Fake Profiles and Feedback.

Huh?

"If your fantasy world is like you say, then more power to you."

This is not my fantasy world, this is my reality.

As I am often accused of having stories . . . here is one.

I believe it was 95 or 96. There was a massive event, Lifestyles Convention in San Diego. This had about 5000 couples. My wife is 6'1.5" tall. We found a couple who the wife was 6'2" and their SF friend was 6'. Somehow all of them wore the same shoe size. This meant trying on each other's shoes. These were anywhere from 4" to 7" heels. So yes, these women were very tall :) We get into an elevator to go down to the party. As the door opens, there is a guy, he is maybe 5'7". His jaw drops to the floor. The three women get out first. I am the last one out. The guy looks at me, grabs my arm and says, "Wow. That is my fantasy." I look at him and say, "Dude. This is my reality." I pull my arm from him and keep walking.

So this is my reality. While it may be your fantasy, that's fine. Are all SM's dickheads and scumbag lying fake cert buying mother fuckers? Nope. In our over 25 years of being in the lifestyle, we have had ONE meeting where it was wonky and not as described. Optimism is always better than cynicism.

This is turning into a popcorn-worthy thread!

Kudos to HollyBlue, EA, and Hotluvrs for your positive contributions. Things like, ability to travel, location, health (mental as well as physical), and fitness, play key roles in demand and success for SMs. You can also add to that the “pimping out” or as I like to say, “sharing amongst like-minded friends”..and let’s not forget that thing called “game”, which was something that I didn’t really have as a monogamous, long term married man, but had to learn After my divorce in my 40’s.

The most insightful comment though comes from HB, about creatively (well)-written certs and the boomerang effect they often bring. - A great reminder of something that SMs, who Are meeting with success should consider.

Once in a while, it’s nice to read something positive about successful SMs.

Carry on,

BT

Yes, Hedo, those men do exist. You obviously aren't one of them and therefore seem to refuse to believe that they can since you aren't.

Speaking of spades, I’m really digging Ms. Hedo’s attire.

:-)

Carry on..........

~Allen

Hedo, the first line of your profile says, “No single men”. So why do you care how many certs guys have or where they are posting hot dates?

Sounds like someone has some insecurity issues.

~Scamp

We’ve introduced a couple of the missus’ single males to our circle of friends, they get hit up quite a bit for play, some even have the women join together and “welcome” them on the spot. So funny to watch one female talking about common vanilla stuff up in their face while another is blow jobbing.... their little fun with it.... lol

We’ve always selected the ones that are for more in it than a fuck. One of them contacted us to ask how to break off seeing a couple and said they were quite spontaneous and started feeling very dissatisfying, as he started to feel like a piece of meat because they only called him to meet at the motel, no out on the town stuff beforehand. We’ve always went out and had dinners, lunches, strip clubbing, dancing, clubbing, bars, over for movies and even just hanging out. Single males are just as busy as anyone else.

~Allen

Hedo, you all really need to get out more. Hit some clubs or do something to expand your view of the LS. The only point that has been proved is you all have little to no experience with sm's. If you all aren't interested then that's fine. Don't make rash assumptions about something you obviously don't know about.

Like Amazon said, we too have made some super solid connections through referrals from friends. It is definitely a lot better than wading through online profiles.

HOLLYBLUE hit on what we see a lot of.

We have about 3 or 4 circles of people we hang with. These circles consist of 5 to 20 couples. Some of the circles are very SM friendly. The way it works is simple . . . A couple will find a SM. The woman will judge how good the SM was and how she was treated. The husband will judge how the SM treated him. If the SM passes both the tests and hits the checkboxes he will be talked about within the circle. Suddenly the guy will be bombarded with requests to meet.

Case in point, there was a SM who got in touch with us. We tend to try and limit SM's to ones that are close to us. Geographically this is generally kinda hard at times. This SM is about 90 minutes away. Our response was simple, "Thanks for the interest, but you are kinda far. Good luck." Well . . . he wound up with a couple that is in one of our circles. It helped that he is 20 minutes from them. So one time at a party where that couple was there, they talked to us about him and asked if it was OK to invite him. At the time we didn't know it was a guy who had talked to us. We said sure. He showed up, was a gentleman and treated us wonderfully. My wife liked him a lot. Guess what . . . He has now been with 5 other couples we know because we and the other couple pimped him out.

So finding a SM that works for a couple . . . he will be pimped out to other couples. He can get LOTS of requests and he can get LOTS of certs . . . all with a gumby picture no less.

Hell I've turned down 3 this week alone. Some couples will hit you up the night of, like "hey can you play in 3 hours"

I'm sure if I had no life ,or ability to plan things, I could easily be free for 5-6 dates a week. Throw in more if I didn't care what they looked like or had a total disregard for my safety.

I can only imagine how some of these live in the gym, superman, go all night with 11 inches type of guys do. I've been at a party and watched the room full of women STOP when a certain guy came in. Just get up with the guy they were playing with to flock to him for his size and looks.

