.

My problem is situations where the woman is having sex, but someone else is making the arrangements and collecting the cash. That would be ripe for abuse and exploitation.

“I draw a pretty big distinction between paying a fee to enter a party and paying a fee to join in a gangland. Others may disagree”

I disagree. In my mind a gang bang is a party, possibly no real different from any other house party.

“As long as the women who fuck don't get a cut, where's the problem?”

Agreed! That’s the key point. If it’s one couple, and the woman is fucking all cummers, AND they are making a profit, I’d consider it to be prostitution.

“I have problems with ppl over-charging singles to make money. And know forehand that couple's and ladies are not going to play with them. That's a scam”

It’s hard to know if the women are going to play. There have been times when my wife decided “nope, ain’t happening”.
Some guys may have felt disappointed, some may have felt cheated, but I couldn’t give a rats ass.

Hey, the Craiglisters had to land someplace ;-)

VA - agreed.

If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck it’s a duck. That sound like paying to fuck.

I draw a pretty big distinction between paying a fee to enter a party and paying a fee to join in a gangland. Others may disagree.

The parties are well-run, you seemed to have fun and no problem with the door fee....

Win-win for all involved, right?

As long as the women who fuck don't get a cut, where's the problem?

I have problems with ppl over-charging singles to make money. And know forehand that couple's and ladies are not going to play with them. That's a scam.

Yep.. similarly, we know a couple who hold 2x a month house parties and are easily paying off their mortgage early doing it. 50 people x (40-75/couple-single dude) so maybe 3-4K per month.

They are well run parties with very nice people and we've been a few times.

necouple,

Is your question in response to my post, or the OP’s?

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=63299709">SingleTowsonGuy</a>,</p>

<p>If that happened on here you can report them, it is not allowed. Report them. It is illegal and it prostitution! </p>

Trying to figure out what your objection is to it? Are you somehow being compelled to participate?

I think it’s a fair question.

It can be a thin line between being legal or not. If a couple makes a small profit every once in a while, that should be ok. If it’s a monthly event, prostitution. There are many couples that clearly cross that line. We avoid those parties like the plague

I'm joking when I ask you..... but have to ask you STG.....?

Have you ever paid for a trip, hotel, movie, dinner, or drinks or a present for a woman or dude,
and was hoping to get some head or get laid? Paid for a woman to get a wax, massage, hair or nail treatment?

No robbery or prostitution in a fair exchange or expectation.

STG,

Others paid to enter the party. I'm pretty sure they sucked and fucked.

Nobody screamed prostitution or called the cops.

Ppl have been charging fees for fuck parties since the Roman Times.
It's your choice to go the hotel or house party.

Some hosts allow you or a couple to peep inside or even a short walk-thru to see if you
would like to pay and stay.

Pick and choose your hosts wisely. You win some, you lose some.
Often hosts don't recoup their costs. I've been there. It balances out in the long run.

It is prostitution.

Now what?

You can either pay to play or move on.

First off, how does this affect you? If it doesn't, does it really matter? Second, given your naiveté in the lifestyle, true gang bangs (what you're describing) are extremely hard to set up. Most SMs out there are flakes. A couple may set up to host at a hotel for, let's say, 8 SMs. But only 3 show. So while the charge you refer to may seem excessive for 8, it's spot on when only 3 show up. The hard truth is that women and couples control the pussy. No reason the couple or woman should cover the entire cost of the room when everyone is sharing.

Does it matter?

I've only been in the lifestyle for 6 months or so but I've notice a good number of hotel get togethers where the female of the couple will be "entertaining" multiple males. They ask for donations to participate to "cover the cost of the room". Given what they charge and the average cost of a hotel room, they are clearly profiting from these parties. How is this not prostitution?

Unless they're staying at the Ritz Carlton for $1000 per night, ordering food, drinks, etc, they are making a nice profit. In my mind that's prostitution. Having sex for the sole purpose of making a profit.

Can someone explain how this isn't prostitution?