Fun Facts

Phoenix, AZ, Us

"People who have/had issues with serum cholesterol levels revealed during lipid panel assessment know that dietary cholesterol isn't closely related to serum cholesterol.
Or they should."

The fun fact was that there was a 29% all cause mortality beneficial difference between those who ate more than 7 eggs per week over those who ate two or fewer. ;)

But, no, people do not, including those in healthcare, because they're still pushing various dietary changes to lower serum cholesterol even though the studies supporting the various protocols are short term, had a small number of participants, or both.

The Lyon study found that some dietary changes are shown to be highly beneficial in lowering mortality and heart attack without a material change in serum cholesterol, but that finding hasn't been integrated into how medicine deals with high serum cholesterol.

Stamford, CT, Us

The drug industry had the guidelines changed. There have been a slew of class action lawsuits as a result.

They changed the suggested guidelines for prescribing by 40 points.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

Blood sugar...

mayhem8Veteran
Auburn, NH, Us

Many years ago I had my annual physical and my total cholesterol hit 204. My doctor immediately starts with the "You should consider Crestor/Lipitor". I pushed back because my profile looked good otherwise, meaning triglycerides less than half of the midpoint, HDL higher than the top of the range, and LDL was BARELY borderline.

Also, if a patient is willing to change their lifestyle, drugs should never be the first approach for this. The doc asked what my typical breakfast was. At the time it was bacon and eggs. He suggested switching to oatmeal, which I did for 6 months and retested. Those were the worst numbers of my life. While I don't mind oatmeal, I rarely if ever eat it now due to that "experiment".

I decided to drop weight and did so on the South Beach diet. Not quite Adkins be somewhat similar. That was the start of my low-carb lifestyle and my lipid panel results have been good to excellent since, so long as I keep the weight off. So, my FF is that the "oatmeal challenge" was mainly designed to sell more oatmeal IMHO.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

People who have/had issues with serum cholesterol levels revealed during lipid panel assessment know that dietary cholesterol isn't closely related to serum cholesterol.

Or they should.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

" And I'm surprised that full link even made it through the censorship wildcards of SLS."

Wayne should have a better answer but from my experience, "dot com" addresses need to be "tweaked" to get past the "censorship wildcards".

calcanfun2Veteran
Hanford, CA, Us

Much appreciation for sending me that link earlier. I appreciate learning new things. And I'm surprised that full link even made it through the censorship wildcards of SLS.

Wayne, if you're reading this. Check out that link. lol

Phoenix, AZ, Us

Here's the link I sent to calcan: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9143438/

And here's the first paragraph: "The relationship between dietary and blood cholesterol is very controversial and has been debated within the scientific community since the 1960s when the first guidelines for dietary cholesterol were published. It was not until the 2015 dietary guidelines that the upper limits of dietary cholesterol were eliminated, based on more current information. The guidelines from the 1960s were not based on epidemiological data, meta-analysis or clinical intervention; they were construed as a consensus based on the current information available at that time."

Fresno, CA, Us

As I recall, the issue was possibly inflammation of the blood vessels, which would allow the cholesterol to build up. That's from memory, and I don't know how true it is, but it seems like a logical issue to study.

calcanfun2Veteran
Hanford, CA, Us

Very interesting. Thank you. If you still have the link, can you PM it?

Phoenix, AZ, Us

FF: Dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol are, despite common advice, not really all that closely linked and one study showed a 29% reduction in mortality in those who ate more than seven eggs per week. [The study covered over 8000 people who were followed for a mean of over 11 years.]

Bensalem, PA, Us

Fun fact:

One of my neighbors has started Spring cleaning. I can tell, as her windows are open and the smell of a cleaning chemical is wafting in the air. It does not smell bad from my perspective. However, if the cleaning chemical smell it wafting in the open air outside, them my neighbor has to be high as hell smelling the cleaning chemical!

:-D

Bensalem, PA, Us

Sir SA!

How the hell are ya?!?!?!?! It's been a long time...

La Vernia, TX, Us

Fun fact

The human body is amazingly resilient.

calcanfun2Veteran
Hanford, CA, Us

It's fun having legacy Central Coast people on here like you. Cheers.

San Luis Obispo, CA, Us

"That place used to be a speakeasy as well before it was McClintock."

Mattie's Tavern. Full service with happy endings.

My dad told me nice girls didn't go to Pismo back then. It was a wild place.

calcanfun2Veteran
Hanford, CA, Us

Yes!! Man, I'd love so see someone restore it. And as you know, there's a McClintock Saloon drama going on right now as well. 40 people showed up and not one bid because the reserve was too high. That place used to be a speakeasy as well before it was McClintock.

San Luis Obispo, CA, Us

"The very first motel in the world was on the central coast o California and celebrities visited."

The Motel Inn in San Luis Obispo. Monterey Street and the 101.

Great restaurant and bar with strong drinks and live music. That's where our family always went for a "fancy" dinner. Also where Mrs. 2much used to go barhopping before we met.

There's just a couple of walls left standing. They've been threatening to restore it for years but it never happens.

calcanfun2Veteran
Hanford, CA, Us

Fair enough... Moving on.

The very first motel in the world was on the central coast o California and celebrities visited. It's a pretty fun Wikipedia rabbit hole.

Bensalem, PA, Us

Uh, no... My statement of a body convulsion from this morning has nothing to do with the additives that were subsequently put in play. I stand firm.

calcanfun2Veteran
Hanford, CA, Us

Anal is definitely on the play list indeed. In a sexy, lifestyle way. Butt not in the flatulent way you describe it.

Just move on and admit your faux pas that everyone here has identified.

Bensalem, PA, Us

I mention a bodily convulsion and it gets interpreted as diarrhea and hemorrhoids... You guys have unhealthy anal fascinations.

:-P

calcanfun2Veteran
Hanford, CA, Us

Tucks pads for the pain, Melvin.
And lighten up. You walked yourself into this one, buddy. lol

It was an entire shit show!

Bensalem, PA, Us

Fun fact:

All of you do not stand a chance in a court of law. Why? I never said anything about diarrhea...

So, everyone's quote is out of order.

::: gavel :::