bi guys

funcouple, So true, I said the same but not nearly in the high level of writing that you did, and was worth posting twice.....Mary Jo

To many, it's a safety thing.
Many bi guys participate in anal sex with other guys. Anal is the primary way HIV is transmitted. Men are notoriously bigger risk takers than women, and will often do this bareback.
Many couples do not want exposed to this risk.
Many women enjoy seeing their man as a dominant 'alpha' type figure in the bedroom. It's part of the attraction. Seeing getting bent over and railed can be an instant turn off, and she may never see n.v him in the same light again. Even giving head can alter her image of him.
Aside from this, I can see a LOT of guys...
and some women... who would be intrigued by MM sex. I dare to say if it wasn't socially unacceptable to many, lots more guys would be out there giving each other head... as a buddy thing with zero meaning at all.
For the more level headed, I believe it's the safety aspect of anal that turns many couples away.

To many, it's a safety thing.
Many bi guys participate in anal sex with other guys. Anal is the primary way HIV is transmitted. Men are notoriously bigger risk takers than women, and will often do this bareback.
Many couples do not want exposed to this risk.
Many women enjoy seeing their man as a dominant 'alpha' type figure in the bedroom. It's part of the attraction. Seeing getting bent over and railed can be an instant turn off, and she may never see n.v him in the same light again. Even giving head can alter her image of him.
Aside from this, I can see a LOT of guys...
and some women... who would be intrigued by MM sex. I dare to say if it wasn't socially unacceptable to many, lots more guys would be out there giving each other head... as a buddy thing with zero meaning at all.
For the more level headed, I believe it's the safety aspect of anal that turns many couples away.

It sounds like you were trying to say that you don't look for same gender sex, but it could happen in the heat of the moment.

Make sense? English class was not my strength. I think faster than I write. I humbly apologize. Swingers are simply fascinating. Human sex is very different than animal sex.

My wife and I have been making love for over thirty years and when the star's line up in the heat of the moment anything and I mean anything could and can happen. That's the beauty of a long relationship. So when swinging, simply cant be a free for all without communicating with all involved its a free for all. Gay tendencies? Absolutely not. Now when the star's line up - almost and maybe anything is possible. We have no rules but can stop play at any time. Does this make?

I agree with 8”
Sls is supposed to be fun but sometimes it gets very judgey

I agree with 8”
Sls is supposed to be fun but sometimes it gets very judgey

I'm actually kind of with 8" on this one. Since this is the Men's topic, if you enjoy sex of any kind with both sexes, you are Bi. If you enjoy sex only with guys, you are gay.

I don't get why this is such a difficult concept for some guys to grasp, but you see a fair # of guys that claim to be straight that enjoy Bi play. There is absolutely nothing wrong with engaging in Bi play if you like it, but why claim to be straight if you enjoy Bi play?

The reality is that many Bi guys are ashamed to admit they are Bi, and/or claim straight for 2 common reasons. One, they don't want to be pestered by other guys looking for Bi play. Some guys can be rude/crude when it comes to seeking Bi play with other guys. Two, they don't want to be excluded by couples with straight guys that will avoid them.

When it comes to keeping Bi preferences a secret, it's probably worth noting that many vanilla people would think less of or even have vanilla friends that would avoid us if they found out we were swingers, so in a way, I suppose this is not much different.

"If someone grabs your cock, and it's not what you agreed to then that has nothing to do with being bi and a whole lot more about respecting boundaries."

Uh, no. In a bar or club, it's sexual assault. Most likely gonna lead to a fight. Why would it receive a pass as a "misunderstanding" in hotel or house party or swingers club?

"The bigger question is what does bi mean? if you like to suck a cock in the heat of passion does that mean you are bi?"

Those are gay tendencies. If you're a man, doing this means, you are performing homosexual or bisexual acts. If you were forced to do it at Band Camp or in prison, it's assault. If you enjoy doing it....... You're gay or bi.

My wife and I had problems at straight parties because she didn’t want to play she wanted to be a voyeur as I pleased the woman

I’m in a straight relationship but she knows I’m HORNEY in all directions

Exactly Curious.. and once again we have seen fights break out at high end clubs when a guy grabbed another guys dick without knowing or asking!

Some Guy even told him it was easy as checking our profile before you did anything but ask ... I know we do check out ones profile if we ask the name while chatting before play if we have time.. ! Common manners and communication along with honesty goes along ways!

