Long term SLS members, ZERO certs

Yelp is just a blackmail site. There are so many other factors on a profile than a lack certs that are red flags to how fake a profile is.

...and keep in mind that Yelp reviews include the good with the bad.

Certs are a level of invasion of privacy we have no desire to cross. Why does anybody need to know who we have played with who also happen to be members here??? Most action happens on the fly at the club or parties, not through this haphazard mess if a web site.

If someone will only contact us if we have Yelp reviews from other SLS users, we don't need to meet them anyway.

We deleted our certs long ago because we learned that an interested couple passed us by because of a cert from a couple that they had a bad experience with, they admitted it to us at a party when they learned our online ID. They expressed that they would never use it as a deciding factor again, and we decided that we don't need a scorecard.

I can see how single males or couples with new profiles might find it useful as adding credibility, but honestly we've been stood up by more people with certs than those without.

That7 and B. T. Just the tip? Dinner? 'Ass is mine'
. Oh my. Sexy phrases and thoughts running thru my fevered covid -free brain. Someone is getting some this weekend in mobile. Yes indeedy do! I guess dinner is not served but we'll struggle through..cold pizza rocks

Cert,s are Nice! But cash is Nicer .Wink. To each their Own .I done Kiss and Tell But I Do kiss a Sweet Tale.

@cobalt...R, How the heck are you? Couldn't be a nicer and more respectful guy. Call that a cert-by-forum! Hope to catch you again this summer.

BAM !! And thats what we are talking about... see some get it!

xoxox

@Jinx Want to know the irony Jinx? You and me have met and had a wonderful time all without the use of the cert system or even offering exchange after said meeting.

But I can respect couples/females needing some sorta filter when getting pounded with 50+ requests a day.

Does it count if we post how many certs we have declined in ten yrs?

Baby, a condom isn’t gonna protect us from the virus. How about just the tip?

I’ll let you hold it under your UV light...

Full carnal knowledge is imperative. ...your butt is mine...

Yeah, I can hear it now...

BT

BT

" when is this shut down going to end? Rhetorical question. Sigh"

It's now riskier to meet a couple for dinner than it used to be to have unprotected sex with them.

Certs are an invaluable tool in this single lady's lifestyle choices. Zero certs on a single male long-term member's profile is a deterrent. The few couples I have been lucky enough to meet have had certs. I understand those not wanting or needing them but they do separate the fakers from real people. I read of those asking for certs for meeting at a club! No way! Full carnal knowledge is imperative. Speaking of carnal knowledge: when is this shut down going to end? Rhetorical question. Sigh

We had to use our fresh and updated profile comment as a birthday reminder. Rather than individual birthdays we just normally update at the beginning of the year. We blew off January but now are waiting the SLS gods to approve us being one year older. Or is that wiser? Or is that more mature? Or is that just being honest. LOL

For me no. I used to have certs (all good btw) and then deleted them. To me it is no one's business how many notches I have on my bed post and who my past partner's were. If the fact I have a lifetime membership, a fully filled out profile, decent pictures, and reached out with more than "Hi! Wanna fuck? (insert dik pic)" Then clearly you should keep going. As unlike most single males here, I'm not lacking in places to go pound random pussy and much rather take my time being selective finding a cool SF/Couple to hang with.

As for filtering flakes and fakes, eh I rely on talking and photos for that.

Certs are nice, however, we almost never meet anyone directly from the site. We use the site to find hotel and other parties. If we see someone signed up we like AND they have what look to be real certs then we'll proactively open pics for them and not say a word. If they like us, they'll write, open theirs too, or recognize us at the event.

What is a looks-to-be-real cert? One form another couple or member who has been on the site for a while and also has what look to be real certs. We all know what a fake cert looks like :-)

We've "dated" enough couples from the site and not once did one of the couples inquire as to why we had no certs. If someone has certs we will take a casual look at them, but don't use them as a reason for a yes or no. The two primary things we key off are A) pictures and B) profile write up. We prefer to see couples who keep their profile pictures new and fresh. If you are living off that one great shot you took in 2012 it's a caution. We've surfed enough in our geographic neighborhood to know who has stale/dated pictures. Then we both read the profile write up. Seems to be some contention about what is best, short and brief or long with depth. We are more likely to meet a couple if they've taken some time on the profile and not gone with the standard one liner of....we will tell you more in person. To us and only us, lack of profile depth is a big caution item.

All the Uriah profile certs since 2013 have seen at least one (if not both) of us up close and naked. Any certs before 2013 were for Uriah (SM) and /or his gang bang group, trust me— the certing couples who drove/flew to Memphis to experience a gang bang organized specifically for them were definitely doing more than “meeting and greeting”..

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When we as a couple are making a decision about potential fwb, we look at every aspect of a profile: written content, pictures or lack thereof, , the email/message and certs (if any).

All of my certs are from people I've played with. Honestly, I wouldn't even think of asking for a cert from anyone I hadn't.

I also don't recall reading many certs where the people involved merely met at some point. They all seem to be linked to actual play which seems like a good thing. I think what people want to read about a guy, whether he's part of a couple or single, is confirmation the pics (and any promised endowment) match the person, he's reliable, generous in bed, has staying power, and can perform. Am I off target here?

Holly Blue brings up another good point. Some couples only have the standard attendance type cert or two from a Meet & Greet, club or other LS event. Others as well as us have seen them at a club or event & they never play with others. They just like the idea of being around the atmosphere & list themselves as full swap.

Wayne, you still don't have a solid understanding of the LS and how LS folks use features on websites. Please look at the post again. A single guy who only has a cert from the host of a party or just met a couple isn't going to help him much. Couples and single ladies are going to look for certs that show that they actually have played. Many cheating or wanna be cheating husbands will meet for drinks and go to parties but never actually follow through. They waste people's time. The same thing is true of many couples who never play but only enjoy meeting LS people and going to LS events. If they only have certs saying they met for drinks and had great conversations it is a pretty solid indicator that they don't actually play.

We understand that everyone is different, and respect those who make the decision to not give or accept certifications. They have their reasons for that, and have decided that this is what they are comfortable with.

Having said that, TomandDiane's voice verification idea is an excellent way to not only weed out fakes, but is an excellent way to start out getting to know a couple.........

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">You don't want to only have them from the party host or people that you only met for drinks."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">A lot of people do not seem to understand the point of the certification system. They don't have to have anything to do with actual play or the quality of play/the person. Since people have the ability to accept or deny a certification, I wouldn't expect to ever see a negative one. They only exist to help determine that someone is real and not some scammer from half way around the world or someone pretending to be the wrong gender.</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">It is perfectly ok to have a cert from a party host of someone you met for drinks. That is the main point of them. They have nothing to do with "kissing and telling". </span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">I've used this example before: </span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">I pass someone on the street. They say, "Hey, aren't you Wayne from SLS? I'm "SomeGuy3214" on the site".</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">"Hi SomeGuy3214. Nice to meet you. I will give you a certification when I get home."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">It indicates that person is in Gainesville, FL where his profile says he is and that he is at least serious enough about being here that he meets someone else in person and went though the process of getting a certification.</span></p>

Generally speaking those profiles tend to be fakes. We do have 2 couples whom are friends that don't give/receive certs, however they were willing to voice verify right away, had well written profiles & pics. Due to boredom with the virus, there seem to be a lot of older profiles on with old or no certs. Our opinion is that having a fairly recent certs(s) establishes credibility.

I’ve never really understood not wanting to give or receive certs because, “it’s no one’s business who we fuck”.

We’re picky and have hooked up with some amazingly sexy people and goddamnit! We’re gonna brag about it!

~rabbit~