My usual soft length is about 3". In a nudist situation, I usually dangle at about 5". When I'm hard enough to use it for fucking, my dick is about 6.5" and it grows to 8" long by 6" around at full excitement, Thanks to ED, it's been a while since I've been at full mast, but I remember the "good old days".
Soft to hard ratio
I start with a soft 2.5 inches and grow to a nice firm 7 inches.
Not sure of the ratio, but it's probably around that 50% mark. When not being used, I've always wanted my dick to be as small as possible so it doesn't get in the way or get knocked into by other things.
I can go from 1 inch to a very fat 6 inches..
I am definitely a "grower" In new situations I can be between 3-4" flaccid, in familiar situations around 5" then fully erect at 8"
I really like the "shower and grower" thing. Surprisingly I'd not heard that expression until recently.
Until I got into the LS, it wasn't even something I thought about. My wife knew my size when erect and was more than happy with it, so those times when I was cold and not aroused were never an issue like it was walking around nude at a LS party.
I guess I'm at about 40% increase from soft to hard. 5" soft, and 7+ hard.
GGMM: That wasn’t directed at you, I already know how you feel about the subject matter from other forum posts, so no need to explain. I was just thinking out loud with my chuckling fingers from way many other posts from fora females.
:-)
~Allen
Lol, so my wife isn't the only one who wildly speculates and makes theories about genitals? Good to know.
"………..And to read back through all these threads that place women as saying it’s what’s inside that counts…….."
I like men. I like them a lot. But I don't have the bandwidth to pass on to them comforting lies like size doesn't matter. It does. It's just not the only thing that matters, although if sex is the only thing I'm interested in, I don't really care that you haven't read a book since 2019. Conversely, if you're the most interesting person I've ever met, having a 3" long dick isn't a deal killer, but penetrative sex is probably not where I want to go with you. And...if it wasn't for penises, I'd mostly have sex with women, because I'm more widely attracted to them than to men.
I've occasionally been disappointed in the "scenery" at nude resorts, but the men where I go keep their boners under control. The few that get hard are the ones I see in private anyway, and they haven't grown to disappoint me!
As a side note, all of the darker ones I've seen don't grow much, but almost all of them are pretty thick too begin with. I wouldn't tackle ANY of them if they threatened to double in size!
It's kind of like opening a present, though, since you never know how it's going to turn out and I like surprises!
………..And to read back through all these threads that place women as saying it’s what’s inside that counts……..
Keep them coming ladies…..lol
~Allen
As a woman, I have to admit that I'm disappointed when I start to play with a guy and he's 1-2 inches. I know, I'm shallow. Size shouldn't matter. But when it comes to sex, the size of a dick does matter. That won't stop me from playing with the guy. I would never embarass a guy because he has a small dick, any more than I would expect him to embarass me because I'm overweight. In fact, I'd do my darnest not to let him know him disappointed. I will do anything I can to help him get hard and grow while I'll playing with him. We can have a lot of fun even if there isn't a lot of penetration. have been happily surprised recently though, when that same guy who was having a hard time getting his smallish dick hard, showed up in the morning, with morning wood and that 1-2 inches had grown to a respectable size and he was able to give me a thoroughly good time and a cum shot. So, definitely worth having an open mind.
Have heard this subject referred to as “ a grower vs a shower”. Some guys are small when flaccid but, grow significantly when erect. Others are the reverse. Guess I would be more a grower than shower. About 3-4” to around 7” puts me in the 50% group. Have gone to clothing optional beaches and been semi-erect for most of the day. Just depends on a variety of factors.
I’m definitely equipped with a grower too. I’d say my size probably more than doubles from one to the other. Which could be a potential turn off in that setting I suppose, but personally I’m not likely gonna have out in the air before I’m ready to use it.
It's always better going with what is a sure thing as opposed to hoping that the grower actually is one.
"I can't help but think that women feel like the guy that has 6-7" soft has a distinct advantage over what I suspect are more typical guys, like me."
A slight one in that I would be reassured that 6-7" was the floor, although I'd worry that the ceiling was too high. It's actually a little disappointing to be interested in a hot guy (and have it be mutual) and discover that he has a tiny dick. Like, not going to say no at that point, because the person is more important than the plumbing, but I have occasionally regretted that unlike a couple of women I know, I am unwilling to solve the mismatch by suggesting anal.
Yeah. I'm definitely a grower. Most of the time I'm about 2 inches soft. Not very impressive.
But that 2 inches becomes almost 6 when I'm fully hard. So just slightly larger than average.
Kind of an odd topic, but I'm sure we've all seen a guy in porn or at a party that appears as though they are as long or longer soft as you are hard. I suspect that people like that have a low "soft-to-hard ratio".
It's not like I'm looking for exact figures, but wondering what the norm or average really is. For example, that guy that is 7" soft may only gain an inch or so when he gets hard. For me, it's easily a 50% or more difference. I have had a couple women tell me I'm on the verge of being too big, but it's like embarrassingly small when I'm soft, or worse yet, soft AND cold.
Probably the worst case of this I ever saw was at a party we went to. A guy that played with the Mrs literally had an innie. When hard, he only got to about 3", so his soft to hard ratio was like just over 100%. Pretty extreme, but guessing the norm is probably more like somewhere between 50-60%.
Though this is in the Men's topic, it is certainly welcome to hear from women on what their observations are. I can't help but think that women feel like the guy that has 6-7" soft has a distinct advantage over what I suspect are more typical guys, like me.

