Seriously SLS?

I'm going to go even further and propose that trial membership for $1 for the first month on a credit card would deter a great many fakes and other people abusing the site.

Aside from all that, I'm for the crackdown on free members. It will make the site better. A trial period is great, but it shouldn't have enough perks that people want to stay in that status.

It's part of the reason I'm so judgementally against the BDSM lifestyle. There's REAL slavery going on every day, everywhere, and some of you turds turn it into a fucking fetish?

I've only seen one profile and Hot Date ever that I thought was prostitution. It was a middle aged white guy, with an Asian hottie trophy wife less than half his age. It was within the last 2 months. Going by memory, the hot date said he was a cuckold, and wanted multiple men to "fill his wife with cum". They were at a hotel. If you wanted to participate, you would meet him at the hotel bar to talk, then if he approved of you, he would give you the key to the room and send you up.

That is part of the problem FOSTA is trying to address. Illegal immigration isn't just Mexicans. They bring in women from China and South East Asia packed into shipping containers who have to work to pay off their debt to the smugglers. It's a real thing. It's an issue I've followed for years. Slavery in all its disgusting forms pisses me off.

Swingersontheweekend, that just makes it even funnier. ;-)

mayhem, I have been looking and can't find any indication that personal assets are being seized. I did see a reference to houses, but nothing indicated that they weren't talking about business assets. I don't think I care quite enough to wade through the bill.

LLC status protects business owners from liens against their personal assets to satisfy the debts of their company. It doesn't not protect them from criminal liability.

And Backpage admitted to being scumbags, so it's all good.

re: LLC

Backpage was an LLC too, according to USA Today. So yes, they are poking holes in that shield.

Thank you.

True story. It was like in the movies... when the record player scratches and Mrs.SOTW looked back and said ,"WTF did you just say?!"

Oh, if I valued the people I've met relative to the cost of my SLS membership, this is the single best investment I've ever made; the ROI is off the charts. (Also, swingersontheweekend, your tagline is hilarious.)

mayhem: "This can be some scary stuff though with seizing assets and income that had nothing to do with this site, not to mention potential jail time."

Prudence would suggest that it's an LLC and I haven't seen anything that says enforcement of FOSTA would pierce the shields between business and personal assets. Admittedly, I haven't looked that closely.

SLS needs a couples only section to be more like Craigslist. A place where couples can get away from single men

Of the sites we are on, SLS has been about the best for actually meeting people. When we decided to get into the LS it was something that we saw us doing long-term, so we were looking at lifetime membership. That was back in 2014, so we have gotten value out of it. Like you ggmm, I'd be concerned about doing the same today based on the reaction to this legislation.

If the owners of SLS are that concerned and have full-time jobs and this is basically a hobby, I'm not sure what recourse one would have if you plunked down the $149 for the lifetime membership and they decided to close shop. At a minimum one would hope there was a buyer to carry on, but if not......????

It does seem though that the steps taken so far are to minimize those risks so that they could feel comfortable in continuing on, even if they do appear to be a bit of an knee-jerk reaction. This can be some scary stuff though with seizing assets and income that had nothing to do with this site, not to mention potential jail time. I can't say I blame them.

@GGMM

I have always said that every friend we have met through SLS has been well worth the price of the membership. ;-)

That being said, we have played with a lot more friends from the vanilla world than we ever have from SLS. We have been members here for right at 5 years (this is our 2nd screenname)

I've had pretty good luck meeting people through SLS, which kind of surprised me. It has certainly been worth a year's membership fee to try it out. However, I don't know that I'll do another year, based on recent actions which seem panicky and ill-advised.

Who knows maybe SLS will go back to being a swingers site with the elimination of most of the single men

The people really getting burned by fakes are the newbie unicorn seekers. They blast out to every single female they can find and, big shock, some of them are fake.

I want to say it's been 5 years or more since we reached out to a previously unknown to us single female, so we're not at risk for that.

Our luck with actually meeting couples on here is meh at best. Statistically speaking clubs have been our best avenue. On here too many go hunting based on the pictures and basic numbers (age/height/weight) at a club your getting a better total idea. I have seen some couples at clubs where I had to do a double take compared to their profile pics and description. A site that listed parties/clubs/events would be nice; but then I am certain we would run into FOSTA issues.

In case it was't clear, one of the parties we attend and enjoy was $30/couple, so we could attend 5 of those for the cost of an SLS lifetime membership. The value of the parties was a known but the value of an SLS membership (at the time) was not. Most of the parties we attend were in the $40-$50/cpl range.

Also, I'm not sure what the trial membership really accomplishes if, at the end the trial period, they can just create a new one under a different name.

Maybe we've just been lucky, but for all of the fakes/cheaters/picture collectors that are reported as being here we have run into very few of them. In the two cases we know of that we ran into a picture collector and a fake, they were paid members. We also know a few SFs and some are on SLS, so we don't look at SF profiles as necessarily being fakes or prostitutes. This could also have to do with the area we live in.

I'd be OK with the idea of a trial period but it took us at least a month or so the see if there was value in paying for a membership. In our area we have anywhere from 3 to 5 parties that we could attend for the cost of the lifetime membership, so it was a"bird in hand versus..." kind of thing for us.

The real value in SLS, for us at least, was to see the LS parties in our area. I have said it numerous times that if we had to rely solely on online interactions to meet people we'd be very frustrated with the LS. We have noticed that one of the parties we do attend did not post to SLS this past time. If that is a trend then it would be unfortunate as it diminishes the value offered by the site.

Though I've seen site safety recommendations about not sharing outside email addresses, the changes we're seeing now are likely going to result in more of that.

Agreed. Who the fuck would pay for this membership with a money order?

Also - anyone using this site for nefarious purposes would be leaving a cc number, which could be provided to law enforcement if need be.

OK, so that last post just put a question in my mind.

Premise: Only paid members can upload/view explicit photos, right? And the reported purpose for that was to avoid minors interacting on that level, right?

So...

Why would the site allow an alternate pay method of using a money order? I realize that this would allow a cheating spouse to remain..ahem..discreet, but doesn't it also render the paid status impotent in terms of restricting minors?

Tramp

I'm not as concerned about the fake profiles in terms of what it means for us or other experienced members. I am concerned about:

1. Naive newbies losing their private pictures to some asshole and being discouraged from the lifestyle.

1. People using pictures of ex-girlfriends or something to embarrass or harass them. (q: why does "embarrass" have 2 R's/2 S's but "harass" is 1 R/2 S's?)

1. Prostitutes, especially the "not really here of my own volition" variety.

Locally, I have seen repeated (at least 3 times) uploads of a "single female" profile using her actual name (example Jane_Doe) and details about where she can be found and describing her "rape fantasy", and encouraging anyone who locates her to proceed in spite of her protests and attempts to stop you. They really were using her real name - you could google her and find her on facebook (as well as revenge-porn websites). Someone has been trying to get this woman attacked for some time.

This sort of abhorrent use of SLS would be virtually impossible under the conditions I described.

Va- K***die does that when you sign up and get a paid membership. Your membership allows certain functionality but to get full functionality you have to submit a pic (couple or just the female portion) with your username and date.

I think the law spooked them and they overreacted in the name of playing it safe.

Inviting new people into your sex life invites potential issues for exposure of your identity, exposure to health & safety issues, and most of all, you just might be lucky enough to play with my precious wife. That said, you can buck up like an adult if you want to play the game. Does it reduce the aforementioned risks? I don't know, but someone who pays is more likely to be real with a financial commitment. Do we miss out on good people? Probably, but I don't care.