Family

Don't ask don't tell............

That would be taboo

Thanks for your replies. helpful!

As was previously stated, the experience should probably be a no go.

With these 'unorthodox' play scenarios, it's best that all parties are at the very least enthusiastic and on the same page about the experience.

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it
-Holly

They have a veto agreement in place already.

She exercised her veto according to that agreement so their niece is off limits for play.

If he doesn't respect her veto then he can expect her not to respect his veto if he ever feels the need to use it.

Totally not cool

This scenario has a Florida Man headline written all over it. WTF is in the water down there anyway?

You don't put your dick in family...whether it's your own kin or your in-laws. There's a couple hundred million people in this country you can fuck without creating a potentially awkward situation at the next family reunion.

T

The whole idea is kind of creepy...

I have had somewhat similar situations twice in the lifestyle. Both ended with, "No way in hell!"

The first one was with a cousin of a SF that we were really close with. The SF was so close to us that she is the only one who has ever met our child. Her cousin was interested in the lifestyle, I thought her cousin was cute and cool. She stated emphatically, "Leave my cousin alone! Don't go after her." I gave her a sarcastic comment to provoke thought. I told her, "Aww. You want to keep me for all of yourself and not share my awesomeness with her." She looked confused because she realized I boxed her in. Then she said, "Want to keep fucking me? Don't fuck her." I didn't pursue her cousin and about a month later we talked like adults about it. For her, it was just too emotional. I told her that I sensed that and her friendship meant more to me than her vagina and the ability to get another vagina. So I was not going to upset our friendship with my behavior.

The second one is not even blood but weirdly close. My wife's relatives all live in this tiny town off the Mississippi. My wife, during her childhood, lived with this woman (a couple of years older) and her family. They raised her for a few years while her father was working out of state. So she had a 'sister' type relationship with this woman, but NO blood. The woman saw us on HBO's Real Sex. She talked to my wife and wanted to learn a LOT more about the lifestyle. I had met her once when we went to visit and we stayed in her house for a few days. I thought she was very doable. I told my wife that, yeah, we can go back to that podunk town and fuck each other's brains out. My wife said, "You ain't fucking her!" I responded by reminding her that she is not even blood. She said she didn't care, and that she didn't want me to go there. Fine, my wife's happiness is much more important to me than the 60 minutes of fun with that woman.

So if the guy is smart, he would realize that the short term release of bodily fluids is not worth the rest of his life dealing with the issues that it creates.

I concur with the previous posters.

You're making this too complicated. It doesn't matter what he thinks, they have a veto power agreement and he should just STFU and move on.

Also, this is a terrible idea anyway. Like, epically terrible.

"The wife is not on board."

that's his answer right there

getting involved with family members is a bad idea too

If the wife has the right to veto any potential playmates and has chosen to exercise it in this case, that should be the end of the topic.

Even if she were OK with it I think it's a huge mess waiting to happen. Even discussing it or entertaining the idea is a crap idea, IMO.

This is an easy one.

If the niece is of age and 100% onboard and if the wife is 100% onboard, then go for it. Weird to me but it's their family, not mine.

If any of those three things (age and both niece and wife 100% in agreement) aren't the case, then no fucking way.

~Scamp

I have a friend that wants to have an intimate relationship with his wife's niece. The wife is not on board. They have an agreement that each gets to refuse the others playmates.
He feels it is ok, since he is not biologically related to the niece.

The wife doesn't want to hurt the family relationship, cause division and just plain feels it is family and that is off-limits.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this subject.
Thanks!