Question for the Xtra guys

@new - you are now the one being insulting. I never insulted anyone in the gay community. I said it's not my thing. If it's not your thing, does that mean you hate the gay community? Of course not. I know plenty of guys who think anal with a girl is gross. Does he hate girls because a certain sexual act that one person may love grosses him out? Of course not.

I'm not saying the sky isn't a sky. I'm telling you what I feel about how I feel. You don't have to accept it. You don't have to like it. You are free to do that. But, it doesn't change anything about what I said.

Again... if this was a girl, no one would think twice about it.

Also... homophobe means being scared of being around someone who is gay. It doesn't mean someone who doesn't enjoy gay sex or gay relationships. For example... a homophobe has an compulsion to label and put guys who are comfortable with other guys into a box and label them bi or gay so they can make sure not to engage with them by accident.

@North, my apologies for allegedly trying to label you. in all honesty I was just trying to help you out. Figure if you like sucking a cock every now and then, and you list yourself as bi, you would certainly open yourself up to more options. I'm a the sky is the sky, a tree is a tree, a dog is a dog type of person. I realize it's 2020 and you can call a dog a cat, zebra or mountain lion and nobody should say otherwise. I literally have just seen it all and am now completely confused as to what makes sense anymore. I just saw somebody say he is not attracted to guys, more importantly "straight up gay guys". Mentions the thought of them kissing causing him to vomit. Then he goes onto address the homophobes after he says the straight up gay guys make him vomit. But hold on! After all of his insults towards the gay community, he then says he's attracted to their cocks! He's not bi either because straight up gay guys cause him to vomit. Again, my apologies if any offense was taken, truly not my intention.

My wife and I enjoy a threesome or moresome when everyone can be free to give and accept pleasure. I'm not attracted to guys and more importantly, straight up gay guys (or real bi guys, who are attracted to males) weird me out. Not judgement on those types, but seeing two guys kiss or the thought of almost immediately makes me want to vomit. But, in the context of a group thing, I enjoy feeling a hard cock slide in and out of my wife. Or to be fucking her and use both pleasure the other guy.

I don't want body play, I don't want a guy to flirt with me or try to seduce me. Or tell me I'm hot or any of that. So, I don't identify as "bi".

Here's one of the things that people need to understand about this particular application (SLS) or ones like it (SDC). There are technical reasons why I label myself that way in SLS... I don't want to be searched by gay guys. If you are reaching out to us, I want people assuming I'm straight... because... I am. If the person opens up that they like to have MM play, then Okay... I can set my boundaries and that' that. If we specifically want to seek someone out, we'll search that way.

But the fundamental reason why I don't list myself as bi, is I just don't feel like I am. And, ya' know... I don't have to live by anyone else's standards, but mine. To the homophobes.... you need to understand that a guy who enjoys cock play isn't going to surprise jump you. And if they did... you have ever right to punch them! No different than a guy sucker jumping a girl.

BTW... there is a massive double standard in swinging. If a woman marked herself as straight, but in the middle of a FMF threeway, rubbed the other girls clit, no one would be up in arms about it or trying to convince everyone that they are really bi. Girls get it. Just because you gave someone some pleasure, doesn't make you bi or gay. It just means you touched a clit.

@north.... these guys love their labels. You label yourself whatever you want to label yourself. Zero need to justify it.

Just gotta be as blunt as possible, and believe me when I say I mean no offense whatsoever. If a guy puts another guys dick in his mouth or has a desire to put another guys dick in his mouth, said guy isn’t straight. If you do it because the woman there thinks it’s hot, still not straight. It’s all good, different strokes for different folks, but honesty is always the best policy. Sometimes being honest with yourself is the toughest hurdle. We genuinely wish you the best of luck in finding yourself.

By the way.. we did read your profile.. just dont get why you list as straight when you are not.. .. thats the entire point no matter how you try and frame it.

Hi New and Ron...well, I guess I would say I am primarily straight in that it is all about the pussy for me, I just love a beautiful woman. Over time, I have found that I have been most fortunate to be invited into bedrooms by couples, and the focus has always been the lady and I prefer it that way. I guess the few times I have enjoyed a cock it has been where that turned the lady on...and the thought of a woman full of her loving husband's cum to simply be delirious as it has always been associated with enjoying that lovely Mrs...so, while cocks have been a recent interest, it really is all about the lady. I do not think I would have an interest in just the husband at this time. Perhaps over time and familiarity. And of course, bi-play is not a deal breaker by any means...I love 1 on 1 play with a woman just as much, married, preferably, as it's less complicated, and with single gals it's just not as frequent as single gals are harder to find in the LS and the vanilla world offers even fewer opps as well. If that makes sense... and I do share similar thoughts on my profile, if you read it, which it seems you haven't. I've also met straight couples where the hubby admits to being bi-playful, etc. so it's not all cut and dry...everyone is different. Nice to meet you all...