Get in where you fit in... Don't be a hater

Hedo,

Don’t know if the guy you referenced was real or not, but a single guy turning down 5 or 6 requests a week is a real thing.

We had a friend in Florida that used to host interracial house parties. They were very well attended. He always had lots of women at the party hoping to get a chance to be with him. I know that his email In Box was always full.
Five or six a week? More like double that.

Hedo, first you are choosing to disbelieve in a couple of real sm's. Are some of their certs entertaining? Yes. It seems like you are in disbelief that a single can get that much play. Many of the ones with a good reputation can and do. I have several friends who turn down around 5-8 requests per week. A real gentleman who also happens to to be fit, gifted, and skilled can have more play than he can keep up with.

We have seen here and on other sites that many use a cert or verification to talk about or promote themselves via another's page. These folks will write some stuff that is fun to read. Doing so, will get you to click on their profile. Also, like RK notes many people, especially abroad, will give them for just meeting someone. They may receive 15 from one party and perhaps only have played with half or a couple of them. So, when a nice sm frequents a club or has done well with one lady she will tell her friends and in a matter of a couple weeks he could have played with around 8 different couples, been watched by another 10, and have at least 18 certs at the end of a month. If he travels for work then he can rack up even more in a short time.

@RonKathy

I learn something new everyday. Certs are the most elusive thing on this site for a single male... Even more elusive than the single female. You have people who don't want to be public, those who don't like certs and therefore won't give any, and even had women who wouldn't give a cert, because they didn't want other women to get curious about me.

All the while, people are judging you based on your certs, or calling you fake (or something must be wrong) if you don't have enough. So to come here and find people are just trading these things, is absolutely crazy to me. I've had partners who have played at my home, on multiple occasions and still wouldn't give out a cert to just say he's safe and hosts... Nope

What do they just have cert events? Or people smooze the event, begging for certs the whole time. Shameful

Personal me i don't have any Certs from beginning. I insist to stay without them just because love to keep private life private. Why everyone need to know who i fuck or who have any kind of relationship with me. My opinion (again MINE) certs nothing mean to me and don't give me any plus.

I swear you gotta come to the forums and check to see what you'll be looked down for, at least once a week

So now if a single male has too many certs, it will be deemed that "nobody is that good" and you will be labeled a fake.

If a single male has 1 pic, even if he only uses this page to see and sign up for events, you will be labeled a fake.

If women look at your certs, then steal some lines to write another, you will be labeled a fake

Guess single males now have to start rationing out the good sex, and turning down certs, to appear more real. Well it should save loads of cash on paying couples to fake certs. Or creating fake profiles, paying for them, and keeping them open so the certs stay online... Shoot.... 10 certs is $150 bucks a month alone

Do you plan on fucking this person?

If not, then why do you care? What do you gain by claiming it is fake? It seems to me, and I will not use the 'obvious' that you brought up, that you have some beef/complaint about what you perceive to be fake. I mean . . . how dare a SM have a lot of testimonials with only a suit. On another site that we are on, there is a SM, he is in LA. There are TWO pictures of him. One, ironically, in a suit and the other, a very blurry picture of his dick. He has about 6 pages of testimonials. Even though I took enough credits to graduate as an English major, I didn't take the testimonials and push them through turnitin to check plagiarism. But a lot of them are VERY similar. However, when you are giving praise, there is a finite number of ways to say it.

I'd just move on, there are much more important things to worry about.

You guys don't have idea how many fake paid profiles have here. I find minimum 5... some people put on profile 15$ per month and fake pics. After is easy. Exchange pics and collect. Sooooo many....

If he’s calling out another member by name you should report him as doing that is against the TOU of the site.

~rabbit~

Not sure who you are talking about but I’ve noticed that quite often, people will read a person’s previous certs and perhaps unintentionally mimic the tone and style of what they’ve just read when they write their own.

Not sure why you are making such a big deal out of a single guy having a lot of certs but if you find it that annoying, just block him and you won’t have to see it anymore.

~S~

A headless shit is getting zero attention from us.

Sayin'.

Agree with RnS.

You can also block free members if you're worried about fake profiles. Most fakes are not going to spend money to create a fake profile. There is however, a down side. A lot of couples have free accounts because they are on multiple sites, but don't want to pay for multiple memberships.

Also, 90% of Single Female profiles are free, typically for one of two or three reasons. 1. She takes her swinging seriously. 2. She wants to have full access to all the features... such as the forums. 3. Attractive women, (even moderately attractive,) don't need a website to get laid.

So as you can see, there are pros and cons to blocking free members.

I know of a SM that occasionally posts in the forums who’s main (and possibly only) picture is of him in a suit. He has ALOT if certs and, though I’ve never met him, I know he’s legit.

He goes to Naughty in New Orleans every year, goes to a lot of house parties and hotel takeovers and many other lifestyle events.

I would also find it hard to believe that a SM would be able to find enough fake couples to cert him or that he would spend the money setting up all those profiles.

~rabbit~