You don’t need to always blurt it out but you need to let people know ur likes in your profile.
If they read it and just not focus the title and pictures people would be better informed as to they are messaging

That's not my analogy or based on it. What I am conveying is that we don't expect everyone to post on their profile all of the sex acts they have done or enjoyed. Most of us are realistic to know that in any encounter it's never going to be possible to go through everything you enjoy in swinging. It's not just boundaries, unless your pleasure list is exceedingly small. If someone on here is that specific and you ignore it then yes there's dishonesty afoot. But that's not what is being discussed here. What we're discussing is labels, the need to label ones sexuality. There is nothing in your profile, that I could see, that specifically say you're not interested in anyone contacting you, that has enjoyed some form of MM sex, that has not openly declared themselves to be bi or bi-curious.

The main reason we get from guys who are hiding their sexuality is that people won't play with them if they knew. That's being purposefully deceitful in our book.

To use you analogy, if a couple posted they don't want to be contacted by a guy who has had anal sex with a woman and said guy contacted them anyway and neglected to tell them that he's had anal with a woman would that not be a lie of omission?

I really don't see this as a case of honesty, or dishonesty. The way I look at it is that we all have things that turn us on and things that turn us off. We tend to get to know people a little before we get naked and try to find out what they're comfortable with and what they would like to explore. A sex act between two people can be off putting to many. For example anal sex between a man and a woman, There are many women out there that don't like an won't entertain the idea of anal sex. That's their preference. Do they ask or expect every man they meet to tell them beforehand that they have and enjoyed anal sex with a woman before? Are we expected to list every sex act we enjoy on our profiles? Being bi just opens up more possibilities, it doesn't generally stop any non bi acts from being any less enjoyable.

Yes if your homophobic and the idea of knowing someone has completed a sex act that you find distasteful is a turn off, then know one is forcing you. If someone grabs your cock, and it's not what you agreed to then that has nothing to do with being bi and a whole lot more about respecting boundaries. This is a trust issue and anyone over stepping our boundaries gets shown the door.

The bigger question is what does bi mean? if you like to suck a cock in the heat of passion does that mean you are bi? If you enjoy DP or DVP and part of the pleasure is feeling the other cock interacting with yours, does this make you bi? Maybe we should label less and talk more. Just a thought.

Bruce,

Your problem isn't with bi men. Your problem is with liars.

We have the same problem. It's why we don't even men who's profile says their straight and yet they claim to be bi when they reach out. What else are they lying about - std status? Being married?

Once again.. anyone who doesnt tell the truth well sorry you are dishonest in what you are seeking.. its that simple on a swing site and life !

I have seen profiles I would like to reach out to but they indicate straight with interest in couples and females. Then I see them reaching out to me for discreet MM play. I do respond that your profile does not indicate interest in single bi-males. The usual response is that they prefer to show as straight but like playing with guys once in a while. I will not contact these guys first and normally will not pursue it any further. These are guys who typically will not show up for a meet and greet.

Hello California here

First time with this nice couple, i was 69ing with wife, she on top thinking there was some extra action to my cock..Was not new to bi but very inexperienced, well later she was on top cowgirl, hubby 3 feet from my head, I reached out to his cock and he stepped up to my mouth so I put his cock in my mouth and sucked him, about that time my GF comes back into the bedroom..Had quite a few times playing with this couple. I would suck his cock so good but he would never cum...

Many wives put up with being used as bait so the hubby can suck dick.

When he pays the cost to be the boss, and she grows accustomed to that lifestyle....

Why lose the house, cars, and trips cuz their hubby stepped out of the closet when the kids left the nest?

I've turned down some fine women cuz the hubby wanted to fluff and "get me ready".

BruWayne: I Agree with you on this one!! I've been in the uncomfortable situation with a couple where the guy appeared to be a little to interest in me...
Not my thing!! Just sayin.

Shots fired, shots fired.

Multiple injuries and guys are down.

Gonna need backup right away.

Personally I think bi sexual men are disgusting and I want nothing to do with a bisexual man or his wife especially when she knows he's bi.

That being said this is America to each his own. My problem with bi men is with the secrecy and bullshit of trying to use the wife as bait to try and fool around with straight men. I've had more than a few in the past to offer up the wife on a silver platter just to get to me.

If you're a man and you like your asshole played with, you like playing with other men's asshole you like playing with or sucking cock you you like to be pegged you're gay in my book and that's ok. Just man up about it and put it on your profile. Just be honest and up front if someone turns you down live with it. It's plenty or racist white people that don't want nothing to do with me. I move on.