@North, going by your comment it looks like you’re about as straight as an S. I’m not judging you being bisexual, just curious as to why you don’t own it?

Well, as many have said here, I always feel fortunate to be included and just love a fun couple that is open-minded and honest about what they want...another cock for her, maybe an extra cock for him to enjoy with her, whatever...myself, I do not like the taste of latex, so I have no issue whatsoever with hubby going el natural, as he is obviously leaving me something to enjoy as I love creampies and sloppy seconds...I have no issue with condoms, I just prefer he goes first. ;) Hopefully, he'll allow me to clean her juices off of him, too.

Well said Steve

There are lots of ways the rules are different for her husband because he’s her primary. That’s natural and to be expected. It hadn’t occurred to me to dislike different rules, since my relationship to her is different from his.

In my encounters, MANY husbands enjoy sloppy seconds, thirds, fourths, etc. :-)

If hubby cums, pulls out and go get something to drink and I still have a HARD n READY one.. I just simply keep going.. as long as she is ok with it.. Every couple have THEIR THING so gotta ensure she is OK with him being out of her and no longer apart of the MMF.

Hubby going RAW DAWG is a given and shouldnt be questioned... THAT IS HIS Wife lol

Some Husbands Love sloppy seconds :)

Personally, I don't have an issue with hubby being natural and me as a third having to wear a condom. Makes sense - the 3rd is fortunate to be invited as a guest into the relationship of a couple. So I think that boundary needs to be respected, and I'm very good with that. Just being part of a trio is already a turn-on...

In my experience, most of the time, it's the couple that suggests/requires/desires me to provide the 'mess / natural lube / creampie for the couple to enjoy. The more I give, the better they like it.

Before the LS, I had no idea sloppy seconds / thirds / fourths were in such demand.

interesting i always wondered how the single guys felt if they got "sloppy seconds". i person love them, but thats me :)

“do you like his cock better than mine”... get the fuck out"

It is pretty obvious that you haven't had many experiences and that at least one of them went poorly. With many couples it is exactly the point to find something bigger or better than the husband. You seem to have basic courtesy down which is essential. However, from what you typed it may seem like you could be trying a little too hard.

As a third I have always felt that I was a guest and played within the couple's rules. It has always been my rule to play safe until a level of trust is built. It has never effected me if he cums first as I'm not shy or bothered with sloppy seconds.

“Xtra guys” please don’t Come into the forums acting like a know-it-all. certainly don’t add a desperate, pushover twist to it. It’s a turn off.

~rabbit~

I can say I’ve been successful at meeting couples. First you must obey all rules, some couples are male dominant and sometimes female dominant, you have to figure out. The dominant partner is the person keeping in touch with you most of the time, some times the male, some times the female. They always tell you the rules before meeting and you do never question them, period, if you don’t like their rules, simply stay away from them. Some may include

1 if he comes first you might not, be grateful and always show respect.
2 wear protection if you’re told, if one breaks and she doesn’t realize, say it.., she knows.
3 if male is dominant, don’t make a move where he’s outside the room ej bathroom or kitchen. Stay where you are!
4 be courteous... to the non dominant side.
5 if you’re bigger don’t point it out! She’s married to him, not you.
6 prior meeting, give them a surprise, a case of beer of their preference, a bottle of good wine, a box of cigars. You might get lucky... (a bag of weed if you smoke it and they too, don’t be cheap).
7 if you meet in a hotel, pay for it, some times thing go sour, so it’s your ground. I’d they’re not feeling it, they will leave rather than asking you to... worth the $150.
8 if he comes first and he let you finish with her... you got keepers, don’t fuck it up by being extra aggressive. He knows her better than you do.
9 don’t message lady if you have her number... you might turn her off.

1. If she feels uncomfortable or try to excuse herself, get the fuck out! If they’re start arguing, get the fuck out! If he shows any song of jealousy get the fuck out ej he says “do you like his cock better than mine”... get the fuck out.

Those are some tips I would give to a single man... I’m no expert, but that’s on my experience.

Depends on the cpl and how comfortable they are with you.. as far as hubby not wearing and you having to.. deal with it bud and smile while your at it. Lucky enough to be there and you have no right to feel upset in anyway. If you do swinging not for you. They are the couple you must abide by their rules at all times and show proper respect and gratitude at being included